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cyberdozer View Member Profile	Aug 25 2006, 11:43 AM Post #51
Target Group: Members Posts: 13 Joined: 6-July 06 From: Reynoldsburg, OH Member No.: 8,843	I am in Columbus, OH and have a Adept also, have run through missions 1-6 , 3-6 were at Origins ... Bodog. Dwarf. Gunslinger Adept, and practitioner of Headbutt Kung Fu. Just wanted to introduce myself to you all. ~~~~~~~~ Now to the biz. I wanted to point out that in the syllabus of your magical group, the ranks of Grand Master and beyond are impossible to achieve unless you are a Dragon or perhaps a Free Spirit. Your Initiate Grade cannot exceed your Magic attribute, so the maximum Initiate Grade for a metahuman Magician or Adept would Initiate Grade 6, giving them a maximum Magic rating of 12. (BTW, ouch on all the karma needed to initiate 6 times and then boost the Magic rating!) I wasn't sure if those ranks were measured against the Magic rating of the Adept or the initiate level, but I wanted to point it out so that your great idea will stand the test of time. Perhaps if Bodog continues to run the shadows of Denver you might approach him someday.

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Aug 25 2006, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE

Your Initiate Grade cannot exceed your Magic attribute

That's true, but that's a variable cap, not a hard cap.

To clarify -- if your character has a 5 magic rating, and he's not initiated, then he has a magic cap of 6, and an initiate grade cap of 5.

If he initiates once, he still has a 5 magic rating and an initiate grade cap of 5, but his magic cap is now 7.

If he the spends karma to raise his magic rating, he suddenly has a magic rating and initiate grade cap of 6.

So, your example character with a Magic of 12 would actually also have an initiate grade cap of 12.

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Tangentially -- Bodog, did your character meet Briefcase Chan? I know both characters were active at Origins. Which'd give you a connection if you wanted in. :)

Zolhex View Member Profile	Aug 25 2006, 06:04 PM Post #53
Project Terminus: Soul Hunters Group: Members Posts: 1,052 Joined: 6-November 03 From: Casselberry, Florida U.S.A. Member No.: 5,798	Yes indeed if you do know of any of the other members you may get an invite, soon even you never know.

Mekalus View Member Profile	Aug 25 2006, 11:40 PM Post #54
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 115 Joined: 28-August 04 Member No.: 6,609	Looks great to me! Tnaks Dunner appreciate your working with us on this one.

cyberdozer

Aug 26 2006, 12:00 AM

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That is good to know about the initiation grades and Magic. I will have to try and lock that away in my wetware for future reference.

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Tangentially -- Bodog, did your character meet Briefcase Chan? I know both characters were active at Origins. Which'd give you a connection if you wanted in. smile.gif

Only if Briefcase Chan was running under a different name - here is the list of runners I ran with: Rikki, B&E Jordan, 33, #19, Kari, The Mountain, Sif, Felix, Nimnu, Mel Gibson, Wraith, and Reaver.

With a reputation of 3 now, I am sure some of you might have heard of me in the shadows ... heh. :grinbig: That is also why I am thinking of scrapping Bodog for a new runner as soon as my Commando starts up running missions here in Columbus. I roleplayed Bodog waaaaaay too goofy in retrospect, and I am debating wiping the slate clean. Thoughts on that from someone who was there, the_dunner?

the_dunner

Aug 26 2006, 01:11 AM

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QUOTE (cyberdozer)

I roleplayed Bodog waaaaaay too goofy in retrospect, and I am debating wiping the slate clean. Thoughts on that from someone who was there, the_dunner?

IMO, the bottom line regarding any gaming session is if everybody's having fun. :D You seemed to be enjoying yourself, as did everybody else at the table. If my judgment of that is correct, then I'd intuitively say stick with that character. If I'm wrong, and you're not having fun, then start a new guy.

Yes, I realize that's a complete non-answer. ;)

cyberdozer View Member Profile	Aug 26 2006, 01:31 AM Post #57
Target Group: Members Posts: 13 Joined: 6-July 06 From: Reynoldsburg, OH Member No.: 8,843	Well, your non-answer still answered my question. While my noodle slowly bakes trying to figure out what I just said ... let me say this. I guess I overplayed him a bit, but alot of that was me being happy to be at the con, away from work, and playing SR again. Also, 29 Karma is alot to walk away from. That said, then, this magical group I don't know about ;) might have heard of Bodog then through shadowtalk, since it appears I have not run with Briefcase Chan as of yet.

the_dunner View Member Profile	Aug 26 2006, 01:44 AM Post #58
Shooting Target Group: Retired Admins Posts: 1,784 Joined: 28-July 04 From: Cleveland, OH Member No.: 6,522	If the group's willing to let you in, I've no good reason to object.

Lost Demiurge View Member Profile	Aug 26 2006, 03:03 AM Post #59
Target Group: Members Posts: 24 Joined: 17-June 06 Member No.: 8,728	Cas, no objections to the list! And hell, if goofy and eccentric is too much, then Chan's overkill. I got no problems with you joining, Bodog. :D As long as the others are fine with it...

Zolhex View Member Profile	Aug 26 2006, 08:45 AM Post #60
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the_dunner

Aug 26 2006, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE (Casazil)

Well now the only problem is we need someone who has worked with Bodog to bring him to our attention.

There are at least three characters on Bodog's list who've run with and Briefcase Chan, John Smith, and Linmayu. So, I'm very comfortable with the supposition that they could meet through a friend of a friend connection. (Casazil, if you played in the interactive, then you met characters who knew him as well.)

Zolhex View Member Profile	Aug 26 2006, 05:24 PM Post #62
Project Terminus: Soul Hunters Group: Members Posts: 1,052 Joined: 6-November 03 From: Casselberry, Florida U.S.A. Member No.: 5,798	Welcome to Fight Club Bodog.

cyberdozer View Member Profile	Aug 26 2006, 10:33 PM Post #63
Target Group: Members Posts: 13 Joined: 6-July 06 From: Reynoldsburg, OH Member No.: 8,843	Thank you for the invitation. I am honored to be included into yer group. Crushes a beer can against his head

Zolhex View Member Profile	Aug 30 2006, 06:38 PM Post #64
Project Terminus: Soul Hunters Group: Members Posts: 1,052 Joined: 6-November 03 From: Casselberry, Florida U.S.A. Member No.: 5,798	Hey guys I am gonna edit the top post and put our group layout in the first post so it is easier to see the group design. I'll also keep it updated so everyone will know when we get new members. Please as you gain levels of initiation post them here. In that intrest Ganavio is now level 3 with Adept Centering, Flexible Signature, and Masking. I'll edit all other posting of the group design so that the first post holds all the info. Dunner feel free to delete any posts that are No longer relavant.

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Aug 30 2006, 07:24 PM

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QUOTE (Lost Demiurge @ Aug 19 2006, 01:06 PM)

Copyright, huh? We're not really making money off of this, so I don't see how it applies.

There's a common misconception that profit is required for IP infringement to take place. It's not - profit is largely irrelevant in determining if a violation has taken place.

That said, copyright and trademark only applies to the venues that the property was registered to. For example, a "McDonalds" shoe store is likely safe from any legal action from the resturant chain, as it is a different venue of business. Unless the resturant chain for some reason had registered a trademark for shoe stores prior.

In this case, "Fight Club" is the name of a movie. I seriously doubt that the owners of that property registered a trademark for Fight Club in relation to roleplaying games.

I could be wrong, though, as I don't have time to run a IP search right now. Fox might very well have registered "Fight Club" in roleplaying games.

-karma

JackRipper View Member Profile	Aug 30 2006, 08:58 PM Post #66
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 633 Joined: 30-May 06 From: Leesburg, Florida Member No.: 8,623	Try this........"Ad Spathas", Latin origin. Used by the Romans, means to fight with arms (also meant to train)

Lost Demiurge View Member Profile	Aug 31 2006, 09:16 PM Post #67
Target Group: Members Posts: 24 Joined: 17-June 06 Member No.: 8,728	You know, I was gonna get angry here. I was gonna rant, and cut loose with a few choice comments on the silliness of the entire situation, topped off with a few suggestions of which parts of their anatomy lawyers could insert this thread into. And round it out by pointing out the irony of worrying about getting sued by copying a leaf from the book of one of the greatest antidisestablishmentarianist films ever made. But then I had a brainstorm. And by golly, you're right, everyone who sounded off on this name that wasn't even in the group! It's better to live in fear of the almighty lawyers, and their evil internet-searching minions, than make a slightly-goofy, intellectual joke. We're done, we've all talked and we're breaking up fight club. We'll post nothing further on it, and we're not going through with it. As this is a sensitive issue, I've composed my thoughts below. Selectively bolded for ease of reference. Why worry about it? Even we can't stand up to the evil that is Fox lawyers. Arguments won't sway us. Really, it was far too much hassle arguing on the boards. Everyone in the club is leaving to find another group. Face it, there's no sense in risking things just for the fun of it. I didn't think it'd work anyway. Go ahead, keep an eye out, you won't find future postings on the club. Heck, you'll probably find only stuff on the movie, if you google. To be honest, it's easier this way. Come next month, you'll have to find another topic to read. Let's not argue about pointless things. Usually, there's something better to argue about. Besides, when all's said and done, It's about fun, not copyrights. Finally, I'd like to say that you'll never hear any further nonsense. On Fight club, either in-game or out-of-game. Really, we're talking about a secret society. Especially, one formed by people who don't exist, that in their own game Virtually don't exist. (Sinless, y'know?) Exit Fight Club, it was a fun idea while it lasted. Really, I'll miss it. Sadly, it's the state of the world that anyone can be sued Over the stupidest things. Because the sad truth is that law Is truly on the side of those with the most money. The common man is left risking financial ruin, to turn aside corporations Eventually, the time will come when Shadowrun's world is a sad reality. My point is that law gets to be more of a three-ring circus Every year. But while I'm saying this... Let's say, hypothetically, that... A group of five people DID want to call themselves Fight Club Without saying it in public, or saying any more on the board, what could You seriously do to them? They could say, "We've disbanded the group, Everyone's no longer in Fight club, it doesn't exist. Can't sue us." Right? So it's no crime, no foul. And only the conspiracy theorists would say, "!!!" Heck, who listens to them? they spend All their time looking for stuff like steganography, anyway. Hey, when all's said and done, All we want is some good clean fun. Harm no one, that's the way to go. And in the end, if you take this topic seriously, the joke's on you.

Zolhex View Member Profile	Aug 31 2006, 09:46 PM Post #68
Project Terminus: Soul Hunters Group: Members Posts: 1,052 Joined: 6-November 03 From: Casselberry, Florida U.S.A. Member No.: 5,798	Now that was an insightfull rant way to go Lost Demiurge this definately shows you have great potental as a leader too bad we are disbanding the group oh well.

Mekalus View Member Profile	Aug 31 2006, 10:30 PM Post #69
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 115 Joined: 28-August 04 Member No.: 6,609	Haha :P points at the bolded caps reading down them for those that missed it

Zolhex View Member Profile	Sep 1 2006, 12:54 AM Post #70
Project Terminus: Soul Hunters Group: Members Posts: 1,052 Joined: 6-November 03 From: Casselberry, Florida U.S.A. Member No.: 5,798	HEY! you spoiled it!

cyberdozer View Member Profile	Sep 1 2006, 02:13 AM Post #71
Target Group: Members Posts: 13 Joined: 6-July 06 From: Reynoldsburg, OH Member No.: 8,843	Perhaps we should take our secret chatter to a dedicated thread. We wouldn't want too much about our organization to be bared for all the world to see. :scatter:

Mekalus View Member Profile	Sep 1 2006, 05:07 AM Post #72
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 115 Joined: 28-August 04 Member No.: 6,609	Aw sorry I didn't mean to spoil it. As far as dedicated we would have to lock this thread or have it erased or something heh. After printing it out of course. :D

Linmayu View Member Profile	Sep 1 2006, 06:46 PM Post #73
Target Group: Members Posts: 9 Joined: 14-August 06 Member No.: 9,112	Damn! I went offline for a few days and missed all the fun! XDXDXD @ Briefcase Chan's post.

Zolhex View Member Profile	Apr 1 2007, 09:09 AM Post #74
Project Terminus: Soul Hunters Group: Members Posts: 1,052 Joined: 6-November 03 From: Casselberry, Florida U.S.A. Member No.: 5,798	I met a rather interesting dwarf tonight a bit loud but by no means afraid to jump right in and get down and dirty. I took the postion of over watch this time so I was out of the main fight tonight but I saw and heard the little guy not only take a beating he also dished out a pretty good one to. I pulled him aside later and told him he was welcome to join us but alas he has turn us down. If I get the chance to work with him again I'll try to recruit him again as I think he would make a good addtion to our organization. Till later chummers Ganavio

Zolhex View Member Profile	Aug 27 2007, 01:00 AM Post #75
Project Terminus: Soul Hunters Group: Members Posts: 1,052 Joined: 6-November 03 From: Casselberry, Florida U.S.A. Member No.: 5,798	Hey with 2 conventions down and D*C approaching fast has anyone advanced their characters or found new members that needed to be added to the list? I met a new guy and he seemed interested in joining so next time I get to talk to him I'll get a decision. He held his own and even came up with a good idea or 2 duing the last few runs I was on with him. Well I have to go so much do to so little time to do it.

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