 Male/Female Vs. Soldier/Worker Insect Spirits, Do males and females have jobs? |
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 Apr 14 2006, 04:01 AM
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Moving Target  Group: Members Posts: 101 Joined: 27-October 02 From: Chicago Containment Zone Member No.: 3,504  |
Okay, so obviously I'm gearing up for having my players deal with insect spirits. This is my second thread with the spirits as the subject of the thread.
I'm in the process of making a good merge NPC that they will be dealing with often, Wasp, by the way, and got confused when I was trying to develop her stats. Now, for Wasp on the spirit table, it only lists Queen, Male, and Female, whereas for the other hive insects, it has Queen, Worker and Soldier. The book gives stats for flesh-form worker and soldier spirits, but not for male or female flesh forms. What gives? Are males workers and females soldiers, vice versa, or something completely different? |
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Apr 14 2006, 04:27 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 684 Joined: 8-April 06 From: My dorm room Member No.: 8,438 |
I understand that for lots of insect species (at least, for the kinds who live in colonies), the females are the ones who perform all the work, including defense of the colony. Males are just drones whose purpose in life is to mate with the queen. Anyway, I'd assume that both Workers and Soldiers are female.
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Apr 14 2006, 04:38 AM
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Uncle Fisty Group: Admin Posts: 13,891 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 |
and the males are mostly happy, if a bit competitive
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Apr 14 2006, 04:42 AM
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Midnight Toker Group: Members Posts: 7,686 Joined: 4-July 04 From: Zombie Drop Bear Santa's Workshop Member No.: 6,456 |
I would agree with Fangirl, but insect spirits are different from normal insects. They have to be invested in a human host. In the case of mantids, the host gender matters. In the case of flys it may not (a fly spirit in a female host is identified as male in Missing Blood).
For the most part, I wouldn't take gender into consideration at all. Different genders do not have different stats in SR and that extends to insects. A Soldier is a Soldier and a Worker is a Worker regardless of the gender of the host or the spirit. |
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Apr 14 2006, 04:59 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 101 Joined: 27-October 02 From: Chicago Containment Zone Member No.: 3,504 |
Okay. It was just very confusing seeing as they offered the differing True Spirit stats for Male and Female for Wasps, but then also offered Worker and Soldier for Ants.
Heh. Needless to say, this chica is going to be one badass motherfragger when she finally doublecrosses them... who would think that their little Asian lady Johnson is more deadly than her tough-looking bodyguards XD |
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Apr 14 2006, 05:18 AM
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Midnight Toker Group: Members Posts: 7,686 Joined: 4-July 04 From: Zombie Drop Bear Santa's Workshop Member No.: 6,456 |
Ahh, Wasps have no caste system (from Universal Brotherhood).
Personally, I'd treat all Wasp Flesh Forms as soldiers since all can sting. |
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Apr 14 2006, 06:09 AM
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Shadowrun Setting Nerd Group: Banned Posts: 3,632 Joined: 28-June 05 From: Pissing on pedestrians from my electronic ivory tower. Member No.: 7,473 |
Ask some of my players some time whether they are more afraid of my primary Ms. J, or the people working for her. |
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Apr 14 2006, 06:19 AM
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Uncle Fisty Group: Admin Posts: 13,891 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 |
it might help if you told us who your players are James. Then I'd be happy to! :)
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Apr 14 2006, 01:10 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 976 Joined: 16-September 04 From: Near my daughters, Lansdale PA Member No.: 6,668 |
Do not confuse the gender of the host body, with the gender of the spirit.
Queens seem to need to be femal but for others it does not matter. The only exception are mantids. They seem to keep things straight that way. |
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Apr 14 2006, 01:38 PM
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Incertum est quo loco te mors expectet; Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,548 Joined: 24-October 03 From: DeeCee, U.S. Member No.: 5,760 |
A stinger is a modified ovipositer. Hence, only females have stingers. Male wasps cannot sting. I'm not sure about the general population breakdown difference between the two genders, however. |
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Apr 17 2006, 12:55 AM
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Shadowrun Setting Nerd Group: Banned Posts: 3,632 Joined: 28-June 05 From: Pissing on pedestrians from my electronic ivory tower. Member No.: 7,473 |
Well, I don't know about his partiality since I nearly killed one of his PCs with a horribly vicious manabolt, but ... Try mfb (besides, he's the only one still on DS anymore). |
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