Armor Jacket VRS Lined Coat Options

[Platinum]

[DragginSPADE]

My armor choice varied drastically depending on the situation. Just cruising around the sprawl (the nicer parts of it)? Armor vest, maybe with plates. On a job, but still need some discretion (or just in a really bad part of town)? Regular armor jacket, or secure with a vest underneath. Out of town trip to a desert or jungle environment? Armor vest tops. In my view, a runner needs to stay flexible, which means wearing whatever is apporpriate to the environment and expected threat level.

[warrior_allanon]

for me, form fit body armor always, what tops it on the other hand is dependant on the mission.

Sewer work, i would wear a jumpsuit over them
high times, had a designer suit (post murcurial run)
regular street, generally the long coat with street clothes underneath.

[Demon_Bob]

My last character a hard core' "I wish I had never been discharged from the military" character wore a camouflage outfit with master Sargent stripes and the name Johnson.

[Shrike30]

If we're doing combinations... FFBA III, with a plate vest covering the torso, and a helmet.

[Chrome Shadow]

FFBA and / or Armor Jacket.

The long coat is bad for hiding... and so on...

[Kyoto Kid]

[Jrayjoker]

Auctioneer business clothes, for the low body/high agility players near you.

[Samaels Ghost]

BVD?

[Brahm]

Actioneer Suit, baby! If you are going to go and get yourself shot you're likely going to die anyway, so you might as well leave a stylin' pimp corpse. :smokin:

P.S. My preferences was formfitting underneath. Unfortunately in SR4 that has to be houseruled until Arsenal comes out. Which, unless Fanpro picks up the pace, looks like another year away. :dead:

[Shrike30]

[Gabriel (Argus #...]

Yeah, they do. Any house rules for armor layering in SR4? It seems kind of bland to be restricted to "pick a peice of armor and stick with it!".

Form fitting body armor, while useful, is starting to seem a bit cliche. Is there anybody who didn't use it? Hell, the stuff really isn't that practical. I know I wouldnt want to have to slip into a catwoman suit before putting on the rest of my clothes.

[noname_hero]

[Critias]

[Brahm]

[Shrike30]

Helmets and shields have always given bonuses, though. I could see writing in FFBA as being something like a +2/+1, but it's a reach from previous editions.

This might solve some of the layering issues I've had in the past, though (armored vest + armored jacket, when my interpretation of the armorjack has always been that it's basically a vest, built into a jacket for style purposes, with armored sleeves too).

[DV8]

[Kyoto Kid]

[Kyoto Kid]

..of course the really nice formfit was the Zoe Second Skin. Worn with the Actioneer or another formal line (such as Zoe Heritage) made it almost as good as an armoured Jacket

Leela had several sets which she used when on stage under various lightly armoured formalwear.

[Shrike30]

You know, that particular use of that stuff (wearing it under clothing that wouldn't cover normal FFBA) had never occurred to me. It always struck me as one of those "chainmail bikini" gag items.

[Kyoto Kid]

..true, it does not give the same protection as standard FF but any extra protection is welcome, especially if say you are required to wear (as in Leela's case), say, a Zoe tres chic evening gown. Believe me, gunplay can break out anywhere (that's also what the Tiffany Self Defender and WW Infiltrator are for).

[Snow_Fox]

It depends on the situation. Usually a linded coat. on a run-armored jacket and if it's really bad, camo and jacket.

[Gabriel (Argus #...]

I dunno... I just don't see FFBA anywhere in SR4 and I run my game without it. We do just fine; the game is deadly for everyone involved. The best defense is to not fight or to fight smart.

Since the rules in SR4 state that layering armor only gives you the benefit of the highest rating (a bit silly, I think), you basically have to choose one piece of armor. Since SR4 doesn't have any hit location rules, I dont worry about how covered I am. Even the "called shot to negate armor" is based on the actual armor value, not the relative amount of coverage your armor provides. The real question is do you go with style or substance? Situation to situation seems to be the popular vote, which makes sense. Shadowrunners have to be adaptable.

[Tiralee]

Full-body form Fit suit with rating 10 Fire resist and chemical seal.
Best/easiest min/max for a starting character (Availability 6, +1, +1.)

After that, hell, anything. Partial to the Mortimer Greatcoat or Armante "London Fog" professional for the mages.

Player in group has Medium Mil-Grade armour and quickness to spare, it's his "Sewer-dive" armour. It actualy was used when he was almost "implanted" by 2 incubi on a run not too long ago. (We have it all on camera) Lots on in-character comments of "You new armour seems to be holding up, but there's ominous creaking from the ceramic laminate and your helmet seal"
Player: "GIT IT OFFA ME! SOMEONE!"
GM: "Uh, you know how I said there were two?"
Player: OOC - "you hate me, right?" IC: "OMFG, Magic support, a Fire-elemental would be a good friend to have right now!"
Players (OUT of the sewer): "Sure...coming right up. Elemental, go cook the things trying to molest him."
Elemental: [Cook, cook, cook.]
GM: (Seeing the dice) "Ohh, nice." (To the player) "And you know all that petro-chemical gunge you're wading in?"
Player: "It's flammable, right?"
GM: "Yup"
Player: "So spending that massive wad of cash on fire-proofing my ass is actually going to pay on in the first time I'm wearing this thing?!"
GM: (Consults) "Hmmm, Yup."
Player: "Oh yeah, I'm on fire!"
Gm: "Lucky you had that oxy-supply too, right?"
Player: "Oh, f...I'd forgotten about that."
Gm: "Good thing _I_ didn't"
Player: "Look, can we skip my narrowly-avoided anal probe and continue this mission.
Gm: "After everyone's finished laughing."
Player: "That's cool."


-Tir.

[Fyastarter]