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post Apr 3 2006, 08:32 PM
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Has anyone done any fan sourcebooks concerning RL corps in the 2070s?

In my campaign, Google is now a Subsidiary of Horizon, doing Funky AR stuff for free in exchange for targeted Horizon Ads (Google Earth has Live feeds now :P)

Anyone else have any idea on what corps of today actually survived to 2070, let alone what they're like now?

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post Apr 3 2006, 08:49 PM
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Some of them are actual Canon entities. Federated Boeing for example is basicly the good old lazy B. Others are referenced as being parts of the Megas, Corporate Shadowfiles and Corporate Download both contain information. Smaller companies can probably be safely incorporated however you need for your game. Again corporated Download and Corporate Shadowfiles reference what sectors each of the Megas have their strengths in. For examle Aztechnology is the leader in foodstuffs, they own the Stuffer Shack chain and numerous food companies. In all likelihood they probably own a chain of more upscale supermarkets, though that is not Canon (because how many Shadowrunners shop at the local market and have time to make a home cooked meal?) you could insert your favorite chain (Kroeger, Whole Foods, Albertsons, Safeway, etc.) in that role as a subsidiary. Of course there are lots of smaller local, regional, national, and international non extraterritorial companies out there too, and these small guys can make interesting players in your world.
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post Apr 4 2006, 12:20 AM
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AZT is supposed to own Carrefour's (a supermarket conglomerate over in the EU and in China). Now that I've finally got an in-person group to run, I'm having them own Wal-Mart. Ares owns Kroger.

The players are, well, having fun with this :)
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post Apr 4 2006, 12:35 AM
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funny
Most professional criminals DO have time to cook for themselves
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post Apr 4 2006, 01:04 AM
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Microsoft renamed itself Microdeck following the first Matrix crash, and became a peripheral company, though I wouldn't be surprised if that was about to change. Afterall, MS invented the tactics the megacorps use today. I think it's time for them to show them that the original is still the best. ;)

Sure, it'll never be a AAA, but it could quite possibly become a AA.
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post Apr 4 2006, 01:09 AM
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QUOTE ( stevebugge)
because how many Shadowrunners shop at the local market and have time to make a home cooked meal?


I dispute that. Most runners only work one weak every month. Why not cook good food.

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post Apr 4 2006, 01:14 AM
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In an incomming game where the runers travel unto the 'Green Southern Lands', I am thinking about including local corporations as A, maybe some AA. Like that infamous Globo, the brazilian version of Fox.

If I remember well, Embraer, the local big planes makers who clashed with our Bombardier still exist as a part of Aztechnologies and had to move out (A guy on a Toronto Shadows setting website used Bombardier and another also of our local jewels, thought i don't know if it's canon).
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post Apr 4 2006, 04:52 AM
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In an incomming game where the runers travel unto the 'Green Southern Lands', I am thinking about including local corporations as A, maybe some AA. Like that infamous Globo, the brazilian version of Fox.


You mean GloboTrid. It has already appeared in State of the Art: 2064, in some Amazonian-related stuff. 8)
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post Apr 4 2006, 01:20 PM
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Thank you for the info, man. I will look at this.

BTW, are they as controversial in the future as it is now? :D
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post Apr 4 2006, 01:23 PM
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QUOTE (Edward)
...one weak...

One weak what?
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post Apr 4 2006, 08:20 PM
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A bunch of today's corps around in some form or another...look at some of the equipment and vehicle names. I expect most of the ones that still have a 'presence' have been folded into one mega's portfolio or another though. I remember Microdek being mentioned (IIRC Gates III was in charge). Wasn't Apple mentioned in the CalFree sourcebook?
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post Apr 4 2006, 08:32 PM
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Yes. It's owned by Ares.

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Afterall, MS invented the tactics the megacorps use today. I think it's time for them to show them that the original is still the best. ;)

HAHAHA


Oooookay...
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post Apr 4 2006, 09:14 PM
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Since we speak of it...

Anyone know the fates in Shadowrun of the grand ol' videogames corporations - Nintendo, Sony, Sega, the holder of Atari's things? I have the idea of a run around 'electronical archeology' of Pre-Crash codding and games in the future (maybe linked to the Amazonia one). Any official hints? :)
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post Apr 4 2006, 09:31 PM
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QUOTE (The ubbergeek)
Since we speak of it...

Anyone know the fates in Shadowrun of the grand ol' videogames corporations - Nintendo, Sony, Sega, the holder of Atari's things? I have the idea of a run around 'electronical archeology' of Pre-Crash codding and games in the future (maybe linked to the Amazonia one). Any official hints? :)

Lots of those are probably swallowed up by Mitsuhama and Reraku, though you could easily have them operated as subsidiaries retaining the familiar names. I think the new SR4 "On the Run" adventure deals a bit with legacyware, so I think that's viable as a plot point. Besides if you look at the number of video games out today that are pretyy much repacks of older games, it's likely that the industry is looking for "lost" games to repack.
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post Apr 4 2006, 09:36 PM
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Yeah, albeit I was thinking about some weirdo futuristic tech geek and mad collectionor. ^^ But all good.
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post Apr 5 2006, 05:27 PM
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QUOTE (The ubbergeek)
the holder of Atari's things?

That's Infogrames.

As as far as I know, despite being holder of the Atari brand it's no way as big as Nintendo or Sega.
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post Apr 5 2006, 07:07 PM
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Infogrames is sort of mid-sized in the scheme of game publishing companies and is itself in big financial trouble lately. The big players in gaming right now are Microsoft, Nintendo, Sony, and Electronic Arts. Sega lost a lot of ground but still makes games and is now owned by Sega Sammy Holdings, a company that brought together Sega's assets with a Japanese pachinko parlor company.

By 2070, I imagine most of the original gaming assets have been bought and absorbed into newer companies (much like Atari was bought by Infogrames). We do know that Microsoft still sorta exists as MicroDeck, but they are a much paler version of the old MS and likely don't do a whole lot in the gaming business anymore. Sony still exists too and likely still controls its gaming assets.

In my games, I had Sega taken over by MCT and now used primarily as a front for electronic gambling (especially Yakuza-run operations in Japan). I had Nintendo bought out by a young Inazo Aneki in his early acquisition days and it still remains part of Renraku and part of the gaming biz. I haven't given much thought to EA's fate before now, but they make a great candidate for absorption into Horizon.
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post Apr 5 2006, 07:31 PM
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I think Blizzard must be mentioned... i don't know what their profit is, but with literally millions of gamers paying a monthly fee, the turnover must be really big, especially compared to other computer gaming companies.
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post Apr 5 2006, 07:43 PM
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Blizzard is a studio and doesn't do its own publishing. Vivendi Universal Games publishes Blizzard's games, and they are a mid-sized publisher based in Los Angeles, which itself is a 99%-owned subsidiary in the big France-based Vivendi Universal S.A. conglomerate. The success of World of Warcraft made Vivendi pretty much the only gaming publisher to post a profit this year, but it's still small compared to the other companies I posted.

What becomes of Vivendi in SR is anyone's guess. Possibly Lofwyr snatched them up, maybe they formed a foundation of what is now Hermes Eurocom, or maybe they just fell apart in the Crash. As for Blizzard, it's equally fuzzy. Developer/Publisher relationships can change; there's no saying Vivendi will still be publishing Blizzard's games five years from now, no less decades in the future.
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post Apr 5 2006, 07:47 PM
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I stand corrected.

I doubt they will go down before the first Matrix crash ;).
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post Apr 5 2006, 07:52 PM
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And actually, I have to correct myself here. :P

Blizzard isn't just having its games published by Vivendi, it's actually a subsidiary of Vivendi. So the developer/publisher relationship won't change unless Vivendi sells them.

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In 1994, the company briefly changed its name to Chaos Studios, before finally settling on Blizzard Entertainment after it was discovered that another company with the Chaos name already existed. That same year, they were acquired by distributor Davidson & Associates for under $10 million. Shortly thereafter, Blizzard shipped their breakthrough hit Warcraft.

Blizzard has changed hands several times since then: Davidson was acquired by a timeshare company called CUC International in 1996; CUC then merged with a hotel, real-estate, and car-rental franchiser called HFS Corporation to form Cendant Software, in 1997. In 1998 it became apparent that CUC had engaged in accounting fraud for years before the merger; Cendant's stock lost 80% of its value over the next six months in the ensuing widely discussed accounting scandal. The company sold its consumer software operations, including Blizzard, to French publisher Havas in 1998, the same year Havas was purchased by Vivendi. Blizzard is now part of the VU Games group of Vivendi Universal.
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post Apr 5 2006, 08:34 PM
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French Company Vivendi, perhaps in the holdings of a certain France based brother and rival of Lofwyr.........
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post Apr 6 2006, 04:35 PM
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QUOTE (JongWK)
In an incomming game where the runers travel unto the 'Green Southern Lands', I am thinking about including local corporations as A, maybe some AA. Like that infamous Globo, the brazilian version of Fox.


Globo, a version of Fox? I donīt know Fox enough to say that, but Globo is powerful enough to elect and drop presidents at the tip of a hat. They are THE original open TV definition here in Amaz... I mean, Brazil.

Of course, they have a great staff, produce excellent news and entertainment shows, span over the WHOLE country, and virtually every big city (including capitals) has one of their franchised office. Is Fox like that? I REALLY donīt know.

Some of my SR games are set in Braz... Amazonia, so I use them all the time for news references, but didnīt new that Globo Trid bit (mostly because until recently - when I bought 4th ed., I only played 2nd edition).
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post Apr 6 2006, 07:27 PM
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Fox is very big and influencal also, and known (infamous) for it's decidedly rightist, neocon bias. I remember hearing similar vibes from Globo, who blasted Lula. But you know more than me on that...
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Ares Global Entertainment, the third most important AAA holdings in the media sector (after Horizon and MCT), is headquartered in Paris, France. The place probably weights a little bit more in the videogame industry than in the TV/Trid, music (and simsense I guess). I can perfectly imagine Ares marketing "the only Knight Errant-sanctionned FPS".

Also, the three major channels in SR are CBC, NBS and ABS (got the pattern ?), respectively owned by MCT, Ares and S-K. IRL, NBC entered a partnership with Vivendi to refund the TV/movie branch, taking a 20% stake.
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