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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 60 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,512 ![]() |
Well... no, it is not. Ciao, Eismann |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 681 Joined: 28-February 06 From: UK Member No.: 8,319 ![]() |
Someone please tell me that RH has an index. There have been too many SR sourcebooks without indexes and I'm desperately hoping that this pattern will not be repeated in the SR4 line.
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Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,556 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Seattle Member No.: 98 ![]() |
When is this expected to hit the FLGS's?
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 9 Joined: 28-August 05 Member No.: 7,635 ![]() |
Okay then, i can only work with the information i get from my trusted game-dealer
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Prime Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Retired Admins Posts: 3,929 Joined: 26-February 02 From: .ca Member No.: 51 ![]() |
Runner Havens should be in stores by late July / early August, and the PDF likely early next week -- I still have some bookmarking to do and then get it out to all the PDF sellers.
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 24 Joined: 3-September 05 Member No.: 7,675 ![]() |
Any word on how much the PDF will cost?
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 681 Joined: 28-February 06 From: UK Member No.: 8,319 ![]() |
So I'm guessing, from the lack of confirmation, that there is no index. Real shame.
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 831 Joined: 5-September 05 From: LAX, UCAS Member No.: 7,687 ![]() |
Sweeeeeeeet! 8) |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 291 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 806 ![]() |
True dat. RPG books really need their indexes since they're often crammed with clandestine terms and names. |
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Shadowrun Setting Nerd ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Banned Posts: 3,632 Joined: 28-June 05 From: Pissing on pedestrians from my electronic ivory tower. Member No.: 7,473 ![]() |
What's ACHE?
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Shadow Cartographer ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,737 Joined: 2-June 06 From: Secret Tunnels under the UK (South West) Member No.: 8,636 ![]() |
For those who can't wait for Runner Havens and haven't noticed, yet, there's a 13 page preview available on the Shadowrunrpg site. Maybe I'm the last to notice and everyone else has already read it. But if not, let me just say that it looks great, awesome AND fantastic. Runner comments are back, though at first glance not so heavy as to distract from the general flow. Layout is good, graphics are nice. All reads concise and useful and there's a nice little line in discreet humour:
Heh! It may be that they just included the good thirteen pages and the remainder of the book is the prebucesent ramblings of an eight-year old... but I really really doubt it. :D One sale made! |
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Validating Posts: 1,618 Joined: 29-January 03 From: Montevideo, Uruguay. Member No.: 3,992 ![]() |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 681 Joined: 28-February 06 From: UK Member No.: 8,319 ![]() |
OK I've gone for it (apparently there isn't an index, which makes the pdf a more attractive option to me personally anyway, since it's easier to look things up.)
First impressions: looks good. Very good. There are (small but sufficient) maps of Hong Kong and Seattle, though not- sadly- of the other cities. There's a decent amount of shadowtalk, and generally speaking it seems to be to-the-point. You won't find huge long lists of hotels and restaurants in each district, like you used to, but *shrug* that's hardly a great loss. |
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CosaNostra Deliverator ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 346 Joined: 29-January 05 From: Philadelphia, PA Member No.: 7,034 ![]() |
I got the PDF as well and I agree, it looks great so far.
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Shadowrun Setting Nerd ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Banned Posts: 3,632 Joined: 28-June 05 From: Pissing on pedestrians from my electronic ivory tower. Member No.: 7,473 ![]() |
hehehe Oh, man... I guess this means I can't bomb it to dust. |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 174 Joined: 21-May 06 Member No.: 8,583 ![]() |
So much time on their hands and still the editing is atrocious. (Aztan Leopard Guards, anyone?)
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"What happens in Seattle, stays in Seattle. Unless it follows you home." |
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King of the Hobos ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,117 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 127 ![]() |
What, if anything, is their copyright protection like?
So send them an e-mail, I know the FanPro guys are always welcoming of constructive criticism/feedback. That way they can update it later on. |
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Prime Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Retired Admins Posts: 3,929 Joined: 26-February 02 From: .ca Member No.: 51 ![]() |
That depends on which site you buy it from. DriveThru and Paizo use watermarking, Studio 2, RPGNow, and BattleCorps do not have any copy protection. RPGNow is the only site with the book up right now ... I sent it out Friday night, which means the places that don't work weekends won't have it up until Monday, when the "official" PDF release date is. |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 984 Joined: 15-June 06 Member No.: 8,717 ![]() |
Isn't that a problem not having copy-protection? Does that mean you could share it with friend by giving them copies? That doesn't seem like a wise business move....What prevents people from distributing copies to their friendsand anyone else for that matter?
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,635 Joined: 27-November 05 Member No.: 8,006 ![]() |
Watermarks don't really work to stop sharing with [trusted] friends. It is more a discouragement from sharing with the world. I haven't looked in a while to see what P2P stuff is out there, but last time I did for SR it was all hard copy scans. Even for books that had non-watermarked text PDFs versions for sale. Go figure. *shrug*
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Jacked In, Up & Out ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 232 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Oceanside, CA Member No.: 95 ![]() |
the lack of copy protection is basically a way of saying that they trust the purchasers to not freely distribute.
And thus, I reward companies who do business that way. For example, I have bought both a PDF version and a harcopy version of the SR4 core book, and will probably do that for many of the supplements. On the other hand, I don't buy things that use onerous copy protection, like any computer game from UbiSoft, which used the StarForce copy protection scheme which is infamous on the internet for a number of bad things. |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 684 Joined: 8-April 06 From: My dorm room Member No.: 8,438 ![]() |
I just got the pdf! :love:
I've only had the chance to look it over for about thirty seconds, but I just want to say that I'm glad that they're continuing the Shadowland comments, just like in the older supplements. The comments weren't in the BBB, and I was slightly worried that they'd leave them out of the supplements, too. (Granted, I haven't seen any of the older BBBs, so my fears may have been unfounded.) :D |
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Shadow Cartographer ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,737 Joined: 2-June 06 From: Secret Tunnels under the UK (South West) Member No.: 8,636 ![]() |
Seconded, every word! I have bought numerous PDF's from DriveThruRPG. Even if they weren't watermarked then I still wouldn't share them. I appreciate companies that show me trust and I also appreciate companies that are smart enough not to cripple their product for the sake of those 1-2% who abuse their trust. I have no problem with watermarking. DRM I will not touch because:
Oooh, DRM just gets me mad. |
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