Swoops for shadow run, Vectored thrust vehicles for everyone. Options

[xizor]

This is something that i thought would be neat to see in shadowrun. (scooped from star wars originaly, i think...)

Get all the speed of a racing motorcycle, without having to wait for the red lights.8)

Mark 1 Dust Devil

start with a medium sized vector thust drone (same aproximate size as a motorcycle)
get a jet engine
add manual contols (-2 CF, -10 load, 50 dp)
a seat motorcycle seat (which isint listed, so i used the stats for a bucket seat, -6 CF, -100 load, 0 DP)
increased CF to compensate for controls and seat (+7 CF, 35 DP)
increased load capacity (+100 load, -10 DP)

and to make it excyting to fly,
improved acceleration (+5 accel, +125 DP)
increased speed (+100 speed, +200 DP)

the end stats look like this (as long as i havent made any mistakes)

Mark 1 Dust Devil
(medium sized vectored thrust drone)

Body 2
CF 0
Handling 4
Armor 0
Autonav -
Pilot 1
Sensor 1
Seating 1(m)
Entry Points -
Load 0 kg
Speed 200
Acceleration 13
Sig 6
Fuel 120 liters
Economy .6 km/liter

features and notes
VTOL L/T profile
NOE fight beneath 20 m
flight celing 1500 m

Street Index 1
Availibility 2/24

cost 31,560:nuyen:

so... what do you people think?

[ShadowDragon8685]

I think oh-my-sweet-mother-of-mercy-YES!

Swoop bikes just became the new pocket-rocket. And at that price, they're goddamned dirt cheap. Hell, it's hard to get Cyberware, or even a few months of good living, for less than that.

Go-gangers eat your hearts out. Mwahahahaah.

I think I have to try and talk my DM into that. As soon as I can get a Shadowrun game...

[Grinder]

That's cool :)

[nick012000]

I'll point out here that that thing is about twice as expensive as a normal motorcycle, and one third more expensive than most cars.

[eidolon]

Pretty nifty, but if I were to introduce this in my game, the SI and avail would be much higher. You'd also have to start grinding out fluff for it, like air traffic (if people were zipping around on these, they'd have to be regulated, etc.).

Mucho cool. Thanks for posting it.

[nick012000]

There already is. It's called "Gridguide". ;)

[xizor]

these, however, are not connected to the grid.
they would fall under air traffic control.

also, a note about the cost, yes this is an expensive toy, but if you factor in a custom built quality factor, the price drops to 21,040 :nuyen: which is very comparable to other vehicles. perticularly when you look at the time it can save you in traffic by adding another dimention to move in. :grinbig:

yea the availibility and street index are a bit wacked, but thats what R3 says they should be.

[Calvin Hobbes]

There's also the fact that it's getting about 70 klicks before the fuel runs out.

[xizor]

heres the Dust Devil Mark II
(medium sized vectored thrust drone)

[Fluff]The first revision of the original Dust Devil personal aerial vehical design.
This is a production model which is designed to be sold to a few lucky consumers who lack a fear of hights and have an excelent medical coverage.

The design changes were realtivly minor, with improved fuel economy and a much expanded fuel tank, this vehical is bound to make its mark on our skyscapes and roadways.

Designed and built by the up and coming Manticor Indutrys, based out of Victoria,Tsimshian.

Comercial production is expected to start later this year.[/Fluff]

Changes from the mark I
Increased CF by +4, 20DP
Improved Economy by 40%, 40 DP
expanded fuel tanks by 200L, -4CF, 20 DP
Accel reduced by 3, -75 DP

Dust Devil Mark II
(medium sized vectored thrust drone)

Body 2
CF 0
Handling 4
Armor 0
Autonav -
Pilot 1
Sensor 1
Seating 1(m)
Entry Points -
Load 0 kg
Speed 200
Acceleration 10
Sig 6
Fuel 320 liters
Economy .84 km/liter

features and notes
VTOL L/T profile
NOE fight beneath 20 m
flight celing 1500 m

Street Index 1
Availibility 2/24

cost 31,860:nuyen:

edit : thanks Trax for the location of Victoia BC

[Trax]

Victoria, BC is now within the Tsimshian Nation I think.

[Voran]

I think it'd be possible to pull hovercycle type builds from RIFTS to suit the purpose of swoops too.

[Dranem]

This looks wiz, and if a Rigger could build their own, it would probably run smooth too... (now looks forward to vehicle build rules for SR4)

Problems I see:
- Legality: As this would now be considered an air vehicle, you'd have to have a pilots license to legally use it as well as permits to use it in the air.
- Air time: as many locations have restricted air space, you'd have to get permission from local air traffic control towers to get above 3 m off the ground.
- Fuel Capacity: VTOL craft use expensive jet fuel and you're tank's capacity is limmited, you can't just fuel up at the local gas station with this baby.

[nick012000]

Legality: Considered an ultralight aircraft. No license needed to pilot it.
Air time: Dude, take a look at all of the drones floating around shadowrun. The things are bloody everywhere. This thing can just use the same system as them.
Fuel economy: So? I doubt this thing would cost much more than an SUV in fuel costs...

[bustedkarma]

There is a KILLER chase scene in The Island (Ewan McGregor and Scarlet Johansen) with some vectored thrust bikes.

They all had a gunners chair with an M-249 on them. Very cool concept.

[Backgammon]

We had a campaing a while back set in Hong Kong. We figured it would look a little like The 5th Element, flying cabs and all. So yeah, I took a drone vector thrust engine and stuck a car chassis on it and voila - affordable flying cabs for the corporate elite :)

[eidolon]

[John Campbell]

[Crusher Bob]

Considering that even the 'improved fuel efficiency' version only gets ~2 MPG and probably uses avaiation fuel and not regular gasoline, 'fuel hog' does not even begin to cover it.

[eidolon]

Ranges have always seemed a bit wonky for some of the premade vehicles though. I haven't ever tried comparing them to RL vehicles to get a feel for realism before though. Maybe I'll do that sometime.

It seems that I remember the Stallion having a ridiculously short range for a medium chopper. (I could be thinking of something else though.)

[Dranem]

[ShadowDragon8685]

Guys... Stop picking it apart here.


This is Shadowrun here. We have huge hulking trolls carting around light anti-tank rifles and firing them from the hip, cybersammies that can go hand-to-hand with a corporate made gladiator drone and win, and mages that can can do shit that I don't wanna think about.

Is a swoop bike really that impossible to believe?

[Pendaric]

No, swoops are an interesting oddity that would be cool to see as an oddity and freezing cold ride. The legality of flying a city in one though would be murder for the pilot, possiably literaly. Great run around for a die hard, hard core thunder bird pilot though. Or for a little impromtu chase scene action. I think it can be agreed these are 'cool' and to cool to generally legal.
Play things for the rich and well connected and bad little shadow runners.

[Lindt]

It would be the sorta thing a T-bird jockey would have stuffed in the truck for when he just needs to pop off for a pint and dosent want to loose his parking space.

[ShadowDragon8685]

I think it's really more along the lines of "Reasons to take Vector-Thrust Aircraft at chargen that don't involve theft after the game has commenced."


Really. It's literally a useless skill otherwise. This bike would at least give the players some reason to take Vector-Thrust Aircraft.


Actually, that's not a bad idea. Obviously, personal VTAs should be more expensive than regular vehicles, but a full line of vector-thrust civilian vehicles could change the theme of Shadowru, not nessessarily for the worse.

Instead of that bike wars tournament that's basically urban brawl on motorcycles, you could have the Crimson Skies airbike tournament. (Copyright infringement? Nope; just product placement. :) )

[Herald of Verjig...]

So, how much for that aircar that's on the Aztlan cover?