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ChuckRozool
post May 19 2006, 07:29 AM
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I'm listening to NPR's All Things Considered and they did an article on Jimbo. Apparently the FBI(?) received another lead on where Jimbo might be buried. Now don't ask me why, but I started thinking of how to include Jimmy in a Shadowrun scenario.

Maybe Jimbo comes back (as a spirit, or whatever) and amasses some wealth in order to avenge his death, sorta like a curse on the descendant of those who murdered him? Or what if the FBI is still trying to find his body, and for some reason they hire the runners to follow a lead... OMG This is great! What if while they're investigating the lead they actually find his body, and it turns out some tiny backwoods town had preserved and enshrined the body. Apparently the town was plagued with sickness until his body arrived or was found. Wouldn't that be fun?

I don't know... Just figured I'd throw it out there or something...

Edit: Almost forgot the green... I'm pretty lame, huh?
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post May 19 2006, 07:34 AM
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Man, you almost forgot to make your post eye-gouging.

As for Hoffa, one word: shedim. It's the answer to everything, and you know your PCs are itching to fend off zombie Teamsters.

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post May 19 2006, 07:36 AM
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Some friends and I were watching this report at breakfast, and decided that what had really happened is that he his attourney (a man also featured in the report) had begun a game of hide and seek, all those years ago.

Picture: The FBI is digging their new hole. CLANG! They hit metal, clear the dirt away, and find the door to an underground vault. They open it up, and out runs Hoffa going "OLLY OLLY OXEN FREE"!!
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post May 19 2006, 07:39 AM
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Another possible twist is to skip old Jimbo and just use his life. The Riggers and technicians who control and oversee the truck fleets in the UCAS are organizing, and trying to get the Riggers who pilot suborbitals and semiballistics (as well as more traditional aeroplanes) into the mix. This is of grave concern to the UCAS, the corps, and just about everyone else—time for some shadow wetwork.

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post May 19 2006, 07:40 AM
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Hmm. That's something I've never paid attention to in SR. Are unions ever mentioned?
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post May 19 2006, 07:49 AM
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QUOTE (Kagetenshi)
Man, you almost forgot to make your post eye-gouging.

Is it really that bad? Most of the time I post from work, we use Dell flat screens so it doesn't look bad to me... That and I think the grey and green look kinda nice.
Or is it just annoying to people that I've been posting in green?

Back on topic, sorta, I have heard mention of shedim; but I don't know what they are. Although I hear they're pretty nasty. (I don't have many of the books but I'm still working on that. Only ones i have are: SR3 Core, SR Comp, MitS, CC, and New Seattle.)

And that would be pretty funny to see, not to mention completely random and unexpected.

Edit - Man! You're good at coming up with ideas... I like the union formation idea, maybe then you can have the runners kill and bury the face of the movement. Then the mystery would start again...
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post May 19 2006, 07:51 AM
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New Seattle mentions that the Mafia controls "[…]the trucking companies and unions the factories depend on" in Auburn. The Underworld sourcebook has a similar passing reference talking about kidnapping (shadowtalk mentions that it can be used to "[pressure] a union boss they need to subvert").

They clearly exist, but their role doesn't seem well-defined. I'll dig through NAGRL in the morning.

Edit: regarding the green, it isn't that bad, but I do find it difficult to read—not that much contrast against the grey. I'll have to check it on another monitor.

Edit2: shedim are basically spirits that inhabit dead bodies and turn them into zombie-like things. Of course, Master Shedim are a whole different kettle of fish… (they are to regular shedim what Deus is to spellcheck.)

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post May 19 2006, 07:56 AM
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Sony Vaio flatscreen with anti-glare here. The green isn't that bad, but it is harder to read than the default.

@K: No need to put yourself out dude. Thanks though. It's been a while since I read SoU, which is funny, because two out of the last three campaigns I've been involved in had heavy "organizational" influences. The GM running the first one winged it, and I winged it based on light RL knowledge and a few blurbs from random books.
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post May 19 2006, 08:23 AM
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Shedim don't just inhabit dead bodies. They inhabit empty bodies. They first appeared in YOTC and they are the reason why cremation has become very popular and sane magicians leave their bodies inside force 16 wards when they project. There is nothing quite as fun as retunring to your meat and finding that a squater has taken it to Hoboken, New Jersey.

For the most part, they are Night of the Living dead zombies without the infection power. They travel in hordes. They eat people alive. And they really are reanimated dead corpses.

Master Shedim are different. Master Shedim are Zombie/Wendigo/Free Bug Spirits on crack. They have the regeneration power and can make their bodies appear to be perfectly normal. They have access to all of their hosts' memories and skills. They pick hosts who are in positions of power and exploit that power for their own unknowable goals. And they use their compulsion power to make you cook parts of yourself and feed yourself to them while you're still alive. Being alive while they eat you is necessary for the Essence Drain power to work.
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post May 19 2006, 03:02 PM
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QUOTE (ChuckRozool)
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Man, you almost forgot to make your post eye-gouging.

Is it really that bad? Most of the time I post from work, we use Dell flat screens so it doesn't look bad to me... That and I think the grey and green look kinda nice.
Or is it just annoying to people that I've been posting in green?

Back on topic, sorta, I have heard mention of shedim; but I don't know what they are. Although I hear they're pretty nasty. (I don't have many of the books but I'm still working on that. Only ones i have are: SR3 Core, SR Comp, MitS, CC, and New Seattle.)

And that would be pretty funny to see, not to mention completely random and unexpected.

Edit - Man! You're good at coming up with ideas... I like the union formation idea, maybe then you can have the runners kill and bury the face of the movement. Then the mystery would start again...

I do a lot of reading at work on an older CRT monitor, and unfortunately the green and grey on this nearly blend together, making your posts all but unreadable. They are fine when I'm home on better gear.
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post May 19 2006, 04:33 PM
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QUOTE (Kagetenshi)
Another possible twist is to skip old Jimbo and just use his life. The Riggers and technicians who control and oversee the truck fleets in the UCAS are organizing, and trying to get the Riggers who pilot suborbitals and semiballistics (as well as more traditional aeroplanes) into the mix. This is of grave concern to the UCAS, the corps, and just about everyone else—time for some shadow wetwork.

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...being a former card carrying member of the UAW "way back when" (remember old Walter Ruther?), I find this particular angle rather interesting.

With all the union bashing that has occurred in RL since Reagan (USA) and Maggie Thatcher (UK) were in power - along with deregulation of major industries like the airlines (actually a leftover from the Jimmy Carter era) telecommunications, and banking - this could make for a very fun (for the GM) and potentially quite dangerous (for the PCs) sceanrio to run.

Thanks for the adventure seed.

...look for the Union Label...
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post May 19 2006, 04:39 PM
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Swiped! :)

Re grey and green: I generally get online from one of three different computers. From two of them I can read it fine, although it is harder than normal. The third one has an older monitor and I have to highlight your test (turning it to white on blue) in order to read it.
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post May 24 2006, 03:07 PM
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We have always assumed a large union presence in SR. There are hordes of people without power - the SINless, the goblinized, all sorts of marginalized people. They will band together, get treated slightly better, and allow someone with less than perfect ethics to become rich and powerfull.
Good for runs with the mob or yaks or rings or whatever.
You want info from the dockworker? Well, he's a longshoreman, and since the mafia is 'protecting' their interests, the fact that you roughed up some working class schlub just cost you more than you bargained for..
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post May 24 2006, 03:27 PM
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Hmm. That opens up a whole new category of shadowruns against unions, nascent or established...
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post May 24 2006, 09:28 PM
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Actually, Hoffa is now one of the SINless and is clearly living in the Shadows. He must have had one good decker to purge all traces of his current whereabouts.
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post May 26 2006, 08:18 PM
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Different Jim, but in my first SR3 group, I went through a run where an music loving eccentric CEO of a large multinational corp hired us for a globe trotting run to prevent a mega corp music label from trying to summon and bind the ghost/spirit of Jim Morrison and forcing him to play music again and promote the sales of his old music albums.
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