MI3... Shadowrun? Options

[Shadow]

I just got to see MI3 and it was awesome. I was watching it the entire time thinking, "this is Shadowrun".

[mfb]

so, ruin it for me: was it a well-plotted surprisefest like the first one, or a vaguely silly actionfest like the second? if it's like the first one, i'll definitely agree that it's SRish.

[markusb]

I have seen it yesterday, and yeah, it definitely had sr-ish elements

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Though the move itself kinda sucked, awkward moments aplenty, especially when nothing was being blown up, not much on terms of twists (except the obligatory supposed-to-be-big one in the end), the entire plot just kinda snowballs with an air of inevitability, we always know what's gonna happen next

But such concerns aside, the first major action sequence was a fine example of a guns-blazing-after-bit-of-stealth kind of extraction, with a 'rigger' controlling sentry guns (set up around the building for distraction) from a van (and providing info on targets via the guns' sensors), judicious use of demolitions, vehicle combat with helicopters in the end. The introduction of the cranial (more like kink~, though) bomb. Oh, and they leave behind equipment worth a fortune.
(one of my favourite points of argument with my players is on whether IR sees through walls, well here it definitely does)

The second one was another extraction, this time done stealthily over a larger timeframe, but kinda cheesy at points. Think 'the italian job'-ish planning to a second and a millimeter (only for this crew it took like a couple of hours to set it up, never mind where they got such accurate maps on the deepest bowels of the Vatican), crawling around sewers and air ducts, disguises, blowing holes in walls and grates, beacons to find each other, scuba gear, etc.

The next one was my favourite, hands down. It involves Evil Prisoner in armored car being brought somewhere with heroes (and fellow good guys) following in suvs, on a long, low bridge. Out of the blue comes a Predator (or somesuch aerial drone) and promptly chucks half a dozen rockets in the bridge and the escorting good guys' suvs (only heroes live, of course), thus isolating them in between holes on said bridge. From below the bridge emerges a black helo with guys (in helmets, gasmasks, the whole stormtrooper getup) in black sitting on the sides, the riggerish guy controlling the predator among them. They make a few circles shooting up everything and dropping a couple of smoke grenades, and then rappel down to armored car, blow it open with some kind of weird foam, evac Evil Prisoner and fly away into the sunset, the single casualty being the drone whom Hero shot down with an LMG-ish thing.
And the nicest thing: they are speaking german! The whole scene just screamed S-K black ops to me, it was just so german-efficiently and german-ruthlessly done.

The following was a kinda half-assed, 'snatch the prototype' thing, showing only the hero's outlandish methods of entering (tarzanesque swinging on cable) and exiting (base jumping) (nothing on what he done on the inside, after we are told that Langley would be a piece of cake to infiltrate compared to this joint), and a solo gig, to boot, no sr-ish temwork on this one. Car chase attached. Oh, and there was some wdf-he-just-did shooting on the hero's part, think skill around 9, 10 rather. But that might be just me.

Final one is nothing much, solo shoot-em-up and beat-them-up on foot with gritty surroundings, escape artistry, hacker friend helping out with satellite mapping and GPS to find places, cranial bomb in hero-head added for extra intensity.

[Oracle]

[markusb]

I didn't even think of anything ww2 (or any war, come to think of it) related, chill out.

I meant german-ruthless as Saeder Krupp under Lofwyr's command is ruthless in Shadowrun

[SL James]

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*re-reads markusb's post*

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Wow.

*makes a note to never see this movie*

This makes Alias seem plausible.

[Kagetenshi]

[Grinder]

;)

[Kremlin KOA]

[bustedkarma]

I thought it was the conception of the Euro?

[Grinder]

Good joke - the € actually increased the price of nearly everything here in Germany (some products doubled in price). must be plan of the French then... bloody French...

:D

[Kremlin KOA]

which was created through???

[FanGirl]

Yeah, a lot of French people don't really care for Germans, either: they're still a little mad about the whole "invasion" thing. I remember when I was in France as an exchange student, and my host family was going to take me to visit this couple they were friends with. The day before the visit, my host mother warned me, "You should know, Monsieur So-And-So doesn't really like German people." I thanked her for letting me know that, but couldn't see what it had to with me personally.

The next day we went to see the couple, and Madame So-And-So greeted us at the door. "This is the American?" she asked. "But you look so German!" When she said that, my first reaction was "I do?"--I knew that I have lots of German ancestry on both sides of my family, but had never thought of myself as looking like anything but a white Caucasian person. My next reaction was to freak out just a little bit; I was afraid that Monsieur So-And-So would assume that I was some kind of covert agent sent by the SS to scout out his home or something. Fortunately, he ended up being quite pleasant to me, although one of his fluffy cats was quite snotty towards me.

[Grinder]

[James McMurray]

So only the cat saw through your SS disguise? Good for him! :)

[hyzmarca]

[Kagetenshi]

When did we get that impression?

~J

[mfb]

we think that? i dunno, i actually don't pay much attention to worldwide badass specops teams. i know it's supposed to be a pretty nice place to spend a two-year tour, and that everything there is made of chocolate.

[Voran]

I tend to think the Japanese are the best. Mostly cause I think they have ninjas and mechs.

[Deamon_Knight]

Yea, Vicious Germans? Why would anyone have that misconception?

[hyzmarca]

[SL James]

Well, using that rationale I can say that the Ethiopeans have the best program because I've never seen an American news program criticize their police or spec ops, either.

Actually, come to think of it, I've never heard them criticize the North Koreans' either. Their government, sure, but not for the quality of their cops or spec ops.

[ShadowDragon8685]

Rationale or not, I can say that I've always thought the GSG-9 were supposed to be some of the most bad-ass mother-fuckers on the planet, easily comparable with Navy SEALs or Special Operations commandos. Where I got that impression? Don't ask, I dunno.

[Kagetenshi]

[Grinder]