 What AR contacts might look like., A picture from Wired magazine |
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 Jun 28 2006, 02:34 AM
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CosaNostra Deliverator  Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 346 Joined: 29-January 05 From: Philadelphia, PA Member No.: 7,034  |
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Jun 28 2006, 03:06 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,556 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Seattle Member No.: 98 |
Where're the crosshairs? :)
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Jun 28 2006, 03:17 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,000 Joined: 17-November 05 From: Halifax, Canada Member No.: 7,975 |
These are AR contacts, Smartlink costs extra. ;)
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Jun 28 2006, 04:10 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 7,089 Joined: 4-October 05 Member No.: 7,813 |
meh. if it can't help you shoot people, what's the point? :grinbig:
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Jun 28 2006, 04:44 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 21 Joined: 2-June 06 From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Member No.: 8,637 |
cool stuff
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Jun 28 2006, 05:37 AM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
highly interesting ;)
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Jun 28 2006, 01:34 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,002 Joined: 22-April 06 From: Canada Member No.: 8,494 |
There would have to be an easy way of turning it off if you needed to though. I can see someone hacking into your commlink and displaying a black screen on you contact.
BANG! you blind. |
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Jun 28 2006, 06:35 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,556 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Seattle Member No.: 98 |
I've got a group of runners, 4/6 of them are Awakened. They think contacts are the shit... hoo boy, vision mods without Essence loss!
Next time corpsec hits them, I'm thinking about doing just that as an opener :P |
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Jun 28 2006, 06:41 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 244 Joined: 8-June 06 Member No.: 8,681 |
See, UNLIKE 'hey, stop hitting yourself', blacking out AR contacts (or goggles, or whatever) is a perfectly reasonable cyberwarfare attack. It'd even be reasonable against cybereyes, assuming the eyes had an imagelink and were subscribed to the commlink.
You could have a lot of fun playing with their audio, too. |
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Jun 28 2006, 08:17 PM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
all cybereyes come with a imagelink as default and can be subscribed to a comlink, so...
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Jun 28 2006, 08:35 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 244 Joined: 8-June 06 Member No.: 8,681 |
*nod* Right. The eyes CAN be subscribed to your PAN...but there i s (or at least, would be in a game I ran) the option of turning off the receiver, just like I assume AR goggles have a push-button control to turn THEM off. Contacts, though, not so much...you'd need to remove them. If the evil security hacker blacks out your goggles, it forces you to spend an action turning them off (and costs you whatever vision mods the goggles were granting). If he blacks out your contacts, you're screwed. You need to take them out, which probably means you need to take off your gloves first, as well as your helmet, and then you have to stand really still while you mess with your eyes. It's all bad.
I assume that all cyberware that has wireless capability also includes a way to 'go deaf' and deactivate that capability...and that turning the wireless on and off is done via nervous-system control, not via your commlink. Any other design would be...extremely foolish. Having your wireless devices hacked isn't something that only happens to runners and secuity guards. Joe Average has to worry about everything from wireless worms designed to infect commlinks and then fill your AR vision with ancient flat-vid images ('All your eyes are belong to us? What does THAT mean?') to that punk technomancer pre-teen in the apartment next door who's been messing with him ever since Joe complained about him running in the hall. If something like that happens, you need a fast way of isolating your 'ware from whatever is messing with it. |
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Jun 28 2006, 09:00 PM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
SR4 specificaly talk about all devices having the posibility to turn of the wireless system (p304)...
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Jun 28 2006, 09:27 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 137 Joined: 8-June 06 From: Present day, Detroit Member No.: 8,683 |
just adepts right no mages :) ? |
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Jun 28 2006, 10:36 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,556 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Seattle Member No.: 98 |
Two adepts (one face twink, one monowhip twink), one Spellcasting-only mage, and one shaman who goes spirits of doom with spellcasting as a backup.
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Jun 28 2006, 11:05 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 137 Joined: 8-June 06 From: Present day, Detroit Member No.: 8,683 |
mages shouldn't be able to take advantage of any vision enhancements in contacts (as they are electronic) for spellcasting. I guess i'm noting this ASSUMING they are (obviously summoning doesnt matter). "A spellcaster can target anyone or anything she can see directly with her natural vision. Physical cyber- or bio-enhancements paid for with Essence can be used to spot targets, but any technological visual aids that substitute themselves for the character’s own visual senses—cameras, electronic binoculars, Matrix feeds, etc.—cannot be used" |
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Jun 28 2006, 11:11 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,556 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Seattle Member No.: 98 |
They're aware of this. Happily, I can use that to make life hard (or force them onto the Astral).
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Jun 28 2006, 11:51 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 983 Joined: 20-February 06 Member No.: 8,286 |
Would a skinlink help protect your contacts from wireless hackers? |
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Jun 29 2006, 12:00 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,556 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Seattle Member No.: 98 |
Not if they hacked your commlink to get to your contacts.
The "easy off" for contacts involves taking them out. If you care about your (several thousand nuyen) contacts, that's not something you want to do quickly. |
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Jun 29 2006, 12:05 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 142 Joined: 29-October 05 From: Arlington, TX Member No.: 7,909 |
That's why we need to go "Mr. Peanut." Of course, there is always the issue of different eyes seeing different things. But it is still fun. If you have a Face who has an old world flair, I'd get him one. |
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Jun 29 2006, 12:06 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 17 Joined: 24-June 06 Member No.: 8,774 |
They don't think you can black out AR contacts. It just isn't a feature that makes sense to put in. What possible use could there be for making oneself blind? Especially with the biological function to do so oneself. Spamming up the AR sure(there are rules for it also), but completely blacked out doesn't make sense. Everything in AR is most likely transparent so worst case scenario you don't walk over a cliff while watching full "screen" movies(so blacking out the AR display would only grey everything out). Now a really neat trick to hacking vision is to switch each other's feeds so Runner A sees through Runner B's eyes, etc.
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Jun 29 2006, 01:21 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 834 Joined: 30-June 03 Member No.: 4,832 |
Gustave, they also mention that there is software to make AR replace the weather, which implies that they can fully replace what the sky looks like. If that were hacked, they could make every thing look like black moonless sky..
Or they can probably adjust the transparency, so if you make the spam totally opaque, they'd still be stuck with out vision. |
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Jun 29 2006, 01:33 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 137 Joined: 8-June 06 From: Present day, Detroit Member No.: 8,683 |
hey you know, i tried ;) |
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Jun 29 2006, 02:14 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 399 Joined: 27-May 04 Member No.: 6,361 |
One runner of mine got two commlinks, one as his public comm thats a high grade standard out of the book and the other as a wireless disabled skinlink PAN server that is the only link to his public comm. He has alot of skinlinked items... from contacts to trodes... to a glowing and responsive nanotat keyboard on his arm.
Going with the whole strange flavor of the skinlink, he decided that his character has removed almost all his body hair (with either male nair or shaving... I don't know which I find more disturbing), with a close crew cut on top. I'm not entirely sure if a skinlink would actually do the whole static charge on the hairs.. but.. Then again... he's also a sniper adept with Post Traumatic Stress disorder that manifests as "flashbacks". (talk about psychological AR). Scary. |
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Jun 29 2006, 03:12 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 984 Joined: 15-June 06 Member No.: 8,717 |
That I don't understand. AR can look super realistic but VR can't? Just see pg. 229 in the "How 'real' is VR?" paragraph. How is it that AR can produce more realistic effects? |
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Jun 29 2006, 06:21 AM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
i smell some cut and paste goofups...
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