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 Ally Spirits, Just how friendly/useful can they be? |
 Jul 18 2004, 08:22 PM
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Target  Group: Members Posts: 44 Joined: 4-February 03 Member No.: 4,007  |
Sorry to rez this old topic, but it really got me thinking. OK, some 16 year old prepubecent wiz kid makes an ally spirit girlfriend. Now, the $1000 question... is does the ally without cloths count as a different "form" then the ally with cloths? :eek:
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 Jul 18 2004, 08:40 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 180 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,722 |
Hoi Chummer, check out Steve Kenson's Talon Studio's Articals here http://members.aol.com/talonmail/familiar.html
Cheers :D QM |
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Jul 18 2004, 09:58 PM
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Traumatizing players since 1992 Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,282 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Las Vegas, NV Member No.: 220 |
Aside from the link posted above, I would say yes. It does. Those are two different visual forms. |
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Jul 18 2004, 11:15 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 61 Joined: 8-December 03 Member No.: 5,887 |
Id give the spirit some leeway to change its appearance by will without it counting as a new form. For example clothes to no clothes, or minor changes to colour/length of hair and different clothes. It just makes sense to me that the appearance of a spirit is less a given thing than with a physical being. I dont let this become to much of an advantage though. If the player thinks it would be a good idea for the spirit to have a lone star uniform, or anything as specific as that, that would have to be a new form.
Blackwood Farm by Anne Rice is a book you should read if your interested in spirit/human love affairs. Its about a young man and his familiar. Its deeply erotic and written in that oldtime shellyish-gothic-romantic style I so like about Anne Rice. It shows a perfect example of what could happen when the relationship goes bad between a mage and his/her ally. Something that couldnīt be to uncommon judging from human relationships. Scary stuff. Homofobes be warned though. |
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Jul 18 2004, 11:34 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,840 Joined: 24-July 02 From: Lubbock, TX Member No.: 3,024 |
Free spirits take no drain from spellcasting? Reference please...I've been ripping off free spirits I think :) |
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Jul 19 2004, 01:20 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 173 Joined: 16-July 04 Member No.: 6,488 |
Magic in the Shadows, p. 118, "Sorcery."
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Jul 19 2004, 04:48 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,408 Joined: 31-January 04 From: Reston VA, USA Member No.: 6,046 |
Is it restricted to only free spirits? I had thought it was all spirits that had sorcery (i.e. including allies). [edit] My bad...I just looked it up:
Guess I need to pay more attention next time... :eek: |
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Jul 19 2004, 07:43 AM
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Senior GM Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,406 Joined: 12-April 03 From: Redmond, WA Member No.: 4,442 |
For 10 years, we've played that those are two different forms. I've seen characters carry around an extra Long Coat, to hand to their ally when it materialized.
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Jul 19 2004, 12:20 PM
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Free Spirit Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,928 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Bloomington, IN UCAS Member No.: 1,920 |
So if the ally has a clothed form, what happens to the clothes when it removes them?
1) Can not be removed. 2) They evaporate into the astral. 3) They lie in a pile on the floor. |
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Jul 19 2004, 12:42 PM
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Canon Companion Group: Members Posts: 8,021 Joined: 2-March 03 From: The Morgue, Singapore LTG Member No.: 4,187 |
If it is a materialised spirit, does its clothes get Immuity to Normal Weapons too? And can I wear them? :eek: :D |
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Jul 19 2004, 03:39 PM
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Traumatizing players since 1992 Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,282 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Las Vegas, NV Member No.: 220 |
4) It cannot remove them The clothes are integral to it's form, just like you trying to remove your skin. They look like clothes but in reality they are literally the spirit. The clothes are not separate entities. One way around this is to carry basic slothes for your ally to wear if they are to manifest for long periods. |
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Jul 19 2004, 03:48 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 173 Joined: 16-July 04 Member No.: 6,488 |
5) It doesn't remove them at all, it just wills them away. Much like how a projecting magician can will their clothing into anything they like, including nothing at all, when they astrally project. An ally spirit is doing the same thing just in reverse.
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Jul 19 2004, 05:45 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,685 Joined: 17-August 02 Member No.: 3,123 |
Don't make us waste numbers :P |
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Jul 19 2004, 07:40 PM
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Traumatizing players since 1992 Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,282 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Las Vegas, NV Member No.: 220 |
I wanted an extra thing though! :D |
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