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Aug 17 2006, 06:34 AM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 934 Joined: 26-August 05 From: Earth - Europe - AGS - Norddeutscher Bund - Hannover Member No.: 7,624 |
Shshshshsh! He could hear you! *looking around paranoidly* |
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Aug 17 2006, 06:54 AM
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Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,314 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Lisbon, Cidade do Pecado Member No.: 185 |
As the sell sheets says, Emergence will deal with the technomancer phenomenon, how it becomes public knowledge, how people (at all levels handle it) and to in no small part what makes TMs different from otaku. The campaign book unfolds during late 2069 and thru 2070 and follows the results of widespread public awareness and good old human nature kicking in. And that's only about the half of it.
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Aug 17 2006, 06:56 AM
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Shadowrun Setting Nerd ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Banned Posts: 3,632 Joined: 28-June 05 From: Pissing on pedestrians from my electronic ivory tower. Member No.: 7,473 |
I fail to comprehend how a society as PC as it is in 2070 becomes insane at the idea of TMs. But that's just me.
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Aug 17 2006, 07:04 AM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 934 Joined: 26-August 05 From: Earth - Europe - AGS - Norddeutscher Bund - Hannover Member No.: 7,624 |
We'll see. I'd bet on a "Wow. Just another oddity"-kind of reaction.
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Aug 17 2006, 07:07 AM
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
it... agh! so, this overrides the hearsay translated from a German fanzine that says that TMs are basically unknown in 2070? i ask because, well, until now that hearsay was really the only flavor text anyone had to go on.
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Aug 17 2006, 07:28 AM
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Neophyte Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,086 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 364 |
I thought one of the FanPro inner circle confirmed that nugget of information as well. Besides, the sellsheet for Emergence seems to confirm it also. If the existance Technomancers is just now becoming frontpage news in the events of Emergence, one might infer that they were unknown prior to those events. |
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Aug 17 2006, 07:32 AM
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
i've had that nugget from other sources, but the German zine translation is the only one i'm sure is public knowledge. i don't care which it is, so long as it's confirmed one way or the other soon, y'know? and so long as TMs get some sort of flavor in the same timeframe. just because i think radio brains are the silliest thing since Hitler-based street gangs doesn't mean i don't want to know what my preciouses are up to.
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Aug 17 2006, 07:36 AM
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Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,314 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Lisbon, Cidade do Pecado Member No.: 185 |
The information from the German newsletter is correct. Technomancers are rarer than magicians and at the start of 2070 society at large is blissfully unaware of their existance and their abilities.
All you need is one hard push in the right direction to go off the edge. |
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Aug 17 2006, 08:28 AM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 199 Joined: 22-March 05 From: vancouver Member No.: 7,215 |
As witnessed so often here on these very forums... :P |
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Aug 17 2006, 08:39 AM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 984 Joined: 15-June 06 Member No.: 8,717 |
So is there going to be some event that freaks out the public regarding technos? Like some terrorist hacking or public airwave hijakcing?
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Aug 17 2006, 03:36 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 207 Joined: 3-November 05 From: KCMO Member No.: 7,922 |
Thanks, Winterhawk. Actually, it makes me feel a little better knowing I was not the only one who missed it...
It sounds like most of the stuff covered is stuff that we've already heard hear on dumpshock, so maybe I didn't miss as much as I thought I might have. Oh, & for the admins, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to provoke any flaming with my thread title, I was just aiming for a play on the seminar title.... |
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Aug 17 2006, 05:35 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 124 Joined: 26-July 06 From: Columbus, OH Member No.: 8,965 |
Dude, be fair. Wraith: the Oblivion rocked. It was Mummy that everyone hated. |
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Aug 17 2006, 06:00 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 633 Joined: 23-February 06 Member No.: 8,301 |
Well, sounds like Emergence won't work with my campaign. I always assumed technomancers were public knowledge, to some degree. The group met a technomancer DJ, even. (Kidnapped her, actually.) Ah, well. I was never good at sticking to a pre-defined world. My game definitely takes place in my own version of Shadowrun 2070.
I'll probably get it anyway, because I think technomancers are neat. |
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Aug 17 2006, 06:51 PM
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Shadowrun Setting Nerd ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Banned Posts: 3,632 Joined: 28-June 05 From: Pissing on pedestrians from my electronic ivory tower. Member No.: 7,473 |
Oh boy. |
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Aug 17 2006, 07:10 PM
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Hoppelhäschen 5000 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,807 Joined: 3-January 04 Member No.: 5,951 |
You try using the official german setting for the AGS. :S |
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Aug 17 2006, 07:38 PM
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Neophyte Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,086 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 364 |
How about running it as a character flashback? |
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Aug 17 2006, 08:22 PM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
Sooo much fun. Not. :S |
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Aug 17 2006, 08:41 PM
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Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,556 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Seattle Member No.: 98 |
Let's see... Magic comes about and people panic? Check. Metas come about and people lynch them? Check. It's discovered, after a rogue AI (hiding in the heads of otaku) crashes the global Matrix and kills or traps millions of people in the process, that some people have developed the ability to broadcast wireless signals from their brains and we think there's a connection to those events? Oh yeah, that's not gonna worry anybody. :S |
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Aug 17 2006, 08:54 PM
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Hoppelhäschen 5000 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,807 Joined: 3-January 04 Member No.: 5,951 |
Huh? Winternight already is the scapegoat. Deus Network never was public knowledge nor were those otaku... and Deus dind't even try to crash the matrix.
Even aside that there is no connection - what do you think worries people more: People taking over their fridge or people taking over their mind? ;) |
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Aug 17 2006, 09:01 PM
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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,430 Joined: 10-January 05 From: Fort Worth, Texas Member No.: 6,957 |
Magical hysteria has died down a lot, but people are always afraid of something new. They've lived 50 years with nobody taking over their mind, but they're probably also experieinced at least one case of identity theft or other hacking crime. That someone can do it with their brain alone will scare people. Sure, logically it's little different than someone doing it with a commlink, but logic rarely matters in mob mentality.
Additionally there is now a huge security problem for corporations. you used to be able to scan people for commlinks if you wanted to keep them from gaining access in your facilitity. Now they can walk through your scans butt nekked and still hack you blind. |
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Aug 17 2006, 09:03 PM
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Hoppelhäschen 5000 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,807 Joined: 3-January 04 Member No.: 5,951 |
In fact, it's very similar to an implanted comlink... which are around soe time, too, and widespread. |
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Aug 17 2006, 09:04 PM
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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 7,089 Joined: 4-October 05 Member No.: 7,813 |
well, by taking over your fridge they can proceed from there to contaminate your food source. they could also take over various other things (like most of your apartment).
for example, they could lock you into your apartment, turn off the phones, activate all your security features... and have half a dozen cleaning/maintenance drones waiting for you inside. furthermore, if you own a sim module (hint: most people will) they can hack that and force you into the matrix and proceed to use black hammer/blackout on you. but what gets *really* scary, is when the rules for psychotropic IC come out. because, as we all know, technomancers can learn any program as a complex form. *any* program. such as a "send me all your money, and be my slave for the rest of your life" program. which they can use on you from more or less anywhere, as long as you have trodes/datajack/implanted commlink and a sim module. so yeah, i could totally see how TMs would become demonized. |
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Aug 17 2006, 09:06 PM
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Hoppelhäschen 5000 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,807 Joined: 3-January 04 Member No.: 5,951 |
You can demonize anyone and their dog. (Especially their dog.)
Just trying to demonize tech-affinity in a hightech world isn't really going to hold well. |
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Aug 17 2006, 09:14 PM
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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,430 Joined: 10-January 05 From: Fort Worth, Texas Member No.: 6,957 |
From a security standpoint implanted commlinks are different because you can detect an implanted commlink. From a personal standpoint they're different because implanted commlinks have been around a while and nobody thinks about them. TMs are new and not understood. Therefore they're scary.
It doesn't matter much if threats have changed any, people want something new to be scared of. It's fairly standard for there to be a "threat" that's the flavor of the month. For awhile it was nukes, then AIDS, more recently it was terrorism, then Armageddon, now terrorism again. |
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Aug 17 2006, 09:31 PM
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Hoppelhäschen 5000 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,807 Joined: 3-January 04 Member No.: 5,951 |
Those that Joe Average owns... but when considering attack scenarios, one does not worry about Joe Average.
Form a personal PoV, nobody will be able to even tell the difference.
TM are nearly unnoticeable in the world of SR. |
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