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post May 11 2006, 08:10 AM
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Shadowrun Game movie from E3

I feel physically ill.

Hey, it looks kind of interesting. It's just not Shadowrun. :)
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post May 11 2006, 09:07 AM
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Yeah Nobody gets treat spells twith that many successes
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post May 11 2006, 09:32 AM
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Plus I thought I saw a teleport... which is blatantly against the very short list of things magic can't do in the books.
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post May 11 2006, 09:40 AM
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yep. it actually mentions teleporting in the 'history'.
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post May 11 2006, 10:02 AM
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Well, when you think about it... teleporting of various types is strongly established as something that magic can do in video games, heck even technology can often do it (translocator, anyone?). That doesn't mean that it's excusable (Off the top of my head, I can't think of many spells that would be difficult to impliment in the game world. The emotion-based ones, perhaps, stuff like mob mood or detect emotions, plus anything that dealt strictly with nonvisual nonaudio senses), there is no shortage of utility spells in the game that don't violate any of the rules of the game. I'm just saying I can see where they're coming from.
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post May 11 2006, 10:18 AM
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they're coming from the land of people who crap on licenses in exchange for money. how i hate that land.
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post May 11 2006, 12:23 PM
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Yeah, that land sucks. It's a land of untalanted people who are also stupid. The land of people who make good stuff that respects licenses is a much better place, and they make more money too.
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post May 11 2006, 03:30 PM
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:eek: holy fuck. And here I thought someone just might be able to make a decent game off of the SR license. Remember the old Genesis SR? Truth be told, if they would just call it something else, I'd buy it.
And on a side note, I'm going to go download the SR ROM again. 8)
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post May 11 2006, 03:33 PM
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QUOTE (mintcar @ May 11 2006, 07:23 AM)
The land of people who make good stuff that respects licenses is a much better place, and they make more money too.

Really? I visited the place, and found a half-dozen abandoned shacks and a corpse.

Well, and Peter Jackson's palace. Though he lives on the far border, and at least part of his palace is outside of the land.

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post May 11 2006, 03:40 PM
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Truth be told, if they would just call it something else, I'd buy it.

So you are inclined to think it might be a decent game. Just not a decent Shadowrun representation?
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post May 11 2006, 04:05 PM
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Holy crap those graphics are terrible.

Maybe a few years ago that might have been acceptable in a video game cutscene, but today?

Plus, yes, it's not Shadowrun.


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post May 11 2006, 04:10 PM
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blakkie: there is a free version of Live (Silver), but it does not allow access to online play.

Wait, what? What would be the point of that?
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post May 11 2006, 04:22 PM
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Blech...that video shatters my hopes and dreams

I think that's actually supposed to be a dropped invisibility spell, there is a walking path up to the platform. Still, I think they're convinced it will only sell to 14 year olds

UPDATE: A friend of mine showed the the in-game video and that DOES look like a teleport...sadness...
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post May 11 2006, 04:31 PM
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SL James; the flaming ball of pure hatred, is a powerful but fickle runner to have on your team. He will often demonstrate his ferosiousness by beating up his team members and showing no mercy to pedestrians and passer bys, but in the face of a true enemy he will stand back to laugh at the other team members when they fight in vain against impossible odds. :P

Evil is a fickle thing.
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post May 11 2006, 04:55 PM
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hmm, while it was a interesting video, it was all CGI and therefor not representative of the game at all. and the CGI smelled more team fortress or counterstrike then it did a RPG of any kind.

the story is out there, the gameplay i fear will be out there, its dead on arrival. talk about abusing a golden oportunity, shame on you fasa and microsoft...
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post May 11 2006, 04:59 PM
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Oh, and besides that - who said I was on the same team as anyone else here?
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post May 11 2006, 05:21 PM
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Maybe we can pretend that it's not the Shadowrun world, but is a Matrix game within the Shadowrun world! ;)
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post May 11 2006, 05:22 PM
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Postscript: Witness, we can already do that with better games. Look, I'm playing the original Doom inside an emulator on the Matrix! Isn't this so much more fun?
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post May 11 2006, 05:27 PM
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Kagetenchi: Sam Raimi has a pretty nice shack over there too, I believe. And the folks at Bioware and a few more. There's not many of them, but in all cases were a product made off a license has been wildly successful AND criticly acclaimed, it's been a faithful and loving adaption. <edit> That is to say: Making shit is easy and can make you money. But you need to make something good to make a classic, and if you do you will obviously make even more money.

SL James: That was a bit of a stretch I had to include to make my analogy work.
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post May 11 2006, 05:28 PM
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@Kagetenshi

But are you going to be going up against someone named Karl Combatmage in Doom? ;)

And there will be players in the game that are aware enough of SR to use that name. Once again i remind you that DSF is the extreme end of the spectrum of getting hung up on canon with an inability or unwillingness to set it aside to just go have fun.
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post May 11 2006, 05:32 PM
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But are you going to be going up against someone named Karl Combatmage in Doom? ;)

And there will be players in the game that are aware enough of SR to use that name. Once again i remind you that DSF is the extreme end of the spectrum of getting hung up on canon with an inability or unwillingness to set it aside to just go have fun.

Haha. That's the first prospect about this game that has intrigued me.
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post May 11 2006, 05:35 PM
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QUOTE (Taran @ May 11 2006, 10:10 AM)
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blakkie: there is a free version of Live (Silver), but it does not allow access to online play.

Wait, what? What would be the point of that?

Why to sell you stuff of course. :) You can buy things from other people, and Microsoft too i think, in LiveBucks or whatever they call their currency. Even when you are buying stuff from a 3rd party Microsoft is making money on the seigniorage.

Plus they can use it as an advertising medium with a tightly focused market. People that own an XBox/Xbox360 and have an internet connection for it.
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post May 11 2006, 05:39 PM
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QUOTE (athros @ May 11 2006, 09:30 AM)
Truth be told, if they would just call it something else, I'd buy it.

So you are inclined to think it might be a decent game. Just not a decent Shadowrun representation?

I am inclined to believe that it will be a decent game, and it might be a spectacular game, however IMHO with the current information available for it, it won't be an accurate representation of SR at all.
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post May 11 2006, 05:44 PM
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...and for that sole reason you would not buy and play the game? Now -there- is an opinion that Microsoft/FASA might take heed of. It isn't going to change dick-squat in this game they end up shipping. But at least they might actually notice it.

Because really the license was long 'paid' for and any good will of note was likely written off by some accounting department somewhere. It is like a free license, and with no pesty licensor wanting to vette the game concept or details. But if they actually thought it was -costing- them sales, then they'd take notice. Right now the vast majority of the reactions i'm seeing is that it really isn't costing them anything at all to use the Shadowrun name on this game they were likely going to create in some form anyway.
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post May 11 2006, 05:55 PM
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Maybe athros sees something in the game that I don't, or maybe I'm really just blinded with rage by what they're calling "Shadowrun", but you're right—using the Shadowrun name on a game as bad as it looks to me like this one will be is indeed not doing anything the game itself wouldn't have done.

Of course, the fact that I've got a strict (though broken exactly once) rule against buying Windows games and don't plan to ever own an XBox of any form means they'd already lost me. What I can do, though, is encourage other people not to buy the game.

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