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 Apr 17 2006, 04:29 AM
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ghostrider  Group: Former Moderators Posts: 4,167 Joined: 16-May 04 Member No.: 6,333  |
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Apr 17 2006, 08:43 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,283 Joined: 17-May 05 Member No.: 7,398 |
And soon afterwards, we'll get rigging, too. We already have the control cyber, now we just need the sensory stuff.
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Apr 17 2006, 07:52 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 305 Joined: 2-March 03 Member No.: 4,188 |
This kinda startles me - I was just listening to an article on how this is being experimented on using rabbits. I'm stunned to see that it's being done in humans already.
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Apr 18 2006, 02:10 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,372 Joined: 16-April 02 From: the LI shadows Member No.: 2,607 |
Oh hell yeah. Once these become more like SR-style, with IR and rangefinder/targeting, I'm SO in the doc's office! (does monumentally bad Rocky impression: "Cut me, mick, cut me!")
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Apr 19 2006, 01:36 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 305 Joined: 2-March 03 Member No.: 4,188 |
Start saving, because you'll certainly live to see it (if current progress trends can be encouraged to continue, which requires luck and wisdom). Pushing associated R&D through consumer power will speed its development as well.
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Apr 19 2006, 02:03 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 126 Joined: 20-December 05 Member No.: 8,088 |
I figure in 20 years we could get an actual pair of cybereyes for $20,000.
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Apr 19 2006, 03:42 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 276 Joined: 4-September 04 Member No.: 6,628 |
With the way nanotech and regenerative medicine is going, cyber may go the way of the Dodo before it even gets here.
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Apr 19 2006, 04:40 AM
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ghostrider Group: Former Moderators Posts: 4,167 Joined: 16-May 04 Member No.: 6,333 |
If you're talking about "cyberware" as merely medical answers to disabilities and the like, then possibly. But even then, I doubt it.
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Apr 19 2006, 05:55 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,590 Joined: 11-September 04 Member No.: 6,650 |
they're already here
scientists predict 10 years before usable resolution is achieved -------------------- Kremlin K.O.A. (the Anti-James)
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Apr 19 2006, 06:31 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 890 Joined: 26-August 05 From: Europe - AGS - Norddeutscher Bund Member No.: 7,624 |
Is there another source for this story to verify it?
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Apr 19 2006, 06:57 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,598 Joined: 15-March 03 From: Hong Kong Member No.: 4,253 |
There are numberous sources about the doctor (William Dobelle, who died in 2004) describing him working on 'artificial vision research' and a few sources mentioning partial restoration of sight in blind volunteers.
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Apr 20 2006, 04:19 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 305 Joined: 2-March 03 Member No.: 4,188 |
This will only occur if we proactively continue to foster a society of progress and advancement. If we piss away our resources too quickly (and not find replacements fast enough), we might not make it. The real trick is to make sure to not spend your money foolishly, on wasteful products, but to spend it wisely (or save it if there's nothing to spend wisely on) Basically, purchasing products that requite similar R&D to produce will speed this type of progress. -------------------- What improves your life more? Helping cure aging? OR
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Apr 20 2006, 03:02 PM
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Incertum est quo loco te mors expectet; Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,180 Joined: 24-October 03 From: DeeCee, U.S. Member No.: 5,760 |
Err... What? The only thing I read that has relevance to the line quoted is that we should buy stuff based on similar R&D. Can you rephrase?
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Apr 21 2006, 08:39 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 112 Joined: 27-January 06 Member No.: 8,205 |
I have see photos of one of the volunteers o this project. The cables that go from the computer to the skull look just like they do in Shadowrun, but very ordinary. They really are like 2 or 3 cables strapped together. It looks very similar to a datajack... Exactly like one...
The Story appear in the cover (and inside) of a mexican magazine called Muy Interesante (Very Interesting). Sorry I can't scann it... |
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Apr 22 2006, 03:47 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 341 Joined: 3-October 05 Member No.: 7,802 |
Just don't expect blind people to disappear, even if these were made available to everyone.
People born blind aren't comfortable with the concept of being able to see most of the time, they're used to being blind and they don't want to change it. There's quite some fear in the blind community that governments will force blind people to take these and cut off their benefits. My personal fear is lack of understanding. I've been blind for a (very) few years now, due to messed up optic nerves (leber's optic atrophy to be exact). There would be nothing usable to connect eye replacements to in my case. I'm worried that if these things come about people won't accept why I can't have one. I already have enough trouble explaining why I don't have a guide dog (only a couple thousand here in the UK, probably similar numbers elsewhere. They seem more because they're so obvious, but they're not suitable for everyone by a long shot). On the other hand, if I could use them I'd only go for them if they had thermo ;) I've got set in my ways... and I'm only 22 at that. |
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Apr 22 2006, 07:12 AM
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Horror Group: Members Posts: 4,313 Joined: 15-June 05 From: BumFuck, New Jersey Member No.: 7,445 |
cx2, they don't interface with the optic nerve. As I understand it, they're directly stimulating the portions of the brain that interpret visual imput.
And would you take ones with an imagelink, if they lacked thermo? -------------------- Runners are not going to work for less money than they could make by stealing a Ford Americar once every couple of weeks and having the group troll negotiate the sale to a chop shop. ~ mmu1
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Apr 22 2006, 07:17 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,283 Joined: 17-May 05 Member No.: 7,398 |
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If you're blind, how are you reading these forums? :huh: Also, I'll point out that as long as the visual portion of your brain is intact, this stuff will work. |
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 Apr 22 2006, 08:39 AM
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jacked in Group: Admin Posts: 5,710 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 463 |
That's actually possible... the page gets read to you, using some special software. Bye Thanee |
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Apr 22 2006, 09:13 AM
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Horror Group: Members Posts: 4,313 Joined: 15-June 05 From: BumFuck, New Jersey Member No.: 7,445 |
Wonder how it handles forums?
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QUOTE (Udoshi @ Aug 30 2012, 01:18 AM) I think at this point, i'm just gonna chime in and say that the Weapon Mount rules are hella dumb. |
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Apr 22 2006, 01:21 PM
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Running, running, running Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,220 Joined: 18-October 04 From: North Carolina Member No.: 6,769 |
its also possible to be "legally blind" and still be able to see withthick ass glasses. Thanks to some harsh astigmatism, i feel like i am every morning i wake up before i put my contacts in.
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Apr 22 2006, 03:21 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,589 Joined: 28-November 05 Member No.: 8,019 |
What does the software read? It would suck if it read "Running Target Linebreak Group: members."
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Apr 22 2006, 07:10 PM
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ghostrider Group: Former Moderators Posts: 4,167 Joined: 16-May 04 Member No.: 6,333 |
No offense intended, but do you really mean to tell me that those people would rather be blind and receive a monthly stipend, than be able to see the world around them? Windows has a program that will read text to you. It's not the greatest, but if any of you are inclined to mess around with it, just go to Start>speech. -------------------- QUOTE (Screaming Eagle) But when you took up this job did you plan to live forever or live awesome? |
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Apr 22 2006, 07:30 PM
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Running, running, running Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,220 Joined: 18-October 04 From: North Carolina Member No.: 6,769 |
i think the fear would be to see shittily, and not get the payments... then again, i also think cx as talking about people born blind, and in that case, i can see it being a "scary" propisistion for them.
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Apr 24 2006, 05:11 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 305 Joined: 2-March 03 Member No.: 4,188 |
See, I knew that the story I heard was with regards to animals (it was rats, not rabbits) Here is a podcast with a discussion with the researcher. He thinks there will be human trials in 2 years (the interview with him starts at minute 22ish). ScienceFriday The device connects to a 'lower' level of optic cells, cells that are often not ruined during eye degeneration. Here is a summary page on his project. At the bottom there is a picture that describes how the device works. Clink to Link -------------------- What improves your life more? Helping cure aging? OR
Getting humanity to space faster? Liftport is working on technology for the Space Elevator. Both improve our prospects for the future |
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Apr 24 2006, 05:50 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,094 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Ontari-airee-o Member No.: 1,115 |
There were a few articles in journals from a year or so ago, where someone who lost his site, gained some of it back with an 81 pixel camera which fed into his cortex. there is a picture of him doing a burnout in a mustang. (and he was able to make out a few faces even with such a low resolution) I cannot find the link for the life of me. In order for this procedure to work, the patient must have been able to see before.
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