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Prynniam
post May 1 2006, 11:15 PM
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Has anyone gamed with a person like this? The person in question has been the GM for quite some time but recently the rest of the group has been taking over the duty. But he will constantly tell us how we should be gming the game and gets angry when we don't play it his way and sometime resorts to pouting. Does anyone have suggestion on how to deal with this problem. Thanks.
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post May 1 2006, 11:22 PM
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give the person a bag of candy or something...
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post May 1 2006, 11:28 PM
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Pouting? I suppose if the bag of candy was heavy enough to do some real damage.

In this case, a simple "STFU, you're not GMing anymore, enjoy the relief while it lasts" should be sufficient for most GMs who've been running the game so long they can't imagine not GMing.
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post May 1 2006, 11:36 PM
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A reminder that he's not the one running the game at the moment should be sufficient. I'd be *happy* if my players decided to run the game for a while...
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post May 1 2006, 11:42 PM
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Yeah, one would think he would be but by the end of the game we weren't talking and he decide he would be run the next session even though at the beginning of the session I was going to finish my story arc.
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post May 2 2006, 12:21 AM
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How does the rest of your party feel about this?

If they agree with you, I say rise up & overthrow your fascist overlord....
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post May 2 2006, 12:23 AM
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i'm not sure what advice i can give, since everyone on this board but me plays the game wrong!
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post May 2 2006, 12:25 AM
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and still we love you mfb.
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post May 2 2006, 12:26 AM
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yes, but you love me wrong. ...wait, let me rephrase that.
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post May 2 2006, 12:27 AM
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Moodchips. Sometimes it's the only way.
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post May 2 2006, 12:29 AM
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more like personafix in this case...
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post May 2 2006, 12:31 AM
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Meh, I bet he's just unable to relax while not in total control. Maybe a few drinks, a hit on the bong, or just a few tabs of valium.
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post May 2 2006, 12:34 AM
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i would not suggest drinks. it seems to get people wired rather then relaxed...
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post May 2 2006, 12:46 AM
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Yeah, seriously, if someone WANTED to run the game insted of me, more power to him.
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post May 2 2006, 01:06 AM
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I just stopped running a game early for this exact reason. Yeah, I just answered your question. It's not a perfect solution at all, but it was better than the alternative, considering that no amount of talking seemed to solve it.
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post May 2 2006, 01:30 AM
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At the same time, give this guy a little time to adjust. I've gone from GM to player myself, and it can take some adjusting - especially if you've never been a player before. You can find yourself acting more like a GM than a player, interjecting yourself into rules questions that don't even pertain to you. Explain to him that each GM has his or her own style and interpretations of the rules, and that he should give the new GM(s) the same courtesy that he expected when he was the GM.
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post May 2 2006, 02:30 AM
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I have a GM/player like that too. He had been captured by the yakuza and was being transport to be exchanged for the hostage they had kidnapped. He then attempts to escape by mind controlling the driver, drives up on the sidewalk and runs people down to escape. Granted I didn't tell the characters the exchange was gone to happen but it was after 12 a.m. and he had just said he wanted us to finish this run before next session so he could do something. Therefore I thought I could just railroad the session to an end. My Bad I guess.
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post May 2 2006, 03:09 AM
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Can you shoot him? If so, go for it.

There is no other constructive answer that is sure to apply to all fascists.
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post May 2 2006, 03:16 AM
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QUOTE (hyzmarca)
Can you shoot him? If so, go for it.

There is no other constructive answer that is sure to apply to all fascists.

personally, i recommend defenestration.

educational (you learn what the word "defenestration" means), fun, and you don't need a gun (though presumably a window would be useful, preferably above the first floor).

;) :P
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post May 2 2006, 04:10 AM
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Darn, I completely forgot about defenstration. Yes, defenstration never gets old.
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post May 2 2006, 04:36 AM
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Exsanguination usually works like a charm, too.

But I'd hate to see your cleaning bill.
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post May 2 2006, 06:19 AM
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Seeing as how almost everyone seems to think that you should do something horrible to this guy, I suppose my answer may not be too popular.

I have been in this position myself. It's not easy, especially with inexperienced GMs. I have always been the one that knew the rules the best. Not that they are stupid, but as GM, I have always taken the game more seriously than the others. GMing also give you the most opportunity to learn the rules.

Switching from GM to player isn't easy. The newer GMs still defer to me for any questions that come up. They also have a tendency to do things their own way, which is awesome, but different. When I have my character do something, especially during combat when the rules are important, I expect the opponents to react in a way that they would if I were GMing. It can be frustrating when they do not.

In the end, keep in mind that he may be feeling as frustrated as the rest of you. Try talking to him out of session. See if there is anything in particular that he is having a problem with, and then try to develop a compromise. Telling him that he has to lump it isn't going to solve anything.
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post May 2 2006, 07:27 AM
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Get him drunk, take pictures of him in a compromising situation, then threaten to show them online if he doesn't shut up

Not that I'm suggesting anything illegal :)
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post May 2 2006, 11:58 AM
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QUOTE (Prynniam)
Does anyone have suggestion on how to deal with this problem.

Suggest that it may be better to form new groups which are both happy with their style of play?
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post May 2 2006, 01:41 PM
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Curently, I have a friend who too is a total fascist. If things aren't done his way, he whines and complains and yells at us, throws things around, flails about, with cracking voice, and then has the gall to call US children.

Said person has been telling me that my way of doing things is wrong and that "everyone else in the world does it completely different". I've been fighting with this "gent" for quite some time now.

Honestly, I don't have a solution for you, but I can safely say that you need to take action regarding your fascist friend immediately. The longer that waits, the worse it gets. I've been trying to compromise with my friend, but they continue to lash out.

I believe the best course of action is to sit down with them and talk it out. Don't accuse (as hard as that sounds), and make sure you know how the rest of the group feels. Perhaps have them relay their feelings as well. Sometimes my friend likes to BS me and tell me otherwise about my friends when I clearly heard the opposite a day ago, a few hours ago, or even just a few minutes ago.

Hit him where it hurts, but don't hit too hard.
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