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Nidhogg
post Jul 24 2006, 09:53 AM
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Exactly. YHWH is a mac-daddy pimp stealin' all dem virgins fo' himself.
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NightmareX
post Jul 24 2006, 12:39 PM
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ROFLMAO :D

It also goes to show the value placed on a man (Isaac) as opposed to a woman by Jewish culture of the time (and presumably YHVH too).
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post Jul 25 2006, 06:11 AM
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You really need to read that story in the proper context.
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post Jul 25 2006, 07:17 AM
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But the proper context might destroy my YHWH is a playa' theory, and I'll have none of that. I would much rather base my oppinions on my uninformed layman's observations.
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post Jul 25 2006, 07:43 AM
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Well, you're in the right forum for that. ;)
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Nidhogg
post Jul 25 2006, 09:09 AM
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This is, as they say, how we do.
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post Jul 27 2006, 10:45 AM
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QUOTE (Glyph)
You really need to read that story in the proper context.

Like the rest of the Bible, I think the story can really stand on it's legs and be understood on it's own merits without resorting to the defense and excuses of Proper Context. Especially if one considers it to be Inerrant and Literally True.
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post Jul 27 2006, 11:34 AM
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But I think that Glyph was making a valid point there!

The page you linked to states that "taking something 'out of context' means to isolate and/or arrange the statement or words in such a way that its meaning has been changed from what the writer or speaker intended." The page Glyph linked to indicates that, by grouping Jephthah in with a bunch of other sinful people, the author(s) of Judges intended to present Jephthah's actions as being morally wrong. However, when you first quoted the story, you implied that it was meant to set up Jephthah's actions as being morally exemplary. Thus, you misrepresented the nature of the message that the author(s) was/were trying to send - in other words, you were taking the verses out of context - and this obstructs the reader's ability to understand the lessons that the Bible tries to teach. How can a verse "stand on it's [sic] legs" if you've knocked the bottom out of it?

Now...how can we tie Jephthah back to Shadowrun? ;)

EDIT: Changed some sentence structures and added the rhetorical question.
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post Jul 27 2006, 01:42 PM
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QUOTE (FanGirl)
Now...how can we tie Jephthah back to Shadowrun? ;)

Religious nut #1 hires shadowrunners to prevent the sacrifice of religious nut #2's [his enemy's] daughter, not because he cares about the girl, but because he believes that this intercession will put #2 in default of his pledge to their God and bring the guy bad luck. Upon safely extracting the girl, they hand her over to #1, who pays them, thanking them profusely, and happily pulls out a handgun and puts a bullet through her head himself.
[uplifting story if I've ever heard one]
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post Jul 28 2006, 11:44 AM
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QUOTE (FanGirl)
Now...how can we tie Jephthah back to Shadowrun? ;)


You are precisely correct on this one Fangirl. We've strayed too far into the realm of religion, and for that I apoligize. I merely brought up the story originally as a bit of trivia. For that reason, I've put my response to your post in a spoiler block. If you or anyone else wishes to continue this sub-discussion, I think it would be better if we do so privately via pm or email.

Shadowrun uber alles! :smokin:

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