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 May 10 2006, 07:08 AM
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Target  Group: Members Posts: 68 Joined: 19-April 06 From: Rio Rancho, NM Member No.: 8,484  |
Oh yes, definitely. Hmm...wonder how we could make those reloading slides...
On a sidenote, I talked to my GM about converting a Predator IV into one of those guns (Predator IV converted for full auto, gas vent 3, an underbarrel weight to counteract a -1 "not made for autofire" modifier, and double capacity clips). For the low, low price of 1,600 ¥, you too can be a Grammaton Cleric! |
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May 10 2006, 04:04 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 18 Joined: 11-October 05 From: UK Member No.: 7,832 |
To chime in: I would probably only allow holdouts for humans and elves, light pistols for dwarves and orks, and heavy pistols for trolls, given the different body sizes. I might allow chars with body at their racial max to size up a level. Plus as above, a customised version would count as a class lower. So a troll with body 11 could pop out a customised assault rifle :) |
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May 10 2006, 08:13 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,556 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Seattle Member No.: 98 |
You know, the game already has machine pistols in it :P |
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May 10 2006, 08:18 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,150 Joined: 19-December 05 From: Rhein-Ruhr Megaplex Member No.: 8,081 |
I even allowed machine pistols in the armslide - because it's cool. If the user wears a wide cut coat or something. Really experienced security guards, however, would know of the type of the coat, that there is probably something hidden in his sleeve ...
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May 10 2006, 08:29 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,556 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Seattle Member No.: 98 |
"Excuse me, sir, could you hold on for a minute?"
"Sure, uh... no problem. Mind if I smoke?" "Nah, go ahead... -Uh, Bill, there's another guy down here with one of those coats on. You wanna fire up the millimeter-wave?- ... the computer's just acting funny, been having fits trying to auth people into the building. Just gotta reboot it..." |
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May 10 2006, 11:30 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 68 Joined: 19-April 06 From: Rio Rancho, NM Member No.: 8,484 |
Yeah, but they fire light ammo, and I was trying to get as close to those guns as possible, and they're definitely firing heavy pistol rounds. More precisely, apparently heavy pistol APDS rounds, considering they were goin all the way through the torso of guys wearing body armor... |
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May 10 2006, 11:47 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 515 Joined: 19-January 04 Member No.: 5,992 |
I thought they called those SMGs.
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May 11 2006, 12:03 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 68 Joined: 19-April 06 From: Rio Rancho, NM Member No.: 8,484 |
True, but then SMGs are much larger. If you haven't seen the movie, the guns are large pistols, probably somewhere between the size of a Beretta 92 and a Desert Eagle.
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May 11 2006, 06:26 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,556 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Seattle Member No.: 98 |
They're Beretta 92's with a muzzle extension built on. I believe Tauri were used at some point in the filming, too, for budget reasons (the whole thing was made for about $20 million).
9mm is spot-on for what I'd call a light pistol round. Loading APDS would make sense, given how much stuff was shot through in the movie, but you're still sitting nicely in the realm of the machine pistol. |
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May 12 2006, 01:18 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 68 Joined: 19-April 06 From: Rio Rancho, NM Member No.: 8,484 |
The models they used were Beretta 92s, yes, but they had far more power than a 9mm round in the movie. They're not actually supposed to be modified Beretta's, see, that's just what they chose to make the props from. Given the stuf those rounds go through, and the size of holes they leave, they've gotta be at least .40 or .45, and I'd venture to say they'd count as hot loads in modern rounds. But then, I'm no firearms expert either.
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May 17 2006, 04:08 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 139 Joined: 14-October 05 Member No.: 7,844 |
Even though the Beretta 92 and 96 series uses a 9mm round, it still is a fat pig. Honestly, I wouldn't allow anything bigger than a light pistol for an arm slide. In both Gunsmith Cats and Taxi Driver, only very small hold out pistols were used in the first place. Anything bigger than that wouldn't fit in my forearm anyway.
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May 17 2006, 04:21 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,479 Joined: 6-May 05 From: Idaho Member No.: 7,377 |
Thinking about this device a while back, I held my Glock up to my forearm for a comparison. I am a moderately sized person (6 foot, 250 pnds) and it wouldn't fit at all in my opinion. Heavy pistols just wouldn't be realistic there.
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May 17 2006, 07:12 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,556 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Seattle Member No.: 98 |
Glock subcompacts are about the biggest gun I'd let someone put in an arm slide, and that would only be on a large-ish character. You get any bigger than that, and you've got to start wearing those hugeass robes around that just look silly...
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