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post Jun 29 2006, 03:20 AM
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Is there a list anywhere of all the mutations that HMHVV (and all of it's strains/types) creates? I know quite a few of them are in Critters, but are there more outside of that?
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post Jun 29 2006, 03:21 AM
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post Jun 29 2006, 03:22 AM
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AH's Page!! AH's Page!!! AH's Page!!!

We really need a sticky for all the questions that are answered on AH's page.
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post Jun 29 2006, 03:22 AM
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Awesome. Thanks!
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post Jun 30 2006, 09:27 PM
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Is the information about the statistical change (a vampire receives) copyrighted? I have a heck of a time figuring out SRs fair-use policy.
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post Jun 30 2006, 09:51 PM
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Vampires don't get statistical bonuses. They only get powers. Those powers are listed in Critters. Critters is available for download free of charge.

Copyright is a tricky thing when dealing with RPG rules. Citing a rule in a discussion is perfectly alright. Giving away so many rules that a person will have no need to buy any of the books, isn't.
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post Jul 1 2006, 09:00 PM
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so you don't add a vampire's essence rating to thier physical statistics? news to me.
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post Jul 1 2006, 09:07 PM
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That would be a power not a statistical bonus. Improved Physical Attributes. It isn't an uncommon Critter Power.
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post Jul 4 2006, 12:29 PM
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QUOTE (hyzmarca)
Vampires don't get statistical bonuses. They only get powers. Those powers are listed in Critters. Critters is available for download free of charge.

Copyright is a tricky thing when dealing with RPG rules. Citing a rule in a discussion is perfectly alright. Giving away so many rules that a person will have no need to buy any of the books, isn't.

Ah, since Critters is available for free (I didn't know that), it's likely okay. I'm assuming this 'free' version is a legal version?
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post Jul 4 2006, 01:51 PM
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It's on the official Shadowrun main page (I think there's a link from the Dumpshock main page), so if it isn't legal, there's a bigger issue than you downloading it.
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post Jul 6 2006, 03:40 PM
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Can one play a nosferatu?
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post Jul 6 2006, 04:55 PM
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to the same extent that you can play a normal vampire, yes--which is to say, there are no rules for creating a PC with that particular malady, but you might be able to fool your GM into letting you play such a monstrosity work with your GM to make such a character playable. a nosferatu might actually be easier to play, given the particulars of their essence drain.
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post Jul 6 2006, 05:00 PM
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Easier to play .... but you have to be human, and they are much more powerful than the typical vampire.
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post Jul 6 2006, 05:29 PM
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QUOTE (Platinum)
Easier to play .... but you have to be human, and they are much more powerful than the typical vampire.

Or a very unusual elf. If you're going to play a Nosfratu you might as well go whole hog and make the character a 400-year-old spike baby elf who just happens to have the unusual characterestics that allow an elf to become a nosfratu and just happens to be attacked by one for no apparent reason.
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post Jul 6 2006, 05:39 PM
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Yeah. The elf is the way to go clearly. I was thinking Night-One more specifically. Perhaps an albino so I can really play out the mild allergy to sunlight. Anyway, I'll need the boosted Charisma and Willpower for summoning Great Form Blood Spirits - what self-respecting Nosferatu would leave home without Sacrificing? Shame about the whole mandatory hermetic tradition... I'd initially wanted to go Path of the Righ.
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post Jul 6 2006, 06:18 PM
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god sees your crimes, Bodak.
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post Jul 6 2006, 06:27 PM
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QUOTE (mfb)
god sees your crimes, Bodak.

Perhaps more frighteningly, so does emo samurai.
:D (sorry I'm picking on you a lot today, emo)
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post Jul 6 2006, 06:28 PM
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I forgot to mention that since I could regen essence from feeding, I would of course go for dikoted plastic bone lacing too.
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post Jul 7 2006, 12:16 PM
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QUOTE (Bodak)
Can one play a nosferatu?

Probably easier to do in a non-Shadowrun game.
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post Jul 7 2006, 06:33 PM
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Why is it always the vampires? How come no one ever wants to play a Grande Zombie?
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post Jul 7 2006, 06:37 PM
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no one likes to be stinky, and unattractive.
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post Jul 7 2006, 06:50 PM
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Personally, I don't want to play a Zombie because they're just so hard to keep in tune. :D
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post Jul 7 2006, 08:06 PM
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QUOTE (Platinum @ Jul 7 2006, 01:37 PM)
no one likes to be stinky, and unattractive.

I beg to differ.

We just need to adapt it to SR3.
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post Jul 7 2006, 10:07 PM
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Making a vampire playable is near impossible unless you ditch the improved physical attributes and most important of all "Mist form". You do not want a character that gets inside everything that has the tiniest hole in it. It just isnt fun.... for the others.
Trust me. I tried. Twice. It wasnt pretty.

Not a whole group of vampires would be a completly different thing, but then you could just play vampire the masquerade.
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post Jul 10 2006, 09:42 PM
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What are the rules for recovering Essence that has been drained by a Vampire? (Are there any?)

So if my 1.5 E Sammie has been subdued by a Vampire, who suceeds in draining 1E from the Sammie before his friends save him, can he recover that drained essence in any way? Or is he SOL?
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