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post Apr 25 2006, 03:47 PM
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How do you keep a technomancer from using is abilities?

Other than killing them or keeping them knocked out that is.

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post Apr 25 2006, 03:53 PM
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Jammer?
Foil hat? Or would it have to be a full-body foil wrap?
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post Apr 25 2006, 03:53 PM
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Anything that would stop someone from using a commlink should also stop a technomancer. The easiest method for that is a room without wireless access and/or a jammer.
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post Apr 25 2006, 03:53 PM
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Firewalls.

Really, it's pretty much like dealing with hackers. If they can't get at a device, or within signal range of it or something networked to it, they can't hack it. And if they can, regular security measures will have to do.

But as far as I know, there is no "off switch", nor are there "Otaku-jammer" grenades.

Edit: Too slow, it seems, for my smartass comment to come first. Woe is me.
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post Apr 25 2006, 04:20 PM
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They still need to be able to process the wireless traffic around them, so a jammer should keep them inactive in an area and a head-jammer should be as effective as it would be against someone with a cranial commlink.
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post Apr 25 2006, 04:24 PM
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Any sort of physical effects going to manifest over jamming a TM?
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post Apr 25 2006, 05:04 PM
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Any sort of physical effects going to manifest over jamming a TM?

Nothing other than psychosomatic RP effects.
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post Apr 25 2006, 05:09 PM
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Not to derail the thread, but what about this:
Rather than blocking them, what about the opposite? It might make for an interesting plot device if there were a drug or something that prevented a TM from going offline, either to sever their wireless link or to reboot. Maybe even a side-effect of an existing drug, like Hyper.
Just a thought for the sadistic GMs.
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post Apr 25 2006, 05:28 PM
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The best way to block a TM is with Wifi blocking paint in paintball guns
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post Apr 25 2006, 05:30 PM
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Why would a TM want to sever his wireless link? If a TM wants to hide from someone, he can use Hidden mode, Stealth, or Spoof. If those measures aren't enough and he's really desperate, he can always go to a dead zone, where it's impossible to get a connection. Also, how do you reboot your own brain? Anyway, I'd expect that a TM would be happy with such a drug.
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post Apr 25 2006, 06:07 PM
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Isnt a TM's brain always in Hidden mode? Its not like the TM is broadcasting a "Hi. I'm Bob the TM." profile cause he isnt a commlink per say. I would figure that most TM's would need a dummy commlink just to have all the normal data displaying that your street sam would just so he fit in.
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post Apr 25 2006, 06:38 PM
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Actually, p.233 of SR4 says that few TMs get commlinks, and those who do only get them because they're "retro." Since TMs can switch from AR to VR easily, I can imagine that they're equally able to change modes from Active to Passive to Hidden as well. Also, the only functional differences between a TM's brain and a commlink that SR4 points out are that TMs don't have Condition Monitors or file storage, and are therefore incapable of installing programs into their brains.

Going back to the "rebooting" question, I suppose that you could "reboot" a TM's brain. . .but I'd imagine that the only ways of doing so would be by 1) jamming and then unjamming him, 2) taking him into a dead zone and then out again, or 3) knocking him out and waiting until he regains consiousness.
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post Apr 25 2006, 07:30 PM
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pg. 221

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Rebooting is more complicated for technomancers, as they
cannot simply shut their brains off . In order to reboot, a technomancer
must sever his Matrix connection completely and make an
Extended Logic + Willpower Test (10, 1 hour) while fully resting
(no physical, draining, or Matrix activity). Aft er this recovery period
has passed, the technomancer may reconnect to the Matrix
with his living personaís attributes fully restored.
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post Apr 25 2006, 07:33 PM
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hmm, how does a technomancer sever his matrix connection...
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post Apr 25 2006, 07:37 PM
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I want to express an opinion here: A technomancer with a shitty commlink full of innocuous programs has ULTIMATE deniability. They get tracked and busted, arrested, and their commlink confiscated, the people detaining the TM will go through the comm and say "Shit, there's nothing in here!"

When I make a TM, I always go for the Novatech Airware w/ Iris Orb OS. Straight 3's, which makes it a nice middle-of-the-road comm. Put some games on it, some porn, maybe pictures of your family, and when the authorities are rifling through it because you hacked one of their hosts they'll be puzzled.

Technomancers without commlinks? Sure, I can dig it. A technomancer running the shadows without a commlink is just a retard.
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post Apr 25 2006, 08:14 PM
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That's a great idea!! Now I have to find a way to exploit it when FanGirl uses it.
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post Apr 25 2006, 08:59 PM
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QUOTE (hobgoblin)
hmm, how does a technomancer sever his matrix connection...

...go into a WiFi proofed area. The rules mention about WiFi blocking paint & structural materials that companies & corps can use to keep outsiders from hackling into an area.

Beyond that, a Predator round to the brain works well too, but that severs the link permanently.
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post Apr 25 2006, 10:16 PM
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Predator to the brain only severs the link permenantly if you don't have a first aid guy standing by. If you do he can stop the major bleeding and then you can sleep the wound off.
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post Apr 25 2006, 11:02 PM
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QUOTE (emo samurai)
That's a great idea!! Now I have to find a way to exploit it when FanGirl uses it.

Or I could just not use it. . .and get busted anyway. Damn you, Emo!

QUOTE (Kyoto Kid)
...go into a WiFi proofed area.  The rules mention about WiFi blocking paint & structural materials that companies & corps can use to keep outsiders from hackling into an area. 
 
Beyond that, a Predator round to the brain works well too, but that severs the link permanently.

Actually, anywhere that doesn't have a wireless connection, such as the wilderness or a "feral area," would work.

I should mention that TMs get very agitated when they can't get meshed. SR4 recommends:
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Characters should handle [lack of Matrix access] with appropriate roleplaying--their technomancers may get depressed, irritated, or otherwise upset. (p. 210)

I plan to handle this in a very fun way if my character should have to spend a long time in a dead zone:

Teammate: (notices that FanGirl's eyelid is twitching) Hey, are you okay? You need those sedatives we got for you?
FanGirl: (trying to sound reassuring) No thanks; I'm sure I'll be fine.

(Three hours later. . . .)

FanGirl: GIMMIE THOSE FRAGGING SEDATIVES NOW, YOU GODDAMN SONOFABITCH!
Teammate: Okay, okay, just calm down. . . breathe. . . put down the taser. . . .
FanGirl: I said NOW! (ZAP!)
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post Apr 25 2006, 11:07 PM
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I could see simsense chips designed to simulate VR being useful - both for containing captured technomancers and for easing matrix isolation.
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post Apr 25 2006, 11:16 PM
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You could also carry a satellite uplink.

Just make sure you don't attack C's character or Johann; those guys will smack you down.
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post Apr 25 2006, 11:17 PM
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QUOTE (emo samurai)
You could also carry a satellite uplink.

Just make sure you don't attack C's character or Johann; those guys will smack you down.

I'd imagine that 2-second delay would be aggravating.
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post Apr 25 2006, 11:23 PM
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Yeah, probably.
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post Apr 25 2006, 11:26 PM
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Either way it's fun for everyone! :D
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post Apr 26 2006, 02:00 AM
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Fangirl, I would like to recommend a way to relive your matrix isolation aggravation.

Hack Johannís COM link, smart link, gun, cyber wear, when you have run out of team-mates stuff to hack start modifying structures to make them more efficient and when you get bord of that demand the drugs from Johann with your tzer, he tyres to attack you back, well you already have control of his cyber wear.

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