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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 714 Joined: 26-February 02 From: .nl Member No.: 116 ![]() |
Hey, it looks kind of interesting. It's just not Shadowrun. :) |
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,590 Joined: 11-September 04 Member No.: 6,650 ![]() |
Yeah Nobody gets treat spells twith that many successes
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 58 Joined: 9-May 06 From: Right behind you! Member No.: 8,538 ![]() |
Plus I thought I saw a teleport... which is blatantly against the very short list of things magic can't do in the books.
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 ![]() |
yep. it actually mentions teleporting in the 'history'.
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 58 Joined: 9-May 06 From: Right behind you! Member No.: 8,538 ![]() |
Well, when you think about it... teleporting of various types is strongly established as something that magic can do in video games, heck even technology can often do it (translocator, anyone?). That doesn't mean that it's excusable (Off the top of my head, I can't think of many spells that would be difficult to impliment in the game world. The emotion-based ones, perhaps, stuff like mob mood or detect emotions, plus anything that dealt strictly with nonvisual nonaudio senses), there is no shortage of utility spells in the game that don't violate any of the rules of the game. I'm just saying I can see where they're coming from.
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 ![]() |
they're coming from the land of people who crap on licenses in exchange for money. how i hate that land.
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Karma Police ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,358 Joined: 22-July 04 From: Gothenburg, SE Member No.: 6,505 ![]() |
Yeah, that land sucks. It's a land of untalanted people who are also stupid. The land of people who make good stuff that respects licenses is a much better place, and they make more money too.
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#33
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 9 Joined: 9-April 06 From: Deep in the Rockies Member No.: 8,444 ![]() |
:eek: holy fuck. And here I thought someone just might be able to make a decent game off of the SR license. Remember the old Genesis SR? Truth be told, if they would just call it something else, I'd buy it.
And on a side note, I'm going to go download the SR ROM again. 8) |
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#34
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Manus Celer Dei ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,013 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 ![]() |
Really? I visited the place, and found a half-dozen abandoned shacks and a corpse. Well, and Peter Jackson's palace. Though he lives on the far border, and at least part of his palace is outside of the land. ~J |
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Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,718 Joined: 14-September 02 Member No.: 3,263 ![]() |
So you are inclined to think it might be a decent game. Just not a decent Shadowrun representation? |
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Old Man Jones ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,415 Joined: 26-February 02 From: New York Member No.: 1,699 ![]() |
Holy crap those graphics are terrible.
Maybe a few years ago that might have been acceptable in a video game cutscene, but today? Plus, yes, it's not Shadowrun. -karma |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 164 Joined: 7-July 03 Member No.: 4,891 ![]() |
Wait, what? What would be the point of that? |
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#38
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 225 Joined: 1-November 05 Member No.: 7,917 ![]() |
Blech...that video shatters my hopes and dreams
I think that's actually supposed to be a dropped invisibility spell, there is a walking path up to the platform. Still, I think they're convinced it will only sell to 14 year olds UPDATE: A friend of mine showed the the in-game video and that DOES look like a teleport...sadness... |
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Shadowrun Setting Nerd ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Banned Posts: 3,632 Joined: 28-June 05 From: Pissing on pedestrians from my electronic ivory tower. Member No.: 7,473 ![]() |
Evil is a fickle thing. |
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panda! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 ![]() |
hmm, while it was a interesting video, it was all CGI and therefor not representative of the game at all. and the CGI smelled more team fortress or counterstrike then it did a RPG of any kind.
the story is out there, the gameplay i fear will be out there, its dead on arrival. talk about abusing a golden oportunity, shame on you fasa and microsoft... |
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Shadowrun Setting Nerd ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Banned Posts: 3,632 Joined: 28-June 05 From: Pissing on pedestrians from my electronic ivory tower. Member No.: 7,473 ![]() |
Oh, and besides that - who said I was on the same team as anyone else here?
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#42
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 681 Joined: 28-February 06 From: UK Member No.: 8,319 ![]() |
Maybe we can pretend that it's not the Shadowrun world, but is a Matrix game within the Shadowrun world! ;)
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#43
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Manus Celer Dei ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,013 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 ![]() |
I did. You will spend an eternity with them.
~Satan Postscript: Witness, we can already do that with better games. Look, I'm playing the original Doom inside an emulator on the Matrix! Isn't this so much more fun? |
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Karma Police ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,358 Joined: 22-July 04 From: Gothenburg, SE Member No.: 6,505 ![]() |
Kagetenchi: Sam Raimi has a pretty nice shack over there too, I believe. And the folks at Bioware and a few more. There's not many of them, but in all cases were a product made off a license has been wildly successful AND criticly acclaimed, it's been a faithful and loving adaption. <edit> That is to say: Making shit is easy and can make you money. But you need to make something good to make a classic, and if you do you will obviously make even more money.
SL James: That was a bit of a stretch I had to include to make my analogy work. |
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Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,718 Joined: 14-September 02 Member No.: 3,263 ![]() |
@Kagetenshi
But are you going to be going up against someone named Karl Combatmage in Doom? ;) And there will be players in the game that are aware enough of SR to use that name. Once again i remind you that DSF is the extreme end of the spectrum of getting hung up on canon with an inability or unwillingness to set it aside to just go have fun. |
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Karma Police ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,358 Joined: 22-July 04 From: Gothenburg, SE Member No.: 6,505 ![]() |
Haha. That's the first prospect about this game that has intrigued me. |
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Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,718 Joined: 14-September 02 Member No.: 3,263 ![]() |
Why to sell you stuff of course. :) You can buy things from other people, and Microsoft too i think, in LiveBucks or whatever they call their currency. Even when you are buying stuff from a 3rd party Microsoft is making money on the seigniorage. Plus they can use it as an advertising medium with a tightly focused market. People that own an XBox/Xbox360 and have an internet connection for it. |
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 9 Joined: 9-April 06 From: Deep in the Rockies Member No.: 8,444 ![]() |
I am inclined to believe that it will be a decent game, and it might be a spectacular game, however IMHO with the current information available for it, it won't be an accurate representation of SR at all. |
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Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,718 Joined: 14-September 02 Member No.: 3,263 ![]() |
...and for that sole reason you would not buy and play the game? Now -there- is an opinion that Microsoft/FASA might take heed of. It isn't going to change dick-squat in this game they end up shipping. But at least they might actually notice it.
Because really the license was long 'paid' for and any good will of note was likely written off by some accounting department somewhere. It is like a free license, and with no pesty licensor wanting to vette the game concept or details. But if they actually thought it was -costing- them sales, then they'd take notice. Right now the vast majority of the reactions i'm seeing is that it really isn't costing them anything at all to use the Shadowrun name on this game they were likely going to create in some form anyway. |
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Manus Celer Dei ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,013 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 ![]() |
Maybe athros sees something in the game that I don't, or maybe I'm really just blinded with rage by what they're calling "Shadowrun", but you're right—using the Shadowrun name on a game as bad as it looks to me like this one will be is indeed not doing anything the game itself wouldn't have done.
Of course, the fact that I've got a strict (though broken exactly once) rule against buying Windows games and don't plan to ever own an XBox of any form means they'd already lost me. What I can do, though, is encourage other people not to buy the game. ~J |
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