Sensitive System for Magicians?, 15 BP? huh? |
Sensitive System for Magicians?, 15 BP? huh? |
Aug 5 2006, 08:03 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,011 Joined: 15-February 05 From: Montréal, QC, Canada Member No.: 7,087 |
Missed that one until I got to review a first draft for a PC for my campaign.
p.83 SR4 15 BP for double essence cost on cyberware is downright silly when you are magically active or even a technomancer. But what do you know, the Combat mage archetype has it! I probably just gonna say no. Anyone sees a reason for not outright banning this quality for PCs who are magically active? Or why there isn't at the very least a 15 BP (5 for magically active PC) mention? Did I miss an errata? |
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Aug 5 2006, 08:15 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 169 Joined: 13-December 05 From: Portland, OR Member No.: 8,070 |
Personally, I don't see a big problem with it. Magicians spend so much BP as it is, that giving them a little something like this back doesn't bother me when I run games.
I've considered adding some extra stipulations to it, though, like increased penalties for medical/surgical healing and procedures, higher possibilities for essence loss, etc. |
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Aug 5 2006, 08:22 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,430 Joined: 10-January 05 From: Fort Worth, Texas Member No.: 6,957 |
http://forums.dumpshock.com/index.php?showtopic=13850
My stance is to not allow it unless the character concept involves getting some cyber, but the thread linked to above has a lot of different ideas from a bunch of people. |
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Aug 5 2006, 08:24 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,011 Joined: 15-February 05 From: Montréal, QC, Canada Member No.: 7,087 |
Thanks for the kink. When I searched Sensitive System, I got an error message instead of results.
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Aug 5 2006, 08:37 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,430 Joined: 10-January 05 From: Fort Worth, Texas Member No.: 6,957 |
Is that a typo or do I know you in RL? : :smokin: |
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Aug 5 2006, 08:51 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,011 Joined: 15-February 05 From: Montréal, QC, Canada Member No.: 7,087 |
Or perhaps you made a typo on the link and directed me to a kinky porn site, and I was thanking you for that! ... no it's a typo. :embarassed: --- Perhaps I could swap the Sensitive System to 15 (10 for magician) if the PC also accept to double essence cost on bioware. Between a wider ban and a less smaller reward, it seems more fair and less like feebie town. |
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Aug 5 2006, 08:57 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,635 Joined: 27-November 05 Member No.: 8,006 |
In practice it really isn't an issue due to a few factors. Even before factoring in that Geasa, that has now been confirmed are in Street Magic, and their [assumed] effect on making implants more viable for the Awakened. P.S. Ironic that mages will have more options on implants than TMs. :please: But that's really off topic. |
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Aug 5 2006, 08:58 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,430 Joined: 10-January 05 From: Fort Worth, Texas Member No.: 6,957 |
Wow. I knew my prowess was legendary, but didn't realize it had made its way to Canada already. :cool:
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Aug 5 2006, 09:04 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 7,089 Joined: 4-October 05 Member No.: 7,813 |
use one word. two words = mass chaos for the board's search function, it seems. |
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Aug 5 2006, 09:26 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,430 Joined: 10-January 05 From: Fort Worth, Texas Member No.: 6,957 |
I did a search for sensitive system. It's how I found the link I posted above. Maybe it's a browser thing? I'm using IE 6
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Aug 5 2006, 09:54 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,011 Joined: 15-February 05 From: Montréal, QC, Canada Member No.: 7,087 |
It's exactly how it seems to be for me. |
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Aug 5 2006, 10:04 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,430 Joined: 10-January 05 From: Fort Worth, Texas Member No.: 6,957 |
What browser do you use?
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Aug 5 2006, 11:08 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,011 Joined: 15-February 05 From: Montréal, QC, Canada Member No.: 7,087 |
Internet Explorer Version 6.0.2900.2180.xpsp_sp2_gdr.050301-1519
I guess I should just have said IE6, huh? |
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Aug 5 2006, 11:48 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,430 Joined: 10-January 05 From: Fort Worth, Texas Member No.: 6,957 |
It ain't a browser problem then. Oh well. I guess I'm just special. ;)
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Aug 6 2006, 12:46 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,011 Joined: 15-February 05 From: Montréal, QC, Canada Member No.: 7,087 |
Yes, I think you are 'special'.
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Aug 6 2006, 01:20 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 393 Joined: 20-June 06 Member No.: 8,754 |
I ban many negative qualities, and sensitive system for awakened is one of them. If you read the whole book you can tell that SR4 is literally built around the asumption that the GM will houserule the game heavily, qualities should be no different.
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Aug 6 2006, 01:25 AM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
you cant say that 100% until unwired comes out, as i have a feeling (or just a hope) it will contain a whole lot more about these magicans of the matrix. |
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Aug 6 2006, 02:19 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,011 Joined: 15-February 05 From: Montréal, QC, Canada Member No.: 7,087 |
After chatting with the Player, I went ahead and let him play Sensitive System for 15 BP but it will apply also for bioware and he does intend to take a smattering of implants in early to mid-campaign.
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Aug 6 2006, 02:23 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,430 Joined: 10-January 05 From: Fort Worth, Texas Member No.: 6,957 |
That's cool. If he plans to actually make it an issue you don't have to go the route that some have espoused of forcing it to become an issue with unwanted cyberware.
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