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Ki Ryn
post Apr 22 2006, 07:45 PM
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My team needs to get through the exterior wall of a brick building - preferably quietly and quickly. What's a good way to do that in SR4?

It looks like an AV rocket is the quickets and least skill-intensive. But it is also very restricted and loud.

Plastic explosives seem readily available but I'm hesitant to use it with no Demoltions skills. Is it feasible to use that stuff untrained (in game)?

Isn't there some sort of thermite paste in real life that you can outline a hole with and then blow up (or burn through)? The thermite bar in the rules seems like a primitive version of that - but the stats for it don't look like they'd get though a good exterior wall.

I thought maybe an earth spirit could do something (the building being brick) but nothing there. I'm not familar with spells, and am not sure if the team would be able to get hold of a spell our shamman does not already have with her - but if there is the perfect spell out there, we'll certainly try :).

Anyway, there may not be any good way to do this - but I figured I would ask.
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- Ki Ryn   Breaching a wall   Apr 22 2006, 07:45 PM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   QUOTE (Ki Ryn) My team needs to get through the ex...   Apr 22 2006, 07:58 PM
- - Butterblume   Give your troll a chisel . And yes, this post i...   Apr 22 2006, 08:13 PM
- - mfb   Move Earth spell should work. failing that, can yo...   Apr 22 2006, 08:45 PM
- - Rooks   or you could just go to a window and use glass cut...   Apr 22 2006, 08:59 PM
- - hobgoblin   hmm, is the silence spell available? that and foam...   Apr 22 2006, 09:10 PM
- - Jhaiisiin   Problem with Move Earth is that most modern walls ...   Apr 22 2006, 09:42 PM
- - Aaron   Miniwelder? It's got a DV of 15 against barrie...   Apr 22 2006, 09:51 PM
- - Ki Ryn   Its a building that we need to get into (prisoner ...   Apr 22 2006, 09:52 PM
- - ronin3338   How about Turn to Goo? You could Goo the wall and...   Apr 22 2006, 09:55 PM
- - hobgoblin   have a rigger drive a big van filled with explosiv...   Apr 22 2006, 09:55 PM
- - Backgammon   Just drill it. That's not very loud and brick ...   Apr 22 2006, 09:56 PM
- - ronin3338   Or you can get one of those mine-tunneling things,...   Apr 22 2006, 09:58 PM
- - Jhaiisiin   Okay, this is a prison you're trying to get th...   Apr 22 2006, 10:17 PM
- - ronin3338   QUOTE (Jhaiisiin) And I thought Turn to Goo only ...   Apr 22 2006, 10:53 PM
- - Nikoli   A few weeks prior to the job (or days if necessary...   Apr 22 2006, 11:24 PM
- - James McMurray   What's the threshold and interval for engineer...   Apr 22 2006, 11:29 PM
- - ronin3338   How about engineering nanites that eat the plascre...   Apr 22 2006, 11:29 PM
- - Paul   QUOTE (Jhaiisiin) Okay, this is a prison you'r...   Apr 22 2006, 11:44 PM
- - hobgoblin   QUOTE (ronin3338) QUOTE (Jhaiisiin @ Apr 22 2...   Apr 22 2006, 11:56 PM
- - ronin3338   Well poop. That kills the opening to my story...   Apr 23 2006, 12:18 AM
- - Kremlin KOA   silence spell no noise escapes the area AV rocket...   Apr 23 2006, 01:06 AM
- - mfb   the rocket itself won't make a noise, nor woul...   Apr 23 2006, 01:45 AM
- - Nikoli   Cast it on the wall and it's general area, the...   Apr 23 2006, 01:55 AM
- - TBRMInsanity   I like the idea of using a spirit to do the dirty ...   Apr 23 2006, 02:07 AM
- - Big D   Whatever you use to make the actual breach (AV, de...   Apr 23 2006, 03:09 AM
- - Dranem   I would expect most SR prisons to have magical war...   Apr 23 2006, 05:20 AM
- - Nikoli   I think Big D might have the right of it. Those wa...   Apr 23 2006, 06:08 AM
- - hobgoblin   both, it depends on the parameters of the run...   Apr 23 2006, 05:33 PM
- - mintcar   Infect the wall with rockworms well ahead of time....   Apr 23 2006, 05:49 PM
- - Clyde   Summon a spirit with the weather control power and...   Apr 23 2006, 06:33 PM
- - TBRMInsanity   Hey the best of both worlds a spirit and a troll...   Apr 23 2006, 06:35 PM
- - Edward   You best bet is a silence spell, send a spirit ins...   Apr 24 2006, 02:29 PM
- - Shrike30   Hell, recon the prison design, make sure they don...   Apr 24 2006, 10:34 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   Getting through a thick concrete wall with thermit...   Apr 24 2006, 11:57 PM
- - Ki Ryn   I (the orginal poster) wasn't actually asking ...   Apr 24 2006, 11:57 PM
- - Shrike30   QUOTE (Austere Emancipator @ Apr 24 2006, 03:...   Apr 24 2006, 11:59 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   QUOTE (Shrike30)Thermic lances, eh? I'm curiou...   Apr 25 2006, 12:03 AM
- - Big D   Yeah, that changes things considerably. Shooting ...   Apr 25 2006, 12:08 AM
- - Paul   To continue further off topic: Most prisons are de...   Apr 25 2006, 12:23 PM
- - chevalier_neon   Depending on the wall, but from time to time it ca...   Apr 25 2006, 01:00 PM
- - Edward   There is always the power magic option, Have you...   Apr 25 2006, 03:07 PM
- - Moon-Hawk   If a mage summons a spirit with innate spell, who ...   Apr 25 2006, 03:14 PM
- - hobgoblin   given that a spirit can be used to astraly trace t...   Apr 25 2006, 04:29 PM
- - Ki Ryn   QUOTE (Edward) Have your mage summon the biggest s...   Apr 25 2006, 04:40 PM
- - Geekkake   QUOTE (Ki Ryn) I (the orginal poster) wasn't a...   Apr 25 2006, 04:59 PM
- - Kremlin KOA   This sounds like a "White Tiger" Scenari...   Apr 25 2006, 05:28 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   Not that I've personally tried, but I doubt a ...   Apr 25 2006, 05:42 PM
- - Kremlin KOA   true I got a few of my proportions wrong but I des...   Apr 25 2006, 05:51 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   I don't think the relative amounts are quite a...   Apr 25 2006, 06:07 PM
- - Kremlin KOA   Not really, it is harder to douse the napalm than ...   Apr 25 2006, 06:19 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   I figure it'd be harder to douse 30 square fee...   Apr 25 2006, 06:22 PM
- - Kremlin KOA   Yeah but spreading either like that would be probl...   Apr 25 2006, 06:23 PM
- - hobgoblin   a tracer round in a jerry can of petrol should res...   Apr 25 2006, 06:35 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   QUOTE (hobgoblin)a tracer round in a jerry can of ...   Apr 25 2006, 06:41 PM
- - hobgoblin   thing is that SR4 do not have stats for a WP grena...   Apr 25 2006, 06:50 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   It doesn't have stats for jerry cans full of p...   Apr 25 2006, 06:56 PM
- - hobgoblin   heh, true. but then that was not my suggestion. i ...   Apr 25 2006, 07:29 PM
- - Voran   I was just wondering, is a monowire 'chain saw...   Apr 26 2006, 10:40 AM
- - Austere Emancipator   You're still crushing and tearing apart a wall...   Apr 26 2006, 10:42 AM
- - juggertroll   nah, a troll, a crowbar and a can of nitro do the ...   Apr 26 2006, 03:04 PM
- - Edward   On the subject of signature for a spell cast buy a...   Apr 26 2006, 03:33 PM
- - hobgoblin   just state that patron so-and-so recomended her   Apr 26 2006, 09:03 PM
- - Shrike30   The initial fireball and subsequent burning of a s...   Apr 26 2006, 09:42 PM
- - hobgoblin   ah, silly me. i forgot that they have generic fire...   Apr 26 2006, 09:48 PM
- - Shrike30   "What, you need a WP grenade now? Got 250 nu...   Apr 26 2006, 09:55 PM
- - Apathy   QUOTE (Kremlin KOA) silence spell no noise escapes...   Apr 27 2006, 08:19 PM


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