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SL James
post May 12 2006, 01:38 AM
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Oh, God... They won?!
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post May 12 2006, 02:44 AM
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Not Constantinople?

Istanbul was Constantinople once...
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post May 12 2006, 03:02 AM
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Yeah, but I don't think it's called Istanbul in RH and Constantinople in SoA without a reason.
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post May 12 2006, 03:15 AM
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QUOTE (CorvusCoronoides @ May 11 2006, 08:37 PM)
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Not Constantinople?


But I have a date in Constantinople !

She'll be waiting in Istanbul ;)
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post May 12 2006, 03:29 AM
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Is the Dark Eye any good? And why does D&D suck, outside of the randomized stats, the set classes, and the linear stat advancement?
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post May 12 2006, 04:05 AM
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That place is Istanbul AND Constantinople
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post May 12 2006, 09:15 AM
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QUOTE (emo samurai)
Is the Dark Eye any good?

The rules are nice imo, but the setting sucks. They tried to pack everything into a mid-sized european country, Renaissance, Middle Age, Barbarians, Elves (which are close to unplayable) etcpp.

And most of the players are rulelawyers and narrow minded about new ideas - that's at least the impression I have after some years and different gaming groups.

No real combat magic is another major flaw.
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post May 12 2006, 10:59 AM
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Dark Eye has no Combat Magic??? What about the famous 'Fulminictus Donnerkeil' and 'Ignifaxius Flammenstrahl' spells? :)

I'm not playing Dark Eye, because I don't like the background for the reasons told by Grinder. But obviously it appeals to a lot of people.
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post May 12 2006, 11:42 AM
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Oh, God... They won?!

Not quite. Let's just say that renaming it was a statement and that statement no longer makes sense (or it's becoming strategically "convenient" to play up other aspects of the city's heritage)...
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post May 12 2006, 03:16 PM
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QUOTE (Daddy's Little Ninja @ May 10 2006, 03:55 PM)
I have no idea how big or if it even exists it is in Japan. Just not something I can easily bring up with my grandfather.

Why? His english is getting much better.

Grandfather already thinks you are a little weird. Let's not add to that.
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post May 12 2006, 03:35 PM
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That place is Istanbul AND Constantinople

Can't we just compromise and go back to calling it Byzantium?
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post May 12 2006, 04:11 PM
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Constantinople is Istanbul! OK, some places in that city is more Constantinople than Istanbul and some places are more Istanbul than C. But what's a little difference between monotheistic religions?
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post May 12 2006, 04:23 PM
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Nothing a little inquisition and lots of fire won't be able to solve.
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post May 12 2006, 09:15 PM
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The new japanese license is exactly that, "new".

There was much-talked -about mangaized adaptation of Shadowrun (with some significant setting changes - like no xenophobic antimeta Japanese, no big bad Japanese Imperial State and definitely no Yomi) during the early 90s by the previous license holder. Only the core book and a couple of releases came out, all significantly "adapted" to suit the percieved Japanese audience. The line was canceled early on. However, a hardcore fanbase in Japan who set up the JIS project (iirc) online in an attempt to create an official setting that integrated SR canon. The new license will entail translation rather than adaptation, and possibly some Japanese specific releases (such as are also in the plans for France).

Yes, SR2 was translated by "Group SNE", a major group of game writers. And it is true SR Tokyo by them are like you describe.

But, in my opinion, a schism in Japanese SR fans, not Japanese SR productions, is the biggest problem. With many factors, old fans tended to despise the newers and new fans tended to feel the olders are annoy. Group SNE translated SSC and Grimoire(I heard so at a major event), but couldn't publish them.

"the JIS project" tried to follow FASA Canon, but failed. And since the writer is a hardliner older, no little fans hate it.

Once, SR had many Japanse fans. Now, without news of Japanese SR4, only a few play SR(whether Japanese SR2 or English SR4).
I hope the news will breathe the hope into them and potential players.





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post May 12 2006, 10:27 PM
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QUOTE (SL James)
Yeah, but I don't think it's called Istanbul in RH and Constantinople in SoA without a reason.

Eh.
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post May 12 2006, 10:32 PM
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I wonder if I should try and see if I can get ahold of some French sourcebooks; it could be useful when I graduate to GMing and want to send my players on a car chase through La Défense or smuggling goods across the Pyrénées or something.


You won't find many (and the one you could find now is a rather scary thing), but give us sometime... ;)
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post May 12 2006, 10:36 PM
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In germany, D&D is clearly (and by a wide margin) the most wide-spread RPG (just like everywhere else).

Even the FanPro-affiliated shop near the german FanPro headquarter has more D&D products than DSA products on the shelves. That should say enough. ;)

I'd say, that DSA (Das Schwarze Auge/The Dark Eye) ranks in on 2nd place, followed by WoD and SR.

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post May 12 2006, 10:50 PM
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It don't even know when the first German translation of D&D was published...

1983

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post May 12 2006, 11:19 PM
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QUOTE (Synner)
QUOTE (SL James @ May 12 2006, 01:38 AM)
Oh, God... They won?!

Not quite. Let's just say that renaming it was a statement and that statement no longer makes sense (or it's becoming strategically "convenient" to play up other aspects of the city's heritage)...

Lame.
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post May 13 2006, 09:21 AM
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QUOTE (SL James @ May 12 2006, 11:19 PM)
QUOTE (Synner @ May 12 2006, 05:42 AM)
QUOTE (SL James @ May 12 2006, 01:38 AM)
Oh, God... They won?!

Not quite. Let's just say that renaming it was a statement and that statement no longer makes sense (or it's becoming strategically "convenient" to play up other aspects of the city's heritage)...

Lame.

As so many people have thoughtfully pointed out it's only been 5 years since the Crash 2.0 and it takes a little time to rebuild and get the ball rolling again.

But the editorial reason is probably that FanPro thinks its better to give anyone interested the chance to play a hand (however minor) in the unfolding events rather than present the situation as a fait accompli. ..
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post May 13 2006, 03:29 PM
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QUOTE (Oracle @ May 12 2006, 11:59 AM)
Dark Eye has no Combat Magic??? What about the famous 'Fulminictus Donnerkeil' and 'Ignifaxius Flammenstrahl' spells? :)

You can't cause more damage then your current astral spell points are. That's far away from "combat magic".

QUOTE (Oracle @ May 12 2006, 11:59 AM)

I'm not playing Dark Eye, because I don't like the background for the reasons told by Grinder. But obviously it appeals to a lot of people.


It's scaring - seems that Germany has many rules-lawyers...
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post May 13 2006, 05:28 PM
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QUOTE (Grinder)
QUOTE (Oracle @ May 12 2006, 11:59 AM)

I'm not playing Dark Eye, because I don't like the background for the reasons told by Grinder. But obviously it appeals to a lot of people.


It's scaring - seems that Germany has many rules-lawyers...

na, we have no more rule-lawyers then any other country has.

:P

From my experience i'd say DSA (Dark eye) is the most played RPG in Germany, followed by the whole World-Of-Darkness stuff (Vampire + Werewolf, though i personally hate Vampire). SR is almost as much liked as WoD, depending on where exactly you're from.

After that we have Cthulhu, (A)D&D and all the other systems.


Gee, finally stopped lurking around and started writing ^_^


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