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How close was MI3 to the feel of Shadowrun
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post May 5 2006, 09:40 AM
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I just got to see MI3 and it was awesome. I was watching it the entire time thinking, "this is Shadowrun".
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post May 5 2006, 09:54 AM
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so, ruin it for me: was it a well-plotted surprisefest like the first one, or a vaguely silly actionfest like the second? if it's like the first one, i'll definitely agree that it's SRish.
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post May 5 2006, 10:59 AM
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I have seen it yesterday, and yeah, it definitely had sr-ish elements

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post May 5 2006, 12:13 PM
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QUOTE (markusb @ May 5 2006, 12:59 PM)
And the nicest thing: they are speaking german! The whole scene just screamed S-K black ops to me, it was just so german-efficiently and german-ruthlessly done.

There haven't been a lot of countries invaded by German troops in the last 60 years. Actually not a single one if we do ignore Serbia, which was an air defence suppression mission only. So I don't see what kind of ruthlessnes you are talking about. I'm sorry, but sometimes I get annoyed by WWII references. Todays German weapon of choice is called diplomacy.
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post May 5 2006, 01:02 PM
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I didn't even think of anything ww2 (or any war, come to think of it) related, chill out.

I meant german-ruthless as Saeder Krupp under Lofwyr's command is ruthless in Shadowrun
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post May 5 2006, 02:32 PM
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...

*re-reads markusb's post*

...

Wow.

*makes a note to never see this movie*

This makes Alias seem plausible.
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post May 5 2006, 03:03 PM
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QUOTE (Oracle)
Todays German weapon of choice is called diplomacy.

Are you kidding? Diplomacy is the most ruthless weapon of them all.

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post May 5 2006, 03:25 PM
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;)
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post May 5 2006, 05:09 PM
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QUOTE (Kagetenshi)
QUOTE (Oracle @ May 5 2006, 07:13 AM)
Todays German weapon of choice is called diplomacy.

Are you kidding? Diplomacy is the most ruthless weapon of them all.

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and Ruthlessly Efficient Diplomacy is what makes Germany King!
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post May 5 2006, 05:26 PM
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I thought it was the conception of the Euro?
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post May 5 2006, 05:37 PM
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Good joke - the actually increased the price of nearly everything here in Germany (some products doubled in price). must be plan of the French then... bloody French...

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post May 5 2006, 05:44 PM
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which was created through???
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post May 5 2006, 06:07 PM
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Yeah, a lot of French people don't really care for Germans, either: they're still a little mad about the whole "invasion" thing. I remember when I was in France as an exchange student, and my host family was going to take me to visit this couple they were friends with. The day before the visit, my host mother warned me, "You should know, Monsieur So-And-So doesn't really like German people." I thanked her for letting me know that, but couldn't see what it had to with me personally.

The next day we went to see the couple, and Madame So-And-So greeted us at the door. "This is the American?" she asked. "But you look so German!" When she said that, my first reaction was "I do?"--I knew that I have lots of German ancestry on both sides of my family, but had never thought of myself as looking like anything but a white Caucasian person. My next reaction was to freak out just a little bit; I was afraid that Monsieur So-And-So would assume that I was some kind of covert agent sent by the SS to scout out his home or something. Fortunately, he ended up being quite pleasant to me, although one of his fluffy cats was quite snotty towards me.
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post May 5 2006, 06:42 PM
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QUOTE (Kremlin KOA)
which was created through???

The devil hmself!
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post May 5 2006, 06:55 PM
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So only the cat saw through your SS disguise? Good for him! :)
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post May 5 2006, 09:38 PM
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QUOTE (Oracle)
QUOTE (markusb @ May 5 2006, 12:59 PM)
And the nicest thing: they are speaking german! The whole scene just screamed S-K black ops to me, it was just so german-efficiently and german-ruthlessly done.

There haven't been a lot of countries invaded by German troops in the last 60 years. Actually not a single one if we do ignore Serbia, which was an air defence suppression mission only. So I don't see what kind of ruthlessnes you are talking about. I'm sorry, but sometimes I get annoyed by WWII references. Todays German weapon of choice is called diplomacy.

There is a perception, at least in the United States, that Germany today has some of the most kick-ass military and paramilitary anti-terrorist forces in the world, comparable in efficiency and ruthlessness to the israeli Mossad but not nearly as much of a loose-cannon.
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post May 5 2006, 09:54 PM
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When did we get that impression?

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post May 5 2006, 11:26 PM
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we think that? i dunno, i actually don't pay much attention to worldwide badass specops teams. i know it's supposed to be a pretty nice place to spend a two-year tour, and that everything there is made of chocolate.
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post May 6 2006, 12:40 AM
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I tend to think the Japanese are the best. Mostly cause I think they have ninjas and mechs.
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post May 6 2006, 03:23 AM
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Yea, Vicious Germans? Why would anyone have that misconception?
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post May 6 2006, 03:41 AM
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QUOTE (Kagetenshi @ May 5 2006, 04:54 PM)
When did we get that impression?

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Have you ever seen an American news program that criticizes German police or spec ops? I certainly haven't. Every time I see a news program that mentions German law enforcement (which is quite rarely) they are presented as mysterious, efficient, and badass.
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post May 6 2006, 04:54 AM
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Well, using that rationale I can say that the Ethiopeans have the best program because I've never seen an American news program criticize their police or spec ops, either.

Actually, come to think of it, I've never heard them criticize the North Koreans' either. Their government, sure, but not for the quality of their cops or spec ops.
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post May 6 2006, 05:17 AM
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Rationale or not, I can say that I've always thought the GSG-9 were supposed to be some of the most bad-ass mother-fuckers on the planet, easily comparable with Navy SEALs or Special Operations commandos. Where I got that impression? Don't ask, I dunno.
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post May 6 2006, 07:32 AM
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QUOTE (hyzmarca)
Have you ever seen an American news program that criticizes German police or spec ops?

Very much so, though from the '70s so things could well have changed.

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post May 6 2006, 07:48 AM
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QUOTE (mfb)
and that everything there is made of chocolate.

That's Switzerland ;)

We are the beer nation.

About our police/ spec-op: you won't see much reports/ news about GSG-9 or KSK, but I heard that they're good trained.
Our regular police is mentioned more often, mostly in news reagarding strikes of them - they're underpaid, understaffed and overworked.
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