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 May 24 2006, 01:03 PM
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Moving Target  Group: Members Posts: 133 Joined: 8-September 05 Member No.: 7,718  |
Dumpshock Gang-
I am trying to find out the cost and stats of Ultrasound viosion equipment, both implanted, drone sensor, wall-mounted, hand-held, goggles, Glasses and (dare I say it) contacts! It's not in the book (except for in the eyes of the Bounty Hunter). Does anyone have any ideas? I am sure it will be in one of the upcoming sourcebooks, but That does me little good for the run I am doing next week. :-) - Lebo77 |
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May 24 2006, 01:38 PM
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Mr. Johnson Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,148 Joined: 27-February 06 From: UCAS Member No.: 8,314 |
Turn to page 324 of your hymnal.
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May 24 2006, 01:51 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 133 Joined: 8-September 05 Member No.: 7,718 |
Wonderfull. That handles most of my questions. But cybereye ultrasound is still a question. What should the capacity and cost be?
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May 24 2006, 01:54 PM
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Beetle Eater Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,797 Joined: 3-June 02 From: Oblivion City Member No.: 2,826 |
I just kept it the same; lets you put a lot of fab stuff into ware.
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May 24 2006, 02:03 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 133 Joined: 8-September 05 Member No.: 7,718 |
In external gear, ultrasound is 10x more expensive then low-light. When packing it into a cybereye it should cost the same? Sounds very cheap to me. And this still does not answer the capacity question. |
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May 24 2006, 02:11 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 86 Joined: 8-January 05 From: St. Paul, MN Member No.: 6,949 |
Cyberware Ultrasound Sensor is on page 331...it's under headware rather than cybereyes.
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May 24 2006, 02:14 PM
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Mr. Johnson Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,148 Joined: 27-February 06 From: UCAS Member No.: 8,314 |
I figured it was too big to fit into an eye. We've got one at work (it's looking at me now ...), and even at an eighth it's size, there wouldn't be enough room left in an eye for anything else. If it gets too small, the physics of it just won't work (no, I don't feel like explaining that; go to college). |
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May 24 2006, 03:11 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 133 Joined: 8-September 05 Member No.: 7,718 |
Doh!
Thanks for all the help guys. I need to search better. - Lebo77 |
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May 24 2006, 03:50 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,073 Joined: 23-August 04 Member No.: 6,587 |
Aaron compare that ultrasound detector at work to a hand held camera. About the same size, you can have the camera in your eye in 2070
Edward |
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May 24 2006, 03:53 PM
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Genuine Artificial Intelligence Group: Members Posts: 4,019 Joined: 12-June 03 Member No.: 4,715 |
It's not that simple. There are wavelength restrictions.
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May 24 2006, 07:47 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,556 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Seattle Member No.: 98 |
I'm trying to imagine what having an ultrasonic device inside of a cybereye might do to your normal vision, were the ultrasound active as well. I have this image of everything blurring faintly...
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May 24 2006, 07:50 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,754 Joined: 9-July 04 From: Modesto, CA Member No.: 6,465 |
Yeah this has me asking the same question. So is the emitter in your eye/contact lense as well? I just said "Yes" and left it alone. |
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May 24 2006, 08:05 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,556 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Seattle Member No.: 98 |
I haven't encountered a problem yet, but I'm probably going to disallow ultrasound contacts. If you can't fit it in a cybereye, you damn well can't fit it in something you can wear on a cybereye.
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May 24 2006, 08:06 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,150 Joined: 19-December 05 From: Rhein-Ruhr Megaplex Member No.: 8,081 |
I agree ;).
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May 24 2006, 08:18 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 86 Joined: 8-January 05 From: St. Paul, MN Member No.: 6,949 |
I would just call it an external device that can wirelessly transmit its data as display to your contact lenses.
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May 24 2006, 09:49 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,556 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Seattle Member No.: 98 |
I'm fine with that... it's just an Image Link, then. It's the people who want the entire system to fit IN A CONTACT LENS that I have issue with :P
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May 24 2006, 10:31 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 626 Joined: 1-March 04 Member No.: 6,112 |
Your smart-assed way of referring to the BBB is making the Google ads above the forum try to hawk me Bible stuff :D :grinbig: |
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May 24 2006, 10:42 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 684 Joined: 8-April 06 From: My dorm room Member No.: 8,438 |
Really? I don't think the ads have ever been anything but "DDO Gold supply on Sale" and "Dungeons and Dragons Online"--in that order--for me.
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May 25 2006, 01:41 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 341 Joined: 3-October 05 Member No.: 7,802 |
I read somewhere that ultrasound can display as an overlay on your vision, so no blurring. Don't you just love AR? ;)
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May 25 2006, 08:43 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 13 Joined: 28-April 06 Member No.: 8,507 |
The blur effect would be caused by the ultrasound emitter's vibrations in your eye. The human eye is sorta like a big grape, only filled with Jell-o instead of fruit. The eye can actually deform a bit without pain or damage, and the ultrasound's vibrations would definitely cause this. Most likely, this would result in the lens jittering or waves in the vitreous humor (eye goop).
Ick, I wonder if prolonged use could actually cause separation of the retina? It sure would suck to be blinded by your vision enhancement. |
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May 25 2006, 07:26 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,556 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Seattle Member No.: 98 |
That'd mostly depend on the magnitude of the vibrations, I think. The blinding headaches you'd get from having your vision blurring very faintly would probably be a bigger issue :P
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May 25 2006, 07:41 PM
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Beetle Eater Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,797 Joined: 3-June 02 From: Oblivion City Member No.: 2,826 |
I doubt vibration would be a problem with cybereyes.
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May 25 2006, 10:10 PM
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Mr. Johnson Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,148 Joined: 27-February 06 From: UCAS Member No.: 8,314 |
Why not? I imagine they're more rigid than normal eyes, and so I would think they'd be more susceptible. |
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May 25 2006, 10:13 PM
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Beetle Eater Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,797 Joined: 3-June 02 From: Oblivion City Member No.: 2,826 |
Spring suspension and the technology that corrects the issue with the ultrasound itself can compensate, I think. Plus, the software that converts the camera data into sensory input could correct for this sort of thing, at the very least. This post has been edited by Kanada Ten: May 25 2006, 10:19 PM |
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May 25 2006, 10:36 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 565 Joined: 7-January 04 Member No.: 5,965 |
in SR3, the ultrasound was an eye/ear implant. even then you had a finite amount of space in the eye to work with.
in SR4, its headware. so it goes in your head. the head dosent exactly have THAT much room, especialy in the forward arc. So the question becomes, if i dont put it in the eyes/ears, where does it go and what does it look like? there IS a prcedent for putting headware in an eye/ear. remember the datajack that plugged into your eye? you can still do that. 1 capacity, and plug in. further, ultrasound is listed specificaly as a vision enhancement, and has no listed restrictions of where it could be put. you could start with an ultrasound monocle (availibility 12). I can think of only one reason not to put the ultrasound in the cybereyes- active ultrasound is a very good target for anyone with passive ultrasound and a gun. |
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