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Jun 12 2006, 08:43 PM
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Shadow Cartographer ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,737 Joined: 2-June 06 From: Secret Tunnels under the UK (South West) Member No.: 8,636 |
Done. Let the futility commence! :D |
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Jun 12 2006, 09:08 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 475 Joined: 13-March 06 From: dusty Mexican borderlands Member No.: 8,372 |
Fine. Fine! Also, I think you both have a little right and a little wrong. I've said most of this before, but it seems like the most likely situation, and is somewhere in between you two. My view of it is that the Corporate Court washes its hands of the corp in question completely. That includes ZOG and ZOG-affiliated/loyal banking services and the immediate demand for payment of all outstanding loans from those institutions (companies, especially big ones, loan and get loans all the time). It also includes all protection, though that may be less relevant. At the point an Omega Order is issued, most of the corporate management has probably already jumped ship, frantically dumping their personal stock, as I've mentioned before. This will include a great many executives and middle managers with their ear to the ground. With a company losing so much money so fast from loan defaults, stock dumps, etc., they can't pay their employees. Low-level employees and security get laid off. Facilities will get closed down, losing their extraterritorial status. Those facilities will get sold off, along with any relevant patents for whatever their developing/manufacturing, at cut-rate prices while the company tries, desperately, not to collapse under its own weight, which its coffers can no longer sustain. There's absolutely no need to militarily seize corporate assets, when you can buy it for next to nothing and generate solid profit from the existing infrastructure. With seizure by force, you get property destruction, insurance payouts, death settlements with outraged family members, legal complications, and shitloads of bad press. At the same time, any military attack on a corporate facility, even if that company is hemorrhaging money and desperately trying to consolidate its remaining assets, would probably result in a bloody conflict that wouldn't serve anyone. You can't let someone overtly rob you and expect to remain respectable. It's just not worth the price of the attack, even against a weak opponent. The Corporate Court doesn't keep corps from laying siege to each other. I mean, c'mon, corps run the Corporate Court. Mutual benefit and universal profit, even during drastically vulnerable times, keep corps from laying siege to each other. Usually A megacorporation hit with an Omega Order could conceivably stay alive with intelligent crisis management and damage control. It wouldn't be a mega anymore, and would never be one again, but it could survive as a B or even A-level multinational. Of course, if the corporation had intelligent management to begin with, the Omega Order would've never been handed down in the first place. And living corporations offer more profit to everyone than a dead husk. And the management (new management, likely) of the now-deflating corp would realize that. There's still money to be made. They can still turn things around and get something, and that's really the name of the game. Dropping nukes is certainly counterproductive to this end. Seizing land is also counterproductive. The most efficient, profit-oriented way to handle a megacorp that can no longer do business with all the institutions that allow it to be a megacorp is to gleefully gouge it for all the extraneous assets, patents, facilities, and stock they're frantically trying to get rid of, of which there will be a metric fuckton, build it up for 5-10 years, and sell it off yourself at an enormous profit. |
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Jun 13 2006, 02:22 AM
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 13 Joined: 10-February 06 Member No.: 8,247 |
I would also add to this just how painful an Omega Order can be for other companies that do business with the offending organization. Not only does this mean the loss of a major trading partner, but a potentially serious interruption in the supply chain. No only could this prove to be debilitating to certain sectors but would likely cause a serious rise in inflation across the board. It is also possible that several companies would have to maintain relations with the blacklisted corp because otherwise they would go bankrupt anyway (though I image there will also be several companies that do it under the table because they see trading with a desperate company as highly profitable). In this case I could see why military action might actually be favored to resolve a particularly poorly executed Omega Order and prevent more economic damage.
Or am I interpreting this wrong and the Omega Order doesn’t actually restrict trade? |
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Jun 13 2006, 05:56 PM
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Shadow Cartographer ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,737 Joined: 2-June 06 From: Secret Tunnels under the UK (South West) Member No.: 8,636 |
Well I agree with everything you just said and I thought that's pretty much what I've been saying. Although you said it in 1/5th the word count that I did (never got the hang of that). So what's the part I got wrong? I'm curious as to where we disagree. -K. |
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Jun 13 2006, 06:37 PM
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Hoppelhäschen 5000 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,807 Joined: 3-January 04 Member No.: 5,951 |
Indeed - but don't worry, that mistake is quite common within this thread. An Omega Order does not mean restrictions - it means purging the offender. Wich makes statements like
pretty silly, especially considering canon. (The very assumption of cutting off a corporation from every possibility to make profit is flawed itself in a balkanized world like the sixth, too.) |
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Jun 13 2006, 08:26 PM
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Shadow Cartographer ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,737 Joined: 2-June 06 From: Secret Tunnels under the UK (South West) Member No.: 8,636 |
It's a while since I read Corporate Shadowfiles and my copy is now in storage. But I remember the Omega Order as being freezing of assets and trade restrictions - the corporate equivalent of cutting off oxygen. I'd be interested if anyone else still has a copy and can quote the relevant passage for us. In any case, trade restrictions make sense.
I see the world of 2070 as being less balkanised than our own. SR is a post WTO, post EU, post ASEAN sort of place. Few nations have any kind of import and export restrictions or tarrifs, there's a de facto international currency and business is completely internationalised. When the Corporate Court (a UN for the plutocratic planet) is in orbit, then what part of the globe isn't interconnected with the rest? |
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Jun 13 2006, 09:06 PM
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Hoppelhäschen 5000 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,807 Joined: 3-January 04 Member No.: 5,951 |
What a stroke of luck I have a Corporate Download handy - that's a bit more recent. ;)
Of course... that's what happens as a normal punishment.
..you don't own any 'Shadows of' or 'Target:' Books, do you? :|
Most of those entities are still kicking, although under a changed name... and the sixth world has spawned many more.
In fact, there are so many restrictions that even smuggeling entertainment electronics can pay off.
As the CC only regulates extraterritorial corporations directly, pretty much the rest of the world. |
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