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Beetle Eater  Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,797 Joined: 3-June 02 From: Oblivion City Member No.: 2,826  |
Only without the psychotropic simsense. Too bad psychotropic simsense is incompatible with preventing economic stagnation... |
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May 19 2006, 05:40 AM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,013 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
On the contrary, psychotropic simsense can encourage wild spending. Really, with enough psychotropic simsense, there's nothing physically possible you can't do.
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May 19 2006, 05:43 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
i'd say the second is as much of a pipe dream as removing human sexuality (or desire for dominance) altogether. non-sensationalist media? how would they sell papers? more, maybe: not everybody has a strong desire for sex or power; everybody* wants something to gossip about.
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May 19 2006, 05:46 AM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,013 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Psychotropic simsense.
Seeing a pattern? :D ~J |
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May 19 2006, 06:00 AM
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Why oh why didn't I take the blue pill. Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,545 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gloomy Boise Idaho Member No.: 2,006 |
Uhm yes it is. If it stays in your pants then there is no rape. Thats what it boils down to. Everything else is just excuses for people who need to be taken out back in shot. |
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May 19 2006, 06:02 AM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,013 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Again, you're totally
That and you're indulging in the fallacy of total self-control, but that's a whole different issue more suited for a psych board (and to forestall the response, no, I don't think we should just ignore something if someone didn't have control over it. The fact that they didn't have control in and of itself is important and would need to be addressed.). ~J |
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May 19 2006, 06:05 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,353 Joined: 5-June 02 Member No.: 2,840 |
I agree that it should be that simple. But again, like I said, too many men's answer to your suggestion is "make me" or "why should I?" That's not how it should be, but it unfortunately is in this screwed up world. Hence, the need for a more complex solution (punishment). |
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May 19 2006, 06:09 AM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,013 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
If you're going to chip away at my faith in humanity, at least have the decency to do it more slowly.
~J |
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May 19 2006, 06:13 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,353 Joined: 5-June 02 Member No.: 2,840 |
Sorry; kinda hard to think about other's faith in humanity when you've already lost yours. |
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May 19 2006, 06:25 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
oh, my.
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May 19 2006, 07:03 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 684 Joined: 8-April 06 From: My dorm room Member No.: 8,438 |
You've guilted me, hyz: I sort of implied that rape was something that straight men do to straight women, and I realize that I was incorrect. *Slaps forehead* I want to say that the reason I started this topic is because I'm worried that some people who frequent this forum might unintentionally commit rape, just because they don't know a lot about this issue. Now, before you all start flaming me: I never said that you were rapists, neither collectively nor individually. I'm willing to bet that not one individual who reads this post has ever spent an evening hiding in the shadows and waiting to jump out at some unwitting victim, nor that he will ever do so in the future. (I use "he," "him," and "his" as gender-neutral pronouns.) But I can easily see a caring and loving person--a person who fully intends to make his partner happy--misinterpreting his partner's expressed or implied wishes and thereby rape said partner, not even realizing that he's doing something the partner doesn't want. This person would be much more likely to do such a thing if he were under the influence of drugs or alcohol, because his impaired perceptions can cause him to miss subtle signals he might have been able to pick up on if he were sober. Anyway, that's why it's so important that people have open and honest dialogues about their relationships and do their best not to judge or condemn each other. The better one understands one's partner, the less likely one is to hurt one's partner. Perhaps rape is an extreme example of "hurting one's partner," but I've heard of too many he-said-she-said cases not to advise people to listen very carefully to their partners. |
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May 19 2006, 07:07 AM
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Horror Group: Members Posts: 5,322 Joined: 15-June 05 From: BumFuck, New Jersey Member No.: 7,445 |
*looks up from the shadows of a central park, and hides the dart gun in a knapsack.* What? Who? Where? No-nothing of the sort. You can't prove a thing! Your check's in the mail...
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May 19 2006, 07:08 AM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,013 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Accidental rape is a real problem that needs to be avoided. I have a close friend who had a relationship—up to that point a very pleasant one—destroyed because during consensual sex she had an asthma attack and her partner missed the "stop now" signals. Though I'm only casually acquainted with said partner, I understand the guilt caused him no end of problems for quite some time thereafter.
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May 19 2006, 07:08 AM
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ghostrider Group: Retired Admins Posts: 4,196 Joined: 16-May 04 Member No.: 6,333 |
Sounds like someone has a "pet topic of the month/semester/insert appropriate time period here".
Rape = bad. Anyone with a brain gets it. For those without said equipment, posting to a SR forum about it isn't going to get it through to them, methinks. |
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May 19 2006, 07:10 AM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,013 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Your brilliance astounds me. How whole cultures could grapple with this, when you can distill it all down to one single concept, with absolutely no complexities and shades of grey or motivational issues or what-have you—you are truly one of the great minds of our time. ~J |
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May 19 2006, 07:24 AM
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ghostrider Group: Retired Admins Posts: 4,196 Joined: 16-May 04 Member No.: 6,333 |
OMGZORZ I didn't get all philosophical about a topic that has nothing to do with these boards. OMFG I must really only have the capacity to come up with what I posted, and that's all I'm mentally capable of. No. Actually, it really does strike me that this is someone with a pet cause, parading it around somewhere that it doesn't really belong. Forgive me for not jumping on the weepy bandwagon on this one. Or don't. |
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May 19 2006, 07:32 AM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,013 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Attack it for being off-topic all you like, that's one charge that Hell's attorney himself (herself?) couldn't keep from sticking. Objecting to the topic, however, does not make trying to simplify a very complex issue down to a simple (correct but badly incomplete) statement acceptable.
~J |
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May 19 2006, 07:38 AM
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ghostrider Group: Retired Admins Posts: 4,196 Joined: 16-May 04 Member No.: 6,333 |
Pish. "Acceptable" to whom?
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May 19 2006, 07:42 AM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,013 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Me, of course. Is there any higher standard?
~J |
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May 19 2006, 07:57 AM
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ghostrider Group: Retired Admins Posts: 4,196 Joined: 16-May 04 Member No.: 6,333 |
Hmmm...
Ummm... *scratch, scratch*... emo? :D |
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May 19 2006, 08:01 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,901 Joined: 19-June 03 Member No.: 4,775 |
Sometimes, I don't even know why Kage tries.
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May 19 2006, 08:07 AM
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ghostrider Group: Retired Admins Posts: 4,196 Joined: 16-May 04 Member No.: 6,333 |
I have the same feeling, but I suspect we mean different things when we voice it. ;)
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May 19 2006, 08:07 AM
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Horror Group: Members Posts: 5,322 Joined: 15-June 05 From: BumFuck, New Jersey Member No.: 7,445 |
Because he wants to be our Captain Chaos. |
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May 19 2006, 12:50 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 684 Joined: 8-April 06 From: My dorm room Member No.: 8,438 |
No, SR is my "pet topic of the month/semester/insert appropriate time period here." Sexual assault and domestic violence are my friend Liz's "pet topics," she just happens to talk about them when I'm around. Most of the time, I'm practically as dispassionate as you can get about rape without being totally indifferent to it. Still, now that the can of worms has been opened, I feel obligated to answer what has already been said. Therefore, if you want me to get off my soap box, then don't give me a reason to stay on it.
Yes, but there are plenty of people who are "with a brain" that don't seem to get what rape is. When "in a survey of college males who committed rape [i.e. admitted to having a sexual encounter that met the legal definition of rape], 84% said what they did was definitely not rape," that indicates that at least some people commit rape because, consciously or unconsciously, they somehow don't understand the true nature of their actions. EDIT: Fixed quotes and added source. |
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May 19 2006, 02:24 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 976 Joined: 16-September 04 From: Near my daughters, Lansdale PA Member No.: 6,668 |
'Shot in the arm' is probably a phrase to avoid right after Snow fox' comments. I would htink rape prevention should be aimed more at guys than women. |
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