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post Jul 20 2006, 08:17 AM
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Dollface wasn't always so pretty. Once upon a time he was one rough-lookin', tough-talkin' son of an ork. Then he ate a facefull of birdshot and had to get serious reconstruct done on his face - and unfortunately, it got done on the cheap. Now, with a face that looks like a Botox job gone horribly wrong, and more human than he'd ever like to admit, he's the least threatening looking ork on the block, no matter how massive his muscles are or how big his fists - and his habit of indulging in hallucinogens to remember what it was like to move his face around is starting to get expensive.

He's learned to accept his handicaps and focus on his intellectual side, walking the transmetahumanist path of the street samurai. Someday, when he's grown enough, he intends to get some deltaware Cerebral Boosters and retire to a life of contemplation and introspection - until then, he's quite content working for the corp's in the shadows and waiting, very, very patiently, to be served at the local Quik-E-Mart.

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RACE: ORK (20 BP)

ATTRIBUTES (210 BP) check
Body: 5          10 BP
Agility: 5 (7)   40 BP
Reaction: 5 (7)  40 BP
Strength: 5 (7)  20 BP
Charisma: 3      20 BP
Intuition: 3     20 BP
Logic: 3         20 BP
Willpower: 3     20 BP

Edge: 3          20 BP

Essence: 1.475
Initiative: 8 (10)
Initiative Passes: 1 (3)
Physical Damage Track: 11
Stun Damage Track: 10

ACTIVE SKILLS (138 BP)
Athletics Skill Group: 4*      30 BP
Automatics (SMG's +2): 7* (9)  26 BP
Blades (Sword +2): 4* (6)      14 BP
Dodge (Ranged +2): 4* (6)      14 BP
First Aid (Combat): 1 (3)      6  BP
Negotiation: 2                 8  BP
Infiltration: 1                4  BP
Unarmed Combat: 3              12 BP
Perception: 1                  4  BP
Pilot Ground (Bike): 1 (3)     6  BP
Pistols (Semiauto +2): 3 (5)   14 BP
*Reflex Recorder Aug'd

KNOWLEDGE SKILLS (18 FREE SP)
Aberrantly Extensive Vocabulary: 3
Chinese Philosophy: 2
Italian Opera: 3
Safe Houses: 3
Zen Meditation: 3

LANGUAGES SKILLS
English: N
Japanese: 2
Italian: 2

QUALITIES (+10 BP)
Addiction (Mild, Hallucinogens) (+5 BP)
Blandness (10 BP)
Human-Looking (5 BP)
Incompetent (Intimidation) (+5 BP)
Spirit Bane (Man) (+10 BP)
Weak Immune System (+5 BP)

GEAR AND LIFESTYLE (249,295 ¥) (50 BP)
==== IDENTITY, LIFESTYLE, VEHICLE COSTS: (17,700¥) ===
IDENTITIES: 5,200¥
+ Fake SIN 4: 4,000¥
+ + Fake License 4 for Streetline Special: 400¥
+ + Fake License 4 for Ingram Smartgun: 400¥
+ + Fake License 4 for Bodyware: 400¥
LOW LIFESTYLE, 3 MONTHS: 6,000¥
+ Starting Cash: 3d6+9x50¥
Suzuki Mirage Racing Bike: 6,500¥

==== ELECTRONICS AND SOFTWARE COSTS: (7,125 ¥) ====
PRIMARY COMM: 3,350 ¥
+ Comm: Novatech Airware (1250 ¥)
+ + OS: Iris Orb (1000 ¥).
+ + AR Gloves (250 ¥), Trodes (50 ¥), Subvocal Microphone (50 ¥)
+ + Map/Datasofts, Sim Recordings of opera: 750 ¥
DECOY COMM: 500 ¥
+ CMT Clip (300 ¥)
+ + OS: Vector XIM (200 ¥)
SECURITY TOOLS: 150 ¥
+ Tag Eraser (150 ¥)
SENSOR PACKAGES: (3,125 ¥)
+ Belt Clip w/Atmosphere Sensor 3, Geiger Counter, Olfactory Sensor 6

==== NET 'WARE COST: (187,600 ¥, 4.525 Ess) ====
CYBERWARE (92,600 ¥, 3.8 Ess)
+ Wired Reflexes 2 (Alpha) (64,000 ¥, 2.4 Ess)
+ Dermal Plating 2 (Alpha) (20,000 ¥, 0.8 Ess)
+ Cybereyes (Rating 2, w/Flare Compensation [1], Thermographic Vision [2], Low-Light Vision [2], Protective Covers [-], Smartlink [3]) (4,600 ¥, 0.3 Ess)
+ Cyberears (Rating 1, w/ Audio Enhancement 1 [1], Damper [1], Spatial Recognizer [2]) (3,500 ¥, 0.2 Ess)
+ Datajack (500 ¥, 0.1 Ess)
BIOWARE (95,000 ¥, 1.45 Ess)
+ Muscle Augmentation/Toner 2 (30,000 ¥, 0.8 Ess)
+ Sleep Regulator (10,000 ¥, 0.15 Ess)
+ Reflex Recorders: Athletics, Automatics, Blades, Dodge (55,000 ¥, 0.5 Ess)

==== NET ARMORY COST: (10,020 ¥) ====
ARMOR: 5,000¥
+ Camouflage Suit (1,200¥)
+ + Chemical Protection 4 (1000¥), Fire Resistance 5 (500¥), Insulation 4 (600¥), Nonconductivity 5 (1000¥), Helmet (100¥)
+ Armor Vest (600¥)
SUBMACHINEGUN: 3,095¥
+ Ingram Smartgun X (650¥) 32(c)
+ + Gas-Vent 2 (included), Smartgun System (included), sound suppressor (included), detachable folding stock (included), imaging scope w/ vision magnification, image link, flare compensation (475¥)
+ + Clips of EX Explosive Rounds x5 (1625¥), Clips of Regular Rounds x5 (345)
HEAVY PISTOL: 690¥
+ Ares Predator IV (350¥)
+ + Silencer (200¥)
+ + Clips of Regular Ammo x4 (140¥)
HOLDOUT PISTOL: 285¥
+ Streetline Special (100¥)
+ + Smartgun Mod (100¥)
+ + Clips of regular ammo x5 (85¥)
MELEE WEAPONS: 950¥
+ Monofilament Sword (750¥)
+ Forearm Snap-Blades (150¥)
+ Survival Knife (50¥)

==== B&E AND SURVIVAL GEAR: (26850 ¥) ====
B&E: 295 ¥
+ Chisel (20 ¥), Miniwelder (250 ¥), Wire Clippers (25¥)
SURVIVAL GEAR: 355 ¥
+ Gas Mask (100 ¥), Gecko Tape Gloves (250 ¥), Lightstick (5¥)
MEDICAL: 26,200 ¥
+ Biomonitor (300 ¥), Medkit 6 (600 ¥), Stimulant Patch 6 x2 (300 ¥)
+ Gold DocWagon Contract (25,000 ¥)

CONTACTS (12 BP)
+ Street Doc C2/L2 (4 BP)
+ Fixer C2/L2 (4 BP)
+ Reknowned Opera Singer C2/L2 (4 BP)


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post Jul 20 2006, 10:13 AM
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-you short changed your attributes. 190/200
-you dont take reflex recorders for specific skills when you can take an entire group and get the same skill.
-If you get shot at you can do reaction+dodge(13) or reaction+gymnastics(11). If you get melee attacked its rea+dodge x2 (19) or reaction+gymnastics(11). Is 14bp worth 2 extra dice for firearms and 8 extra dice vs melee?
-why do you have an imaging scope with image link in it to display images?? Plus i think an image scope only allows for one vision mod.
-you took some medical gear but you have no medical skill.

-smartweapons and cybereyes. You either:
A. go through a comm and let urself get hacked
B. skinlink to your eyeballs which means you cant give mental commands to your gun like eject clips.
C. skinlink to a datajack which will give you mental commands.
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post Jul 20 2006, 11:16 AM
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You need to update the essence at the top (it still says 6.) You've also shortchanged yourself on knowledge skills. You get 18 free points of knowledge skills, not 18 free BP. You can add another 5 points of knowledge skills and put those 6 BP somewhere else.
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post Jul 20 2006, 04:00 PM
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Yeah, looks like you have no Commlink. Which it could be hard to get around without.

I think it's 18 free BP, not 18 skill points, but I don't have a book here I should really be working.

BTW thats the best use of an incompetancy flaw I've seen, good job.
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post Jul 20 2006, 04:20 PM
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QUOTE (Lagomorph)
I think it's 18 free BP, not 18 skill points, but I don't have a book here I should really be working.

No, it's skill points. BBB, p. 76: "Your character starts with a number of Knowledge skill points equal to (Logic + Intuition) x 3. You may also purchase additional Knowledge skill points at a rate of 2 BP per point."

(Today, unlike yesterday, I do have my book with me. :) )

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post Jul 20 2006, 04:32 PM
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Skill points are on a 1 for 1 basis at chargen (yes, you buy additional points at 2BP per point) and specializations are also bought at 1 skill point. So you are shortchanged 5 points BEFORE the 1 BP which bought you nothing with.
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post Jul 20 2006, 04:41 PM
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QUOTE (sorcel)
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I think it's 18 free BP, not 18 skill points, but I don't have a book here I should really be working.

No, it's skill points. BBB, p. 76: "Your character starts with a number of Knowledge skill points equal to (Logic + Intuition) x 3. You may also purchase additional Knowledge skill points at a rate of 2 BP per point."

(Today, unlike yesterday, I do have my book with me. :) )

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Ah thanks, it's been a while since I've made a SR4 character. I should really shut up about it if I don't know what it is I'm talking about.
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post Jul 20 2006, 04:44 PM
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QUOTE (Lagomorph)
Ah thanks, it's been a while since I've made a SR4 character. I should really shut up about it if I don't know what it is I'm talking about.

'SOK. I did the same thing yesterday -- no book, and I started spouting off numbers that were hopelessly incorrect. ;)

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post Jul 20 2006, 04:46 PM
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-you short changed your attributes. 190/200


I double checked the math and I don't see how. Keep in mind that I'm an ork and thus start with Body 4 and Strength 3.

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-you dont take reflex recorders for specific skills when you can take an entire group and get the same skill.


The economic principle of comparative advantage dictates that everyone should focus on what they're best at. In my case, that's shooting people with submachineguns. I COULD get a reflex recorder (firearms) instead of reflex recorder (blades, dodge, automatics), but I don't think it would be worth it, despite the Essence savings.

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-If you get shot at you can do reaction+dodge(13) or reaction+gymnastics(11).  If you get melee attacked its rea+dodge x2 (19) or reaction+gymnastics(11).  Is 14bp worth 2 extra dice for firearms and 8 extra dice vs melee?


I'm not clear on what you're advising here?

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-why do you have an imaging scope with image link in it to display images?? Plus i think an image scope only allows for one vision mod.


So I can hook up to my teammate's wireless LAN for AR augmentation - shooting through walls and all that - without compromising my eyeballs to wireless access.

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-you took some medical gear but you have no medical skill.


I'll be defaulting on my tests - let's hope that medkit can walk me through a bullet wound.

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-smartweapons and cybereyes.  You either:
A. go through a comm and let urself get hacked
B. skinlink to your eyeballs which means you cant give mental commands to your gun like eject clips.
C. skinlink to a datajack which will give you mental commands.


I've got a little bit of spare cash - I'll pick up a datajack and go with C.

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You need to update the essence at the top (it still says 6.) You've also shortchanged yourself on knowledge skills. You get 18 free points of knowledge skills, not 18 free BP. You can add another 5 points of knowledge skills and put those 6 BP somewhere else.


Wow! That explains so much. Thanks - I'll invest in a point of First Aid with those 6 BP and solve my medical problem as well.

[QUOTE]BTW thats the best use of an incompetancy flaw I've seen, good job.

Thanks. Originally he was going to have a cyberskull, but, eh - Availability 14.
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post Jul 20 2006, 07:18 PM
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-you short changed your attributes. 190/200



I double checked the math and I don't see how. Keep in mind that I'm an ork and thus start with Body 4 and Strength 3.


You can spend 200bp on physical and mental attributes. This does not include magic, edge, meta type. You have only spent 190bp on physical and mental attributes. You only spent 180 on that face character.

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The economic principle of comparative advantage dictates that everyone should focus on what they're best at. In my case, that's shooting people with submachineguns. I COULD get a reflex recorder (firearms) instead of reflex recorder (blades, dodge, automatics), but I don't think it would be worth it, despite the Essence savings.


I dont know what the hell you just said but whatever. You have automatics and pistol skills so i dont know why you wouldnt take a firearms reflex recorder. You would also have longarms 1. Same thing with blades. It should be close combat.

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-If you get shot at you can do reaction+dodge(13) or reaction+gymnastics(11).  If you get melee attacked its rea+dodge x2 (19) or reaction+gymnastics(11).  Is 14bp worth 2 extra dice for firearms and 8 extra dice vs melee? 



I'm not clear on what you're advising here?


I was just saying is it worth doubling up on a defensive skill for X amount of BP and only x amount of extra dice during those specific tests. Not saying your right or wrong just asking if you thought about it.

You dont have to repost your character sheet just go up to the first post and click the edit button.
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post Jul 20 2006, 07:44 PM
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QUOTE (Abbandon)
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-you short changed your attributes. 190/200



I double checked the math and I don't see how. Keep in mind that I'm an ork and thus start with Body 4 and Strength 3.


You can spend 200bp on physical and mental attributes. This does not include magic, edge, meta type. You have only spent 190bp on physical and mental attributes. You only spent 180 on that face character.

Yes the key word is CAN, he is not required to spend all 200 bp on attributes. You could make a character with 0 points in attributes if you wanted all ones for attributes.
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post Jul 20 2006, 07:53 PM
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QUOTE (Lagomorph)
You could make a character with 0 points in attributes if you wanted all ones for attributes.

Hmmm, so this person is sickly, clumsy, slow, weak, annoying, oblivious, stupid, and callow.
The challenge is: turn it into a viable runner concept. Go!
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post Jul 20 2006, 08:30 PM
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Just buy him high-rating programs and the Computer/Hacker skill groups :P All that extra cash goes to things like a decent commlink and all the other useful stuff.

Hey, not MY fault the RAW doesn't use stats for script-kiddie hacking...
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post Jul 20 2006, 08:58 PM
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QUOTE (Moon-Hawk)
QUOTE (Lagomorph @ Jul 20 2006, 02:44 PM)
You could make a character with 0 points in attributes if you wanted all ones for attributes.

Hmmm, so this person is sickly, clumsy, slow, weak, annoying, oblivious, stupid, and callow.
The challenge is: turn it into a viable runner concept. Go!

hm, I accept your challenge, I'll see what I can come up with. (in another thread of course, don't want to hijack RGE's thread.)

Shrike30: Yes, it would have to be a hacker definately.
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post Jul 20 2006, 09:09 PM
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I've updated my character and I'm already working on the challenge. It's name is Stalker 07, and it's not natural or right in this world.

Edit: Meh, I gave up. I was going down the 'cyberwared to the gills vatgrown clone' route, but it wasn't working out.
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post Jul 20 2006, 09:29 PM
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Okay, I'll start a new thread for this, since I issued the original challenge. Post ideas there.
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post Jul 21 2006, 11:26 PM
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RiotGearEpsilon : I just like your character !
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post Jul 22 2006, 12:47 AM
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Thanks. :)
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