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Apr 28 2006, 01:15 AM
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Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,589 Joined: 28-November 05 Member No.: 8,019 |
Let's have a run-down of how each corp would handle it.
Shiawase: I don't see the Big Happy Japanese Family as including a breeding pit. Renraku: Maybe; it's big on the whole technocratic angle and the supremacy of science to the point that they go beyond science. Yamatetsu: Possibly because of their transhumanism, but they're not really big on the genetic superiority of much of anybody, so 80% chance of no. Ares: No, they seem not to want to control their employees to that degree. NEOnet: If it's anything like Novatech, then it's basically a normal American company, with secretarial pools, mergers, and a lack of a paternalistic, pseudoscientific breeding program. Wuxing: Too traditional. S-K: Probably not; even though Lofwyr's big on survival of the fittest, he's more about people proving their fitness than having it shown by a DNA test. He probably values aptitude too much to reduce it down to a string of molecules. Horizon: From what we know, they're very laissez-faire. No breeding program. MCT: It's possible, but they seem too pragmatic to care that much. Aztechnology: Anything's possible with those dudes. |
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Apr 28 2006, 01:18 AM
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Beetle Eater ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,797 Joined: 3-June 02 From: Oblivion City Member No.: 2,826 |
And with the advent of p'fix chips, marriges might have a new edge. "My wife doesn't listen to me any more." "Well, I think we can fix that." Kinda a new twist on the Stepford Wives... Or mail-order brides. "I really like this meat puppet. How much is it to take her home?"
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Apr 28 2006, 01:19 AM
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Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,589 Joined: 28-November 05 Member No.: 8,019 |
Now THAT would be cyberpunk.
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Apr 28 2006, 02:28 AM
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Prime Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,577 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gwynedd Valley PA Member No.: 1,221 |
Coprs would problably encourage inter corp dating. Better that than and R&D manager at renraku sleeping with an advertising exec at Wuxing.
And guys, before she sees it. DLN is full Japanese. Her husband is English so her kids will be mixed but she's "unmixed." Her parents have been cool with her husband but one of her brothers married a girl of Korean extraction and the stories are that it was ugly. The situation, not the sister in law. |
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Apr 28 2006, 02:48 AM
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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,430 Joined: 10-January 05 From: Fort Worth, Texas Member No.: 6,957 |
Did you mean intracorp dating? Intercorp would be between different corporations.
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Apr 28 2006, 03:15 AM
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 22 Joined: 9-April 06 From: Ca Member No.: 8,442 |
I don't know about this, there are a few women at my work I wouldn't mind being forced into a relationship with. And if you paying me to do so alls the better. Kind of strange though since dating your coworkers in the United States is generally frowned upon by employers. I can see the racist angle here but really thats not entirely accurate. I'm a full american and have to been to japan several times. They are alot more xenophobic then they are racist and if you look at what outside influence has done to them before, samurai rebellions - hiroshima perhaps?, you can't really blame them.
As a side note about Japanese being misrepresented in media. If you want a good example check out memoirs of a geisha. The japanese movie about japanese culture that doesn't have a single japanese actor on the entire bloody cast. |
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Apr 28 2006, 05:59 AM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 225 Joined: 1-November 05 Member No.: 7,917 |
Dude, there's a reason no one saw that movie...
Anywho, corporate structure in America is anti-inter-personal in general. I find it surprise that people even remember their libidos when they walk through the door. The lack of romantic relationships has more to do with the prevalence of lawsuits in the 90s. In the 70s, work was a great place to meet women (I hate to reveal the source, but that's the candid revelation of my father who is 1) a jerk 2) a jerk who has had sexual harassment legal action against him post-90s. I would consider it no offense against me to be judgemental of him at this point. I've got more reasons that you to hate him) |
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Apr 28 2006, 06:06 AM
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,618 Joined: 29-January 03 From: Montevideo, Uruguay. Member No.: 3,992 |
You should check the Culture Shock section of SotA:2064 (Brat Packs). Corporate orphanages are great PR. I can perfectly see corps screening their sperm & DNA banks for best results. Hell, Tir Tairngire already did it in 2054. |
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Apr 28 2006, 06:12 AM
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Midnight Toker ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 7,686 Joined: 4-July 04 From: Zombie Drop Bear Santa's Workshop Member No.: 6,456 |
The thing about that is that sexual harasment statues are so broad that you could get sued for not grabbing a coworker's butt. So, all things being equal, you might as well go for it since the law is against you either way. |
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Apr 28 2006, 06:19 AM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 934 Joined: 26-August 05 From: Earth - Europe - AGS - Norddeutscher Bund - Hannover Member No.: 7,624 |
Actually people aren't thinking that about all US Americans. Just about those who are in charge. ;) |
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Apr 28 2006, 06:28 AM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 225 Joined: 1-November 05 Member No.: 7,917 |
Well, when you say "you" I suppose you mean "men".
Starting from that assumption, I would say that the 80s whiplash against women in the workplace is an early indicator of the continuing indignation of most american male workers have over nothing. Overall, you should re-center your paranoia on just generally crazy people who are the only ones likely to bring a non-sexual harassment suit before a judge. Sociopathic tendencies really crosses gender and race lines, uniting us all against people who are just plain idiots. |
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Apr 28 2006, 07:10 AM
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Midnight Toker ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 7,686 Joined: 4-July 04 From: Zombie Drop Bear Santa's Workshop Member No.: 6,456 |
Actually, not at all. If a man grabbed my ass in the workplace I would politely inform him that I don't swing in that direction but I would mind. I was really hoping for women to take that advice however it was completely gender neutral and applies equaly to males, females, all varieties of intersexed, pre-op transsexuals of both persuasions, and true hermaphrodites. I believe is equality - not fake forced equality but the true equality that comes from breaking down all social barriers. I believe in sexually integrated restrooms, for example. I believe that women should be allowed to play major league sports beside men. I hate misogynists but I love misanthropes. If I were going to intentionally sexually harass someone I would be just as likely to harass a heterosexual male (despite being a hetrosexual male myself) as I would be to sexually harass a women because I believe in equality. I just think that people should lighten up. A little flirting in the office never hurt anyone. The vast of so called sexual harassment is due to miscommunication because one party isn't assertive enough. All it takes is one clear and simple setting of personal boundries to clear such issues up. If someone grabs your ass and you don't like it you can just say. "Don't grab my ass. I don't like it." It couldn't be simpler. Actual harrasment, sexual or no is different. If I ran an extraterritorial corportion intentional harassment would be an executable offense. When someone was accused of an act of harrasment I would go to that person's place of work and judge the case myself. If the evidence points to guilt I would motion for my swordbearer, take the weapon, and cleanly slice the oppender in half at the hips, leaving the half person to write on the floor and bleed to death as an example to everyone else that harasment won't be tollerated. |
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Apr 28 2006, 08:13 AM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 225 Joined: 1-November 05 Member No.: 7,917 |
Wow, you would need some wiz-band mono-sword tech for that kind of cutting; furthermore, you travel expenses would be very high. Did you like pop a boner at that one episode of Next Gen where they went to the paradise semi-nude planet where their only punishment was death?
I don't know, I think if corps could de-sexualize their employers they would do that before supporting equal-sexualizing their employees. The only real edge people have over machines in the economy is creativity, dexterity, and pattern recognition skills. For instance, if Japanese truly believed in making more children they would go in and the (ready for it?) fuckin' job done right. I'm sure they will still manage to make a profit off the backs of overworked people are immigrants fill the ranks of society. Even if they have to sacrifice a few racist views, the institution can still survive having Chinese workers and its survival is all the institution cares about. That's why they call it a business instead of a community. |
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Apr 28 2006, 01:15 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 976 Joined: 16-September 04 From: Near my daughters, Lansdale PA Member No.: 6,668 |
The male lead in Memoirs of a Geisha was Ken Watanabe. He is Japanese. It was the 3 main female leads, that were ethnic Chinese.
The only complaints were from China who said the movie (made in the Us, based on a book written by an american man) was an attempt by the Japanese to use Chinese women as sex objects. |
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Apr 28 2006, 03:23 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 976 Joined: 16-September 04 From: Near my daughters, Lansdale PA Member No.: 6,668 |
Thanks SF but I was not going to freak. For the record my parents are fine with the fact I married a caucasian and that one of my brothers married a girl who is Korean the way we are Japanese. None of us had any problems. Her parents were a little put off by it, but we won them over. This does lead to an interesting trend in SR. In the Americas today there does not seem to be a problem between asian groups born here. Only in older people who carry over the old fueds. BUT in SR you see it coming back where the Yakuza killed the ethnic Koreans in it. That the Koreans were in it to be killed shows where we are "now" with out a problem here. this could also feed into corp environments. what if the Japan-corps start cracking down on an ethnicity? Aztechnology purged UB member, right? What if your b/f was suddenly booted? Or your career was maxing out because you were dating 'one of those?" |
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Apr 29 2006, 05:20 AM
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Uncle Fisty ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 13,863 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 |
I saw that episode (and love that show). I was going to mention it. The whole thing seemed very rushed and frantic. As it was portrayed at least, there really didn't seem to be much hope on either end unless one was willing to compromise, was desperate, or just made a very good first impression. Of course, a great first impression is pretty hard to do the 15th time around. I can defintely see something like this happening in Arcologies though. Go Shiawase! |
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Apr 29 2006, 03:14 PM
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Prime Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,577 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gwynedd Valley PA Member No.: 1,221 |
The idea behind speed dating is you get 3-5 minutes talking to someone, see if you "click" and then move on. In better run places, you have a score card. "Liked mr 7, didn't like mr 3, mr 5 is geeky" etc. at the end you turn it in to the people running it. Then everyone mingles. You've already broken the ice so can talk freely. the people running it then compare cards and if people match up "Miss 6 likes Mr 3 and Mr 3 said he likes Miss 6" they then let htose people know there's a mutual attraction-assuming they didn't already hook up-because people are supposed to hold off in case they are really pushing on someone who is not interested but just being polite.
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Apr 29 2006, 10:20 PM
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 72 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Oak Ridge, TN, CAS Member No.: 407 |
RE: Memoirs of a Geisha
The book is fictional. There's a non-fiction book called "Geisha, A Life", which is an actual autobiography. Note: a Geisha is NOT a prostitute, but the actual role is too complex for me to explain the differences right now. |
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Apr 29 2006, 11:24 PM
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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,430 Joined: 10-January 05 From: Fort Worth, Texas Member No.: 6,957 |
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Apr 30 2006, 11:17 PM
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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 6,640 Joined: 6-June 04 Member No.: 6,383 |
That's why I won't see the film. I don't know what kind of moron of a director thought it would be funny to cast Chinese women as freaking geishas. I mean, I grew up in NYC, and hardly consider myself to be culturally Japanese at all, but it seems to me like casting Chinese women as geishas is so absurd that it's going back to the 1950s when a fat white guy played Fu Manchu on TV. I find it vaguely offensive (and I hardly ever use this word because I'm not even into PC) that the director or casting person would think that in this day and age white people who are interested in seeing a historical film about geisha would be totally unaware of the difference between Chinese people and Japanese people. Just, yeah...seeing the previews of this film left all kinds of bad taste in my mouth. |
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May 1 2006, 12:27 AM
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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,430 Joined: 10-January 05 From: Fort Worth, Texas Member No.: 6,957 |
How many japanese actresses are out there? If there aren't a lot then Chinese may have been a necessary evil.
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May 1 2006, 01:10 AM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 225 Joined: 1-November 05 Member No.: 7,917 |
Dude, have you ever watched Iron Chef? They have at least one clueless female actress for every episode of the show (they're probably not all clueless, but they all make it a point to smile widely and act glib)
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May 1 2006, 02:11 AM
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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,430 Joined: 10-January 05 From: Fort Worth, Texas Member No.: 6,957 |
I didn't see Geisha. Could a clueless actress pull off the roles?
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May 1 2006, 02:55 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 976 Joined: 16-September 04 From: Near my daughters, Lansdale PA Member No.: 6,668 |
Wounded, just north of NYC in White Plains there is a big Japanese population. My brothers and I got saturday 'culture" schooling. But there was never a big influx of Japanese to the US the way there were other groups. There are lots of Japanese actresses but many do not speak english enough for the role.
The 2 female leads were ethnically Chinese but both were born in Indonesia. If they were born in the US, most people would say they were 'asian-americans." This is a great example, Wounded, of the racism I mentioned among different asian groups. There was some resistance in Japan, land of the xenophobic bigots, but the women were so good that the film did well. Michelle Yeoh summed it up by saying they are actresses who play roles. Does anyone in the US question it if the actor playing an Italian was of Irish decent? Anthony Quinn played 'Zorba the Greek' and he was an irish/mexican mix. |
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May 1 2006, 04:22 PM
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Neophyte Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,174 Joined: 13-May 04 From: UCAS Member No.: 6,327 |
Or all the British actors that usually play Julius Caesar...
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