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> If the Awakening happened, what would be your..., ideal ratio of Awakened to mundane?
Ideal ratio of Awakened to mundane?
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emo samurai
post Jul 7 2006, 06:57 PM
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If magic came back to the world, what ratio of the population would you think should get ultrapower?

Any logical answer requires at least 1 person get Awakened, and that person is me. :vegm:
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James McMurray
post Jul 7 2006, 07:07 PM
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It wouldn't matter what the percetage was as long as I got to be awakened.
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post Jul 7 2006, 07:09 PM
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How would you even expect us to guess at such a number? That's like saying in 100 years how many people will like blue as their favorite colour.
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post Jul 7 2006, 07:12 PM
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What, there are 6,000,000,000 in the world, approximately? I chose 1%, which ends up being 60,000,000...that's quite a bit of people being awakened...and quite enough, really...
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emo samurai
post Jul 7 2006, 07:13 PM
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I meant as in a social perspective; which ratio would be best for humanity? Or for yourself?
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post Jul 7 2006, 07:17 PM
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Well, I still say 1%. If I was awakened, that would be really cool, but if I wasn't...well, 1% would likely mean I would hardly even notice...well, I would notice, but it wouldn't really effect my everyday life.

They would be on par with athletes and actors and the like...sure, you see them all the time, but its not like I would be bumping shoulders with them or relaly be all that affected...
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emo samurai
post Jul 7 2006, 07:20 PM
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Dude, if you live in a big city, each side of any block has, like, 200 people walking on it. That means at least 2 mages walking on the sidewalk with you. That's still a lot, and I'm assuming mages will be a lot more obvious than any other demographic that makes up 1% of the world population.
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post Jul 7 2006, 08:14 PM
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Hey, I'm all for everyone having the potential to do magic, with enough effort directed towards it. That's always a lot more interesting than being one of the majority of people who can't do something.
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post Jul 7 2006, 08:42 PM
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I see it as, what chance do I have of being active. 100% chance all the way, everyone else is just along for the ride.
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post Jul 7 2006, 08:59 PM
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QUOTE (emo samurai)
Dude, if you live in a big city, each side of any block has, like, 200 people walking on it. That means at least 2 mages walking on the sidewalk with you. That's still a lot, and I'm assuming mages will be a lot more obvious than any other demographic that makes up 1% of the world population.

But you are assuming equal distribution...which I don't think can be assumed. A city with a million people could have more or less than the 1%...and while I grant you some would be more obvious, others would likely not want to draw attention to themselves...I just don't think it would be all that "in your face" in today's world.
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post Jul 7 2006, 09:08 PM
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I vote NOBODY! CHANGE IS BAD! Drastic magical changes are very bad! :silly:
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post Jul 7 2006, 09:15 PM
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I voted everybody awakened...

Because it really depends on the level of magic. Just look at Earthdawn where cooks uses magic to make food taste better.

I really like the concept of "adepts" where you can enhance your everyday tasks.
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post Jul 7 2006, 09:31 PM
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I'd prefer the same ratio that my friends over at Humanis would promote. Something around ZERO sounds nice.
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emo samurai
post Jul 7 2006, 10:15 PM
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Tell me where they live and I'll make sure they're nice and warm for the night. :vegm:
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post Jul 7 2006, 11:11 PM
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Emo, I hope that you realize that magical powers wouldn't give you impunity, not even if you were the only person in the world who had them.
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post Jul 7 2006, 11:18 PM
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Dude, if I were the only mage in the world with initiate grade 4, I could just quicken a Trid Phantasm spell, permanently bind a few elementals, and walk everywhere completely undetected. I wouldn't even have to eat, if he had Nutrition and Fast. If I wanted to kill the president, all I'd have to do is accident his chopper with a great form concealed air spirit. I would be unstoppable, because nobody could find my spells and nobody could dispel them. Of course it would give me impunity.

And in the 6th world, assuming those magic-hating Humanis didn't have wards and stuck to their "principles," then a fireball with erased signatures would solve my little ideological dispute.
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post Jul 8 2006, 12:01 AM
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QUOTE (emo samurai @ Jul 7 2006, 06:18 PM)
Dude, if I were the only mage in the world with initiate grade 4, I could just quicken a Trid Phantasm spell, permanently bind a few elementals, and walk everywhere completely undetected. I wouldn't even have to eat, if he had Nutrition and Fast. If I wanted to kill the president, all I'd have to do is accident his chopper with a great form concealed air spirit. I would be unstoppable, because nobody could find my spells and nobody could dispel them. Of course it would give me impunity.

And then one of two things will happen:
1) You'll get complacent, slip up, and end up paying for it.
2) You'll realize that how dangerous complacency would be and spend the rest of your days wandering the earth in a perpetual state of paranoia, with nobody to confide in or rely on, until the day comes when you can't take the loneliness and fear any longer and decide to put yourself out of your misery. Sounds awesome.
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And in the 6th world, assuming those magic-hating Humanis didn't have wards and stuck to their "principles," then a fireball with erased signatures would solve my little ideological dispute.

Have you ever heard of these things called "motive and opportunity" and "circumstantial evidence?" You'd need an iron-clad alibi if you wanted to escape justice, and if the Star couldn't pin the crimes on you, they'd most likely find some poor patsy to take the heat for you.
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post Jul 8 2006, 01:13 AM
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I am canon. 1%. Heh.
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post Jul 8 2006, 01:40 AM
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It would be much more interesting if you could chose to become awakened.

Join a group and they teach you to see, or take enough theoretical classes and eventually it all clicks and then you see the world with new eyes.

Now if magic and technology somehow interfered with each other. (Gremlins, reduced magic with implants, reduced implant efficiency for those with magic, ect.) Then how many would chose to or not to?

Not to mention the whole "Burn the witch," groups that might arise.
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post Jul 8 2006, 01:47 AM
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QUOTE (Demon_Bob)
Not to mention the whole "Burn the witch," groups that might arise.

"Powerbolt the nerd!!!"
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post Jul 8 2006, 02:03 AM
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QUOTE (Herald of Verjigorm)
QUOTE (Demon_Bob @ Jul 7 2006, 08:40 PM)
Not to mention the whole "Burn the witch," groups that might arise.

"Powerbolt the nerd!!!"

Is that supposed to be a flame or a magical group.

Why would you want to Powerbolt those odd little candies.

You have to spell it out for some of us.
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post Jul 8 2006, 02:27 AM
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QUOTE (Demon_Bob)
You have to spell it out for some of us.

What, you think anti-tech groups wouldn't come along as people see that "the corruption that is technology even silences and blinds the souls of those who rely on it"?

It would be a massive war, techies on one side, mages on the other, and people who don't follow either path distrusted and trampled upon by both.
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post Jul 8 2006, 04:30 AM
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Canon 1% absolute maximum. I like my magic rare and bloody.

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post Jul 8 2006, 04:37 AM
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I agree with the 1% canon setting. It makes more sense, with more people being born every day, the variations are near-limitless. Also, you have to factor in location, political & religeous reactions, mortality rates, ect.
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post Jul 9 2006, 10:25 AM
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QUOTE (Kagetenshi)
Canon 1% absolute maximum. I like my magic rare and bloody.

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Hey, that's almost my opinion: I like my Mage rare and bloddy. :D

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