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Bombshell
post Mar 21 2007, 07:19 PM
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Hello,

me again and my translation. It proceeds unfortunatly really slowy. As usual I marked the hard parts boldface.

QUOTE (Bug City p. 73)
A bug spirit that’s been bonded to a human host develops into one of two forms, true form or flesh form. The true form is a real spirit that resembles a roughly human-sized physical equivalent of the terrestrial insect. Bug spirits of the same type may look slightly different from each other and may possess different abilities. The important point, however, is that the true-form bug spirit is an actual spirit, able to assume a physical form and everything else that other spirits usually can do. True forms also tend to be the smarter form of the two, though no one can say why. And they’re fast, in either spirit or physical form. They’re plenty dangerous, and as spirits they’re a pain in the hoop for the likes of you or me to fight.

Is it right, that the bugs are difficult to fight or is it more a warning for astral aware people?

QUOTE (Bug City p. 74)
Yeah, and if they’re carrying a disguise spell lock, we’re talking about a mass bug-fry.
-- Cobol-san (10:12:26/11-29-55)

Is spell lock disguised or is it a spell lock for disguise spells and whats the mass bug-fry?

QUOTE (Bug City p. 75)
Ant spirits commonly hunt in force. They travel in lines of five to forty ants, depending on the task and the size of the hive. They collect food scraps, plant life, animals, humans -- you name it, they bring it back to the hive.

Can I say something and the ants bring it then back?

QUOTE (Bug City p. 76)
I’ve seen them shy away from it, certainly. Logic holds, though -- the more powerful the bug, the less it fears flames. It’s not the light, by the way, it’s the heat (as far as I can tell).
-- Warlock in Chains (07:29:58/12-07-55)

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QUOTE (Bug City p. 76)
Beetles fall into the loner classification of insect spirits. You’ll rarely find more than one in any single location, but they usually remain close to the home nest. Only attack beetles in groups -- I’ve heard a story of a mother beetle that started chittering when she was attacked and within a couple of seconds the nest was swarming with beetles who’d heard the call.

What is this?

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post Mar 21 2007, 07:32 PM
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"They're plenty dangerous, and as spirits they're a pain in the hoop for the likes of you or me to fight."
To me this says that true form bug spirits are very dangerous. In this context, I think "the likes of you or me" implies that the speaker is mundane, since spirits are notoriously very difficult to fight for people who have no magic. So it's saying that they are dangerous, and since they are spirits they are difficult to fight for non-magic people like you or me.

"disguise spell lock" would be referring to a spell lock that is sustaining the Disguise spell. If it were the spell lock itself that was disguised as something other than a spell lock, it would say "disguised spell lock"

"You name it, they bring it back to the hive." A common english expression. Basically, the speaker is saying, "Anything you can think of, which you believe they might bring back to the hive, they do bring back to the hive."
An example:
Person 1: Do they bring women back to the hive?
Person 2: Yes.
Person 1: What about police?
Person 2: Yes.
Person 1: Babies?
Person 2: Yes.
Person 1: Dogs?
Person 2: Yes. You name it, they bring it back to the hive.
This expression is almost always used as an exaggeration, because you could name Jupiter, but obviously the bugs don't bring Jupiter back to their hive. It just means that they bring just about anything back to the hive.

"Logic holds, though" Basically, it behaves in the way that you would logically expect it to. Bugs fear flames, but it would be logical to assume that since more powerful bugs generally fear everything less, they also fear fire less than weaker bugs do.

"Chittering" is the noise that a large bug might make. You could also say chattering, clicking, or anything else. It's just describing the sound they make. Chittering generally refers to a high-pitched, staccato, repetitive noise.

I hope this helps.
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post Mar 21 2007, 08:22 PM
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I think the bit about spell locks is a holdover from 2nd edition - they used to fill a niche similar to sustaining foci in 3rd edition, no?

Someone who knows more about magic and older editions ought to clarify, but IIRC it was a common tactic to blow up an enemy mage's spell locks as your first priority.
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post Mar 21 2007, 08:38 PM
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QUOTE (mmu1)
I think the bit about spell locks is a holdover from 2nd edition - they used to fill a niche similar to sustaining foci in 3rd edition, no?

You are correct. Spell locks were the 2nd edition version of sustaining foci. They had some significant differences, but filled essentially the same role.
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post Mar 21 2007, 08:52 PM
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To add a little in case it's helpful:

"They're plenty dangerous, and as spirits they're a pain in the hoop for the likes of you or me to fight."
The tone of the sentance is very rough. Pain in the Hoop is the SR version of the english Pain in the Ass. So the speaker here is not simply saying "as spirits they are hard to fight for mundanes." That would miss the flair of the vulgarity.

"Chittering"
Chittering belongs to a class of words called onomatopoeia. That is words that sound like the thing they describe. Like "bang". You might say, "The car banged into the railing when the driver lost control." Chittering comes from chitter, the little bugs are making sounds that come out like, chitter chitter...
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post Mar 21 2007, 09:27 PM
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QUOTE (Bombshell)
Can I say something and the ants bring it then back?

This has been cleared up, but I just want to say that this would be totally awesome.

~J
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post Mar 21 2007, 10:16 PM
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Note: Put a FBI watch Kagetenshi to catch him if he seeks out a insect mentor...
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post Mar 21 2007, 11:18 PM
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"Demerzel's head".

:cyber:

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Postscript: we need some more smilies. Maybe bloodmage and bugmage ?
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post Mar 22 2007, 12:49 AM
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QUOTE (Kagetenshi)
QUOTE (Bombshell @ Mar 21 2007, 02:19 PM)
Can I say something and the ants bring it then back?

This has been cleared up, but I just want to say that this would be totally awesome.

~J

At the same time though, if the queen says, Bring me cake", I think a lot of cake would make its way back to the hive. So as long as the you is the queen, it's got a good chance of coming back to the hive.
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