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Hoppelhäschen 5000  Group: Members Posts: 5,807 Joined: 3-January 04 Member No.: 5,951  |
You would guess? That's what fake permits are for. ;) |
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Apr 10 2006, 07:23 PM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
lesser screwup. i was thinking licence and wrote id :P
btw, about the only cyberware (didnt check limbs or bioware) that i can find with F availability are stuff like hot sim, bone lacing (say what? i tought atleast the plastic one would be a medical implant for old ladys and similar), the cranial bombs and implants that allow you to pretend to be another person (retinal duplication, voice modulation with alternate pattern. should be hard to detect with a cyberware scanner i think). |
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Apr 10 2006, 07:33 PM
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Hoppelhäschen 5000 Group: Members Posts: 5,807 Joined: 3-January 04 Member No.: 5,951 |
Especially because the latter implants are just upgrades to perfectly legal versions...
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Apr 10 2006, 08:08 PM
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Grand Master of Run-Fu Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,840 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Tir Tairngire Member No.: 178 |
There's only one advantage to cybereyes that I can tell: magicians can cast through them. No books handy, but apparently the old LOS rules still apply for spell targeting. Glasses are easy to circumvent, but contacts make things more difficult; and in either case, you lose your vision mods while you're casting. With cyber, however, you keep all your vision mods and can still cast freely.
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Apr 10 2006, 08:13 PM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
hmm, never tought about that...
makes things interesting... |
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Apr 10 2006, 08:30 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,925 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 948 |
Cybereyes and ears have multiple uses. You can record everything you see live and send it to your teammates. You can also record any conversation you are having and listen through it later.
Storage space. The larger version of cybereyes can contain a vast array of goodies that would cost a lot more essence unless you had the eyespace. Just the recording and imagelink that is included is 0,2 essence. |
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Apr 10 2006, 08:42 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 588 Joined: 27-February 06 Member No.: 8,316 |
I can't cast spells through the glasses or contacts I wear? Does that mean I can't cast through glass wondows too?
Actually the glasses and lenses work just fine for mages to cast through since they are overwriting on your feild of vision instead of replacing it. |
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Apr 10 2006, 08:46 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,430 Joined: 10-January 05 From: Fort Worth, Texas Member No.: 6,957 |
You can cast through glasses, but you can't cast through electronic vision enhancers. If those "glasses" are actually goggles that enhance vision through electronic means, you can't use magic through them.
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Apr 10 2006, 08:48 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,150 Joined: 19-December 05 From: Rhein-Ruhr Megaplex Member No.: 8,081 |
True, if your glasses grants lowlight vision, it's an electronical enhancement, so you won't get lowlight modifiers ;).
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Apr 10 2006, 09:04 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,754 Joined: 9-July 04 From: Modesto, CA Member No.: 6,465 |
I'd guess the "glasses" would be some sort of electronic display even with the low-light turned off so you couldn't cast through them period. Unless there is some provision that says otherwise. |
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Apr 10 2006, 09:10 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,150 Joined: 19-December 05 From: Rhein-Ruhr Megaplex Member No.: 8,081 |
I don't think there is. But i am basically a nice guy.
When i think about it, no vision enhancement in glasses/lenses/whatever would work in my shadowrun for mages, so perhaps i am not that nice after all :grr: . Ok. maybe the optical binoculars on a bright day. |
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Apr 10 2006, 09:14 PM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
it realy depends on how they are designed.
as mirrorshades? (or basicly small lcd screens with a mirrored finish on their back) or as transparent sheets of plastic or glass with a kind of lcd tech in the center that have the ability to turn on and off its transparency? as in, can light pass thru the display? if it can then i would allow a person to cast using them, but would not get any modifiers from low light, termographic and similar. |
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Apr 10 2006, 09:39 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,405 Joined: 23-February 04 From: Honolulu, HI Member No.: 6,099 |
Another good part was when you thought Keanu got brain fried and died! But then they ruined it. |
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Apr 10 2006, 09:49 PM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
heh, tastes vary...
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Apr 10 2006, 10:13 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 7,089 Joined: 4-October 05 Member No.: 7,813 |
i always presumed that goggles/glasses/whatever with an image link built into them used the image link to relay the information on them. ie, the screen is inside your eye, and would have to be at least reasonably translucent on account of it's not physically there :P
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Apr 10 2006, 10:25 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,754 Joined: 9-July 04 From: Modesto, CA Member No.: 6,465 |
That movie somewhat dates itself when they talk about Gigabytes in terms of storage. I realized how smart SR1-3 was at using a generic storage term and more smartly in SR4 of removing the need to concern yourself with it. |
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Apr 10 2006, 10:48 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,405 Joined: 23-February 04 From: Honolulu, HI Member No.: 6,099 |
You can give the illusion of being harmless with implants. You could walk into a place with external gear on, 'surrender' it if asked, yet still have all the same effects due to your implants.
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Apr 11 2006, 01:49 AM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
heh, i think some people have more storage in their home computers these days then the ST:TNG enterprise had in its computer ;) |
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Apr 11 2006, 03:17 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 7,089 Joined: 4-October 05 Member No.: 7,813 |
actually, i'm pretty sure star trek uses a completely fictional prefix for everything (or rather, it's a real prefix... it just has no current, specific meaning, like mega, micro, deci, deca, hecta, etc. do).
thus, their warp core generates <prefix>watts in power or whatever, but all the prefix means (loosely translated, i am told) is "many" or something like that. |
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Apr 11 2006, 02:00 PM
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Genuine Artificial Intelligence Group: Members Posts: 4,019 Joined: 12-June 03 Member No.: 4,715 |
Hojilliwatts?
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Apr 11 2006, 02:17 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,283 Joined: 17-May 05 Member No.: 7,398 |
No, there is a book out there that gives real units for Star Trek ships. They get their asses handed to them by Star Wars ships, by orders of magnitude (a 20-year-old troop carrier blows the Enterprise-D to pieces, after taking their entire load of photon torpedos simultaneously).
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Apr 11 2006, 02:29 PM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
like the creator of babylon 5 said about the starfury, it have a speed of plot...
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Apr 11 2006, 06:11 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,651 Joined: 23-September 05 From: Marietta, GA Member No.: 7,773 |
Google has revealed unto me the following from the dubiously-named http://www.starfleetjedi.net/m5.html.
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Apr 11 2006, 06:35 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,754 Joined: 9-July 04 From: Modesto, CA Member No.: 6,465 |
Bah, they've mired themselves in reality or at least our 21st century view of what it might be like. Physicist Michio Kaku has written several books talking about certain technical milestones we'd have to surpass to generate the amounts of energies to achieve certain physics wonders. Current times are marked as "Type 0" and IIRC, Star Trek like tech is ranked "Type 4" where basically you'd "be able to harness the power of a galaxy" if I am not mistaken. Check out Hyperspace by Michio Kaku |
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Apr 11 2006, 08:53 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,283 Joined: 17-May 05 Member No.: 7,398 |
Maybe so, but canon Star Trek has never been known to be all that accurate. ;)
http://www.stardestroyer.net/Empire/ |
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