 Lifting/Carry rules, Quick questions |
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 May 27 2006, 08:01 PM
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I unfortunatly, do not have the book in front of me at the time of this posting, however a conflict came up in game yesterday about the following situation.
A PC troll, with a strength of 9 was attemtping to flip a desk over on it's side. On top of the desk was a Troll who had fallen down face first on it. The action was rolled for, and apparently the player needed like 9 successes to just push the desk over. This resulted in an argument. There is supposedly a chart that shows weight vs. strength and successes required to do certain things. In my mind, a human with a strength of 6 may as well be a body builder. A troll at strength 9? why is there even an issue of a roll? I mean, granted you could possibly glitch or something and not succeed, but, I'm an averaged sized guy, with average strength. You'd call me a 3. I can lift my own weight. So what's a troll at STR9 lifting a 50lb desk+his own weight need 9 successes for? Does anybody know of any rules that lay the lift/carry rules out simply, or have clever house rules for STR=Weight possible to lift, anything like that? |
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May 27 2006, 08:29 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,479 Joined: 6-May 05 From: Idaho Member No.: 7,377 |
I made up a chart for lifting and carrying based off a human being able to deadlift 1000 pnds (it's been done) and I based that at str 7, After 7 I adjusted it to relflect things only cybered or meetas could do, and at the top end of troll strength ended at 2000 pnds if I remember right.
The rules as cannon just don't reward strong characters enough, and strength isn't the most valauble attribute as it is. The cannon rules represent normal strength levels fine IMO but after strength 4 just don't cut it. |
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May 27 2006, 08:49 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,150 Joined: 19-December 05 From: Rhein-Ruhr Megaplex Member No.: 8,081 |
There are rules for lifting and carrying, but to tip a table over, with a troll on top, they not really apply :D.
If I am right, a strength 9 Troll would need 11 successes on a STR+BOD test to lift a 300 Kilo troll... (135 with strength 9, left over 165 = 11*15): Which just proves, that the new lifting and carrying rules aren't perfect. (Better than the SR3 ones, i think ;) ). Back on Topic, tipping over is probably easier than lifting. (and being a troll sucks, if you are unconscius your friends can't carry you away :P. Might be a good idea to screw a few small wheels on the back of your armor :D). |
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May 27 2006, 09:03 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 10 Joined: 27-May 06 Member No.: 8,610 |
Squinky: Could you share your chart/system?
BB: Wheels? Haha, I may just do that. |
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May 27 2006, 09:08 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 208 Joined: 3-May 06 From: On the Run Member No.: 8,521 |
Troll Street Luge :eek: Anyways... I really don't like the the lifting and carrying rules as is (10kg per point?! please). That means the average human (str of 3) can only lift and carry 30kg (66 lbs) without having to make a test. I'm average and I was lifting and carrying more than that, all day - day in and day out, when I was 15 years old (definately hadn't hit my full growth yet). |
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