Drones... Drones... and more Drones..., Ok... i'm a Rigger newbie... |
Drones... Drones... and more Drones..., Ok... i'm a Rigger newbie... |
Jun 20 2006, 06:08 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 20 Joined: 19-June 06 Member No.: 8,737 |
Some Drones can have multiple weapon mounts...
Can the Drone and/or Rigger fire multiple weapons at the same time? If so, does Recoil from multiple weapons effect each other? Do the weapon mounts compensate for any recoil aside what the weapon already compensates for? (i.e. Would a weapon mount count as something similiar to a tri-pod and add an additional 6 Recoil Compensation? How many Autosofts can be equiped to a drone? - DgrenJ |
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Jun 20 2006, 06:45 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 626 Joined: 1-March 04 Member No.: 6,112 |
Many of the more-detailed questions about vehicles and drones, including some of these, will go unanswered until Arsenal's release.
In SR3, the answers to your first three questions questions are: No, unless multiple missiles and Launch Control Systems are involved. Not applicable- see above. No. |
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Jun 20 2006, 06:51 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 142 Joined: 29-October 05 From: Arlington, TX Member No.: 7,909 |
Some of these answers are speculative, but I'll try. 1. I don't have an answer for this yet, but I would say no. In modern warfare, soldiers tend to have responsability of a single weapon for gunnery purposes. This is not so much because of the inability to activate several weapons, but the ability to track your foes and friendlies. 2. I would assume yes. If a weapon is attached to a hardpoint, and recoils enough to alter the outcome of the shot, then multiple weapons would do more. Much like a player with two guns. 3. As far as I am aware, not at this time. Though there might be new rules for that eventually as well. 4. I do not recall, but I thought that it was in the book. Unfortunately, mine is at home, and I am at work. |
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Jun 20 2006, 07:00 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,430 Joined: 10-January 05 From: Fort Worth, Texas Member No.: 6,957 |
The only answers we have for sure now are
3) No, the mount provides no recoil bonuses. It does negate the penalties for firing from a moving vehicle, which is a hefty -5 IIRC. 4) Autosofts are programs, and so are limited by the system attribute of the drone (which is usually 3, again IIRC). |
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Jun 20 2006, 07:06 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 351 Joined: 17-February 06 From: San Francisco Member No.: 8,275 |
Page 239 of the Good Book, the Arm Weapon System Action:
Arm/Disarm a Weapon System (Free) A rigger may order a single drone to arm or disarm one of its weapon systems. A drone may have only one weapon system armed at any one time. Switching weapon systems, however, only requires one Free Action. |
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Jun 20 2006, 07:08 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 351 Joined: 17-February 06 From: San Francisco Member No.: 8,275 |
Oh, and Autosofts are more like, well, softs, than programs. Like knowsofts, mapsofts, skillsofts and linguasofts, they don't affect response.
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Jun 20 2006, 07:12 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,430 Joined: 10-January 05 From: Fort Worth, Texas Member No.: 6,957 |
Do you have a source for that? If not, there's nothing that would stop them from acting like all other programs.
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Jun 20 2006, 07:43 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,889 Joined: 3-August 03 From: A CPI rank 1 country Member No.: 5,222 |
RL logic won't work too well here. :) In modern warfare, it is true that a single soldier would rarely fire several weapon systems mounted on vehicles at the same time. Of course, a single weapon system (again, IRL) can consist of, say, several linked autocannons or machine guns that fire at the same target -- for example in aircraft carrying gun pods or many AAA platforms. Or consider fighter aircraft MGs/ACs until the 70s. (Semi-)autonomous vehicle systems can fire several weapons at separate targets at the same time, though. These would usually be missiles (and handled in SR3 with the Launch Control Systems, which was a really stupid rule) IRL, but might as well be cannons. 25-year-old (that's 90 years old in 2070) aircraft fire control systems can track and engage several targets at the same time. |
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Jun 20 2006, 11:14 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,838 Joined: 1-September 05 Member No.: 7,669 |
For maximun firepower, couldn't you make each weapon mount a drone in it's own right?
If I have a vehicle with three turrets - don't try to visualize - couldn't it essentially be the same as having three Dobermans immobilized and hard-mounted on the thing? |
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Jun 20 2006, 11:16 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,430 Joined: 10-January 05 From: Fort Worth, Texas Member No.: 6,957 |
Yep.
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Jun 21 2006, 12:11 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 834 Joined: 30-June 03 Member No.: 4,832 |
In our group, we house ruled that vehicle mounts give RC as a tripod (-6). but there's nothing in the rules that say thats the case, only logic.
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Jun 21 2006, 12:20 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 27 Joined: 4-June 06 Member No.: 8,643 |
Ya know, the really sad thing about that scenario is that actually buying 3 dobermans and mounting them on there wouldn't cost much more than buying 3 weapons mounts. And of course the dobermans come with targeting software, so you wouldn't even need the gunnery skill. Course it may be a little tougher to talk your way out of if you get pulled over by the star. |
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Jun 21 2006, 01:40 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,838 Joined: 1-September 05 Member No.: 7,669 |
So, does that mean it's a good idea?
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Jun 21 2006, 02:05 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,430 Joined: 10-January 05 From: Fort Worth, Texas Member No.: 6,957 |
That depends on how stealthy you want to be.
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Jun 21 2006, 05:00 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 7,089 Joined: 4-October 05 Member No.: 7,813 |
smart firing platforms are cheaper. keeping in mind there's nothing that says you can't put accessories on the guns you mount on a vehicle, RAW you can put any gun that can receive accessories on the underside into a smart firing platform to simulate an automated turret. don't forget to share sensor information! and the main body should be going full defense the first two rounds, and making the vehicle test in the last one ;) well, maybe the very first round, it does a teamwork sensor test actually... but otherwise, that should be your pattern =D |
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