[X] My Assistant

[hyzmarca]

I don't know about old Adolph but it is canon that Alachia was Eva Braun-Hitler. She was also at least one Queen Elizibeth, possibly both.

She certainly has some issues and megalomania is among them. Not being about to reliably judge the soundness of her ideas is another. Certainly, annoyone with sense could have seen how stupid a wooden kaer is. Likewise, anyone with sense could see how stupid a military invasion of Russia was.

[Kanada Ten]

Yeah, she's a few wooden screws loose, lost most her marbles over the years, and ahe isn't even playing with the same deck much less a full one.

[PenAgain]

You overlook a very grim possibility regarding Alachia's belief in the Wooden Kaer: I don't think it was mental instability so much as it was cold-hearted calculation.

How do we know that she didn't get exactly what she wanted? The defiling of Wyrm Wood was extremely detrimental to the only real enemy Alachia ever had in the Fourth World... Alamais (dear old Dad...). All she had to do was sacrifice a large percentage of her citizenry (who she had no love for anyway) and take up a nasty blemish that (her memory likely told her) would fade away as the magic level fell. The thorn curse was an inconvenience for her-- nothing more. Oh, and an excuse to be bitchy. It helped her more clearly delineate the difference between her first and second reign over the Wood also.

It didn't even interfere with her psychotically-magically enhanced personal beauty.

--PenAgain
Big props for Alachia (who, yes, could be Eva-- which is why I like to linger on Adolph-possibilities instead)

[SL James]

[headfirst-for-ha...]

uggh...idea overload. I never thought of using concentration camps as astral spots. I think I am going to have to rework some stuff to include some of the new ideas. If I get it right this will be an excellent introduction to shadowrun for my friends. Maybe throw in a dash of all of this having to do with Dunkhelzahns will! Ok then that would get to weird. Random thought if I reworked it to include dragons a weird title would be " Her der ve Draguns" lol. Wonder if their would be astral signatures still visible from the concentration camps. Does anyone in 2065 still know about WW2? anyway bell rang. Back to class.

[FanGirl]

I ran "Here there be Dragons" into a translator program and got "Hier gibt es Drachen." I have no idea whether that's correct, but meh.

[PenAgain]

Not yet having Shadows of Europe (or a decent familarity with the German sourcebook material) I am no help on the matter of if or if not the astral pollution from the C. Camps would still stand. I would imagine that it would, however. It was a World War, and one that had some dramatic effects on the shape of human destiny for a good long while.

My guess would be that the astral corruption will have diminished, but would serve as an excellent foundation for starting over (especially in light of all of the failed bridge-building attempts by those on this side of the Atlantic pond). Perhaps by hiring runners to accumulate toxic or corrupt artifacts and stockpiling them at the site of a Camp, stirring up the Astral dust, so to speak.

Bah. Europe. My least successful SR games always end up in Europe. I'm a Seattle-ite.

Could Immortal Elf Hitler have been placed in the US Government during the early US' Amerindian relocations and reservation movements? One of SR's generally overlooked themes is its strong Amerindian influence... and it would be cool to tie them into all of this (and helping you to connect your game across continents, if you feel so inclined.)

Rambles! One thing to remember in an Immortal Adolph campaign- as an IE, he is a global-class schemer... the more complex his plot, the more Immortal he'll come across as. Yeah, I know, immortal is an absolute adjective, but hopefully I'm making some shape of sense here.

--PenAgain

[The ubbergeek]

The death camps have a rather high negative background and one was sealed by a band of catholic monks, I think (with jewish mystics?).

[SL James]

Catholic priests. The Sylvestrines. It's a town called Oświęcim, and it wasn't sealed. They simply erected a Force 8 Spirit Barrier around the area to keep ghosts and spirits from haunting nearby communities. The town of Oświęcim has a background count of 3, BTW.

And, yes, ever since the Grimoire certain concentration camps (WW2 and Indian "re-education" camps) have had permanent and high background counts. Auschwitz is specifically mentioned in MitS as having a permanent Background Count of 5 along with "Re-Education Centers" (which is saying something of how bad they were that they're listed along with Auschwitz and Hiroshima and Nagasaki. The Shattergraves, for example, is only 4).

Simply put, Auschwitz is in SR one of (if not) the most magically fucked-up places in the world. It has a permanent background of 5. It contains thousands of pissed-off spirits and ghosts, and there are astral constructs of some of buildings razed by the Nazis as they fled ahead of the Soviet advance.

[headfirst-for-ha...]

My head hurts from all this SR goodness. I was thinking about IE hitler being detained due to the Amerind relo. Starting his plots up again (this time aimed at the less beautiful metas) Maybe he could have been responsible for the night of rage incidents, starting the humanis policlub, and subsequently starting to use the U.S Japanese determent camps as startup concentration camps for Orks and Trolls. For fun all of this should be corporate funded, due to meta humans needing to be whittled down for projection data purposes. And now his plans threaten to start a new genocidal war based in Seattle. My hands are in all the pies, and they taste delish.

[The ubbergeek]

Make me wonder... In Shadows of Asia, does it say something about the goulags (russians and chineses) in a similar way? The killing fields of Cambodgia?

[headfirst-for-ha...]

downloading the ancient files book with IE mentioned.
Wish me luck (I'm on dail-up, but I have firefox :))