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> Diary Of A Madman’s Lab Rat, Emo's campaign from a player's POV
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post Apr 13 2006, 07:22 PM
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Check out the Master Shake thread. And it's not like it's his first performance either.
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post Apr 13 2006, 07:23 PM
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I think my favorite thing about Emo is that I have a friend from college who is/was JUST like him.
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James McMurray
post Apr 13 2006, 07:32 PM
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So resurrecting a thread that people don't like is grounds for being booted? I read the later pages (post revival) and I've seen other folks toss insults back and forth with no problems. It's also not like it's the first time he's been attacked (sometimes with reason, sometimes without). When you get assaulted you tend to assault back.
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post Apr 13 2006, 07:35 PM
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it isn't that he ressurrected the thread. It was the fact that he spammed that thread with a series of meaningless attention-getting posts after he ressurrected it.
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post Apr 13 2006, 07:37 PM
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Ah, because nothing else on DS is meaningless and attention getting? ;)
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post Apr 13 2006, 07:41 PM
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*shrug* A week off from a forum is more of a "dude, chill" than a "you are a horrible person and we hate you." It's gonna be kind of quiet around here for a week, tho :P
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post Apr 13 2006, 07:43 PM
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But read the last few posts he did, with the multiple posts over and over. If that's not spamming in combination with resurrecting the dead thread that had little to do with anything in regards to anything within the thread itself other than to say it's been revived, threadomancy or somesuch. Really, it doesn't have to be one particular thing but a combination that combined that can 'break the camel's back' so to speak.

Sure some of us might once in a while throw a meaningless attention getting post, but we don't try to exacerbate the situation by piling it on. And most of us do use the 'edit' command...

edit: That too, the week off was basically saying, chill out dude. This is the forums, take it easy and simmer down. ya hear?
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post Apr 13 2006, 07:45 PM
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Emo has to learn the limits, so the secret plan to turn him into a RAW abiding mindless rules lawyer within 6 months can succeed.
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post Apr 13 2006, 07:58 PM
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I thought that's what all the subliminals I keep catching during page loads were for?
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post Apr 13 2006, 07:59 PM
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QUOTE (BlackHat)
QUOTE (James McMurray @ Apr 13 2006, 01:28 PM)
He got booted for a week. I'm not sure why, since I've seen others do a lot worse than what he did, but I probably don't have the whole story.

Possibly because FanGirl said he was distributing a pdf of the SR4 rules? ;-) I noticed that on page 1 and thought to myself that we should warn them that dumpshock doesn't take kindly to self-proclaimed pirates. ;-)

Oh crap, now I feel bad. . . . It's not like he was handing out copies on the street, he just gave it to the people in the campaign. Is that so wrong?
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post Apr 13 2006, 08:04 PM
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*shrug* Technically, it's copyright violation. It doesn't seem likely that it's the thing he got suspended for, though.
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James McMurray
post Apr 13 2006, 08:06 PM
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Yep, it's illegal. But with any luck you'll like the game enough to go buy a hardback copy. :)
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post Apr 13 2006, 08:08 PM
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QUOTE (FanGirl)
QUOTE (BlackHat @ Apr 13 2006, 02:15 PM)
QUOTE (James McMurray @ Apr 13 2006, 01:28 PM)
He got booted for a week. I'm not sure why, since I've seen others do a lot worse than what he did, but I probably don't have the whole story.

Possibly because FanGirl said he was distributing a pdf of the SR4 rules? ;-) I noticed that on page 1 and thought to myself that we should warn them that dumpshock doesn't take kindly to self-proclaimed pirates. ;-)

Oh crap, now I feel bad. . . . It's not like he was handing out copies on the street, he just gave it to the people in the campaign. Is that so wrong?

Depends on who you ask. I imagine FanPro or whoever is financing SR nowadays is barely getting by... its not exactly the most popular of games...

If that company could either have all of the players in every group pay them for the book, or just have one... I know which one THEY'd prefer... and the law would be on their side.

That said, I would be surprised if the majority of hte people on Dumpshock didn't (at one time or another) illegally download a copy of the core rules.

Basically, its just like the whole downloading music thing. Everyone knows that people are doing it... just don't admit to doing it. :-D

I don't think Dumpshock is an official site or anything, but its probably the most official Shadowrun forum around and I still don't think they want to be known as a haven for lawbreakers. ;-)
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post Apr 13 2006, 08:12 PM
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Also, as soon as people start condoning the free distribution of RPGs, the sooner they'll all start listening to devil music and playing violent videogames!!!!

Acutally, I would imagine that freely giving out the SR4 core rules could only HELP revive Shadowrun as a roleplaying game/system... the idea there being that if more people play it and like it, they might be willing to ACTUALLY pay for good splat-books... Problem being that there are none at the moment (cept some chinsy adventure and maybe a GM screen) and at the rate these books are coming out, they wouldn't be able to pay their employees for years. :-)

I do like WotC's "OpenGaming SRD" model for this reason... I am not equally thrilled about the d20 system.
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post Apr 13 2006, 08:48 PM
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QUOTE (BlackHat)
Possibly because FanGirl said he was distributing a pdf of the SR4 rules? ;-) I noticed that on page 1 and thought to myself that we should warn them that dumpshock doesn't take kindly to self-proclaimed pirates. ;-)

I had not noticed that post at the time, and therefore it didn't play into the suspension at all, which was purely for pointlessly resurrecting the Master Shake thread and then repeatedly posting into it pointlessly [or posting in it to "get the thread closed" -- but since the thread hadn't been posted to in over a year anyway, that logic does not fly.] Deliberately derailing threads can be cause for suspension, and coming so quickly on the heels of his second attempt at starting an off topic flame thread in the SR4 forum, I figured he could use some time off.

FanGirl: Since people who work for and freelance for FanPro [including myself] frequent these forums we prefer that you not talk about "borrowing" ebooks. If you enjoy the game, please consider buying your own copy of the book or ebook.

BlackHat: The RPG industry is pretty tough right now, but SR4 is doing damned well. :-)
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post Apr 13 2006, 08:50 PM
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The decision to make the SR3 Quickstart rules available for free as a PDF was a good marketing decision by Fanpro. Hopefully there is a similar product/concept in the works for SR4.
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post Apr 13 2006, 11:45 PM
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FanGirl - I'd recommend getting the actual book. In my group, I am currently the only one with an actual book. Even my GM is working off of a .pdf. On average, they ask to use my book (instead of whatever they printed out) at least 2-3 times per game, more often if we're doing something new/unusual.

It's just easier to flip through (even if the diehards here all agree it's not optimally organized). Me, in my über-geeky excitement over finally playing SR again (plus, I had all these flags lying around from work) flagged sections of the book (Combat, Magic, Programs, etc), so my GM loves to steal my book to look stuff up quickly.... :cyber:
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post Apr 13 2006, 11:53 PM
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Most groups of casual gamers only have one core book, in my experience. By sharing ebooks, the hope is in spreading SR love, and when that happens more books are always sold.
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post Apr 13 2006, 11:58 PM
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I've never played with a group of people that liked a game and only had a single book available (at least not since high school).
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post Apr 14 2006, 12:04 AM
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QUOTE (James McMurray)
I've never played with a group of people that liked a game and only had a single book available (at least not since high school).

How many times do you have to play before you decide you like it? At least once, right? In my experience, college students have less cash than high school, and less books as well.
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post Apr 14 2006, 12:18 AM
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Right, which is why I said "liked a game." If we don't like it, we don't play it, so nobody buys one.

I had a lot more money for gaming supplies while in college, but was also less of a shoplifter, so my actual gaming supplies dwindled rather than grew.
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post Apr 14 2006, 03:26 AM
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I bought the book! My soul is now cleansed!
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post Apr 14 2006, 05:03 AM
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QUOTE (nick012000 @ Apr 13 2006, 09:58 AM)
What sort of encoding scheme is that, fisty?

that would be "gibberish"

oh , and my two cents: get books. I was the only one that had a book for the longest time and it was damn annoying. And besides that, I'm not a fan of pdf's as opposed to books. If I get a bok on pdf that I can no longer find in print, I'd rather print it. I don't get that new book smell, but at least I can read it on the couch instead of the damn computer "chair" (quotations because the chair is damn broke. not just broke, but damn broke).

This post has been edited by fistandantilus3.0: Apr 14 2006, 05:11 AM
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post Apr 14 2006, 05:08 AM
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Ah gibberish. The one true unbreakable code.
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post Apr 14 2006, 05:13 AM
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I don't think you can say "I bought [SR4]" and "my soul is cleansed" in the same lifetime.

At least, not with a straight face.

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