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 May 10 2006, 06:06 PM
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Dragon  Group: Members Posts: 4,589 Joined: 28-November 05 Member No.: 8,019  |
How big is it in other countries, like Japan or Germany? I know Germany gets its sourcebooks out first; what about Japan? I mean, there was a Sega CD game for Shadowrun that was probably much more Shadowrunny than any other Shadowrun video game, but that was only released in Japan.
Does the Japanese version of the sourcebooks downplay the Japanese corporate evil, and is there a Japanese version of the sourcebooks at all? |
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May 10 2006, 06:41 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,314 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Lisbon, Cidade do Pecado Member No.: 185 |
Germany does not get its books out first, distribution is just more centralized than in the US and it takes less time between the book leaving the publisher's warehouse and reaching local stores. All but one book the FanPro D releases every year is a translation of the English original.
That being said, SR is very big in Germany, ranking third most played from what I've heard (following FanPro's Dark Eye and WW's Vampire). There is a relatively big fan community in France which has led to Black Box picking up the defunct license from the previous SR licensee (Jeux Descartes) and get on the bandwagon with SR4, and a smaller but rabid one in the UK. There are a lot of players in Western and Eastern Europe though distribution and availability were issues until the pdfs started coming out. The new japanese license is exactly that, "new". There was much-talked -about mangaized adaptation of Shadowrun (with some significant setting changes - like no xenophobic antimeta Japanese, no big bad Japanese Imperial State and definitely no Yomi) during the early 90s by the previous license holder. Only the core book and a couple of releases came out, all significantly "adapted" to suit the percieved Japanese audience. The line was canceled early on. However, a hardcore fanbase in Japan who set up the JIS project (iirc) online in an attempt to create an official setting that integrated SR canon. The new license will entail translation rather than adaptation, and possibly some Japanese specific releases (such as are also in the plans for France). |
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May 10 2006, 07:47 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,150 Joined: 19-December 05 From: Rhein-Ruhr Megaplex Member No.: 8,081 |
Germany gets the first SR4 sourcebook out (München Noir, about Munich, Bavaria) but that's hardly the norm ;). And we get a beefed up Hamburg section in Runner Havens.
The biggest RPG in germany is Fanpro's Dark Eye (which is quite fantastic :love: ). I don't know about Vampire, I actually don't know anyone (personally) who admits to ever have played that. Shadowrun might very well be the 3rd played RPG. D&D and relatives never took that much ground, except as computer games. We like to game. Richard Garfield said so (you know, the magic guy. He envied us ;) ). |
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May 10 2006, 08:55 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 976 Joined: 16-September 04 From: Near my daughters, Lansdale PA Member No.: 6,668 |
I have no idea how big or if it even exists it is in japan. Just not soemthing I can easily bring up with my grandfather.
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May 10 2006, 09:15 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 142 Joined: 29-March 06 From: Quebec, Canada Member No.: 8,415 |
The shame!!! Shameless germans! D&D as minor thing?!? HEATHENS! SLAY THEM ALL!! ;) At least, the Dark Eye seems nice. For Japan, I guess that the rpg scene feel uneasy about the Imperial Japan State, maybe (like me and that rather inccorect Quebec - who sounds like it was written by a radical anglo). But then, japaneses are not so much fans of TABLETOP rpg in general, due to the constrained student and sararyman life |
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May 10 2006, 09:49 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 858 Joined: 25-August 03 From: Braunschweig, North German League, Allied German States Member No.: 5,537 |
It don't even know when the first German translation of D&D was published... But when Dark Eye was released in 1984 it quickly spread - it was developed by FanPro but published by Schmidt Spiele (now defunct but in those days a well-known producer of board games etc.) which meant Dark Eye stuff could be found not only in book or hobby game stores but in most toy stores throughout Germany, toy sections of shopping centers etc. (There is actually one older original German fantasy RPG, Midgard, first pusblished in 1980. It is still alive and has a well developed fan-base but it has never reached Dark Eye's status among German gamers.) |
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May 10 2006, 09:56 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 23 Joined: 27-August 05 From: In the ruins of Clermont-Ferrand Member No.: 7,629 |
Not only Germany, L'Oeuil Noir came in France too through Schmidt, in almost all the game stores ( and not the specialized RPG game ones..... in places like Toy'R'Us ).
It was somewere in mid 80, a little bit after D&D ( Basic Set ) had been translated, and IIRC it was quite a hit. |
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May 10 2006, 09:57 PM
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Incertum est quo loco te mors expectet; Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,546 Joined: 24-October 03 From: DeeCee, U.S. Member No.: 5,760 |
Ah, good taste in beer AND RPGs! Sometimes I think it a shame Germany didn't manage to conquer the world. |
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May 10 2006, 10:19 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 142 Joined: 29-March 06 From: Quebec, Canada Member No.: 8,415 |
Seriously, btw - You know, peoples play D&D. Like it. Think it's good. Maybe it's time to stop a certain elitism rampant and admit that we have all our tastes? (at least, Shadowrun fans seems less rabid than WoD on that aspect) |
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May 10 2006, 10:23 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 684 Joined: 8-April 06 From: My dorm room Member No.: 8,438 |
I know what you mean, nezumi, but please don't even joke about that. :(
I wonder if I should try and see if I can get ahold of some French sourcebooks; it could be useful when I graduate to GMing and want to send my players on a car chase through La Défense or smuggling goods across the Pyrénées or something. |
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May 10 2006, 10:24 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 208 Joined: 3-May 06 From: On the Run Member No.: 8,521 |
Only if you keep those damn 3etards... umm, I mean those 3e D&D players from doing the same to me for my 1e AD&D games. :P |
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May 10 2006, 10:26 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 142 Joined: 29-March 06 From: Quebec, Canada Member No.: 8,415 |
Still using that, dinosaur? Forget nostalgia, come hither! *back to joking mode* :D :cyber: |
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May 10 2006, 10:33 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 208 Joined: 3-May 06 From: On the Run Member No.: 8,521 |
Heh.
Yeah I'm still using 1e - didn't like the production quality on the 2e book and ran away screaming from 3e. /derail Anyways - Since Germany is getting an expanded section on Hamburg, are the US folks getting an expanded section on Seattle? Or would that more in line with a DS community project? |
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May 11 2006, 01:03 AM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,577 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gwynedd Valley PA Member No.: 1,221 |
Why? His english is getting much better. |
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May 11 2006, 04:55 AM
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Uncle Fisty Group: Admin Posts: 13,891 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 |
I'm so proud of you. All hail the monk Grandmaster of Flowers and his Quivering Palm. Really, first edition was awesome, but some of the names and titles.... :D |
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May 11 2006, 05:51 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 858 Joined: 25-August 03 From: Braunschweig, North German League, Allied German States Member No.: 5,537 |
Nope. Runner Havens - Detailed info: (1) Hong Kong, (2) Seattle - Basic info: (1) Hamburg, (2) Cape Town, (3) Caracas Schattenstädte - Detailed info: (1) Hong Kong, (2) Seattle, (3) Hamburg - Basic info: (1) Cape Town, (2) Caracas As in the past the added German info is meant as an incentive for German gamers to wait some more months and buy the German translation instead of the English original (translation costs money which would be lost if everybody buys the original version instead). |
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May 11 2006, 09:02 AM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
You never played The Dark Eye? :D |
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May 11 2006, 09:23 AM
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Mystery Archaeologist Group: Members Posts: 2,906 Joined: 19-September 05 From: The apple tree Member No.: 7,760 |
I thought Istanbul was in cluded in brief in runner havens.
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May 11 2006, 09:33 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,590 Joined: 11-September 04 Member No.: 6,650 |
Nah that was constantinople
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May 11 2006, 09:39 AM
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Mystery Archaeologist Group: Members Posts: 2,906 Joined: 19-September 05 From: The apple tree Member No.: 7,760 |
But noone nows the difference but the Turks...
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May 11 2006, 01:19 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Validating Posts: 1,618 Joined: 29-January 03 From: Montevideo, Uruguay. Member No.: 3,992 |
(4) Istanbul |
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May 11 2006, 01:56 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,718 Joined: 14-September 02 Member No.: 3,263 |
Not Constantinople?
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May 11 2006, 02:04 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 858 Joined: 25-August 03 From: Braunschweig, North German League, Allied German States Member No.: 5,537 |
I knew I forgot something... :D |
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May 11 2006, 09:08 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,314 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Lisbon, Cidade do Pecado Member No.: 185 |
Now there's a story... |
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May 12 2006, 01:37 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 1 Joined: 13-January 06 Member No.: 8,157 |
But I have a date in Constantinople ! |
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