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 Aug 30 2006, 11:14 PM
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Immortal Elf  Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670  |
no, seriously. i am. here's proof--i'm Monday. don't have the sheet finished yet; i'll post it when it's done.
just wanted to announce this so that everybody who complains about me posting here even though i don't play the game can finally hush their speaking-holes. |
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Aug 30 2006, 11:17 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 684 Joined: 8-April 06 From: My dorm room Member No.: 8,438 |
Congratulations! :D
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Aug 30 2006, 11:23 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,076 Joined: 31-August 05 From: Rock Hill, SC Member No.: 7,655 |
Good show. But if you go technomancer, be prepared to be nothing BUT a technomancer. They are a karmic black hole that makes the karma needs of awakened characters seem laughable and puny in comparison. Also, it's really hard for a technomancer to diversify into other things. Your complex forms also won't be as good as a starting hacker's programs.
However, in a session I played recently, I (temporarily) had a Black Hammer complex form of 9 (which I used to one-shot a tough security hacker) and a Stealth of 7 via smart use of sprites. A well-played technomancer knows how to make their advantages work for them. :) |
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Aug 30 2006, 11:29 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,078 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 67 |
Hey mfb, I started to seriously consider a middle ground between otaku and technomancers for my website. But as I mulled it over, the only thing I could really think of, mechanically, was allowing technomancers to have connectivity cyberware without Resonance penalty (datajacks and the like) instead of radio brains. They'd lose the Signal rating out of their living persona in exchange for the Signal rating for whatever device they are using, but that's about it.
Well, that and general theme/mood development, but that's something that could exist for technomancers even as they are now. |
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Aug 30 2006, 11:38 PM
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Hoppelhäschen 5000 Group: Members Posts: 5,807 Joined: 3-January 04 Member No.: 5,951 |
Wow. So what?
That wouldn't be a 'middle ground' - it simply is an otaku with wireless gear... except if they wouldn't fade. Mechanically, technomancers are the same otaku - the reduction in Utilities resulted in channels being unnecessary. |
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Aug 30 2006, 11:54 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
one path i'd considered was allowing TMs to buy the ability to mimic certain cranial cyberware. the idea was that since TMs could emulate comlinks, they should be able to emulate other computers--smartlinks, etcetera. i bounced it around some, but couldn't ever get it to go anywhere, mechanically.
that's about the only thing that hasn't changed about them, mechanically. |
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Aug 30 2006, 11:56 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 834 Joined: 30-June 03 Member No.: 4,832 |
congrats on playing a TM mfb.
I found a really great optimization yesterday that should help my own TM quite a bit. You will want to get max complex forms at max rating at chargen, the reason is that complex forms are MUCH more expensive karma wise than skill groups. My TM has Tasking, Electronics and Hacking skill groups at 2, and 10 CFs at 5. To take the 30 bp from CF's and use them on the skill groups to raise to 3 would mean that during play I'd have to spend around 96 karma to raise the CF's to get back to 10 CFs at rating 5 , or spending 45 karma to raise the skillgroups all from 2 to 3. which means that in relative terms, it's twice as effective karma use to dump into skillgroups rather than complex forms. If I could, I'd drop points to get those at rating 6, but I'm having to draw the line somewhere. |
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Aug 31 2006, 12:00 AM
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Shadowrun Setting Nerd Group: Banned Posts: 3,632 Joined: 28-June 05 From: Pissing on pedestrians from my electronic ivory tower. Member No.: 7,473 |
You want to blow their minds? Tell them who else is playing, and who the GM is. |
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Aug 31 2006, 12:01 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 684 Joined: 8-April 06 From: My dorm room Member No.: 8,438 |
:eek: |
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Aug 31 2006, 12:02 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
here's something i'm curious about--with the dearth of flavor for TMs, how have people been playing theirs? my guy is basically batshit loco, struggling desperately at every moment to hang onto his sanity. he sorta accepts what he sees and hears (several of his technomancer abilities manifest as his many tattoos talking to him) without actually believing that any of it's real. a practical example of how to function if you're no longer able to trust your own senses, sorta.
well, i didn't want to cause any significant cardiovascular events. |
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Aug 31 2006, 12:03 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,078 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 67 |
Yes, I know. Hence the "but" at the beginning of the second sentence. |
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Aug 31 2006, 12:12 AM
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Shadowrun Setting Nerd Group: Banned Posts: 3,632 Joined: 28-June 05 From: Pissing on pedestrians from my electronic ivory tower. Member No.: 7,473 |
:D |
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Aug 31 2006, 12:19 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 834 Joined: 30-June 03 Member No.: 4,832 |
I decided that my TM would personify his abilities as the Logrus from amber. Which in the Amber series of books is the ultimate representation of chaos, a black inky tentacled and tendril'd mass with eyes and mouths everywhere. Given how much the matrix and computers are based on order, it made sense to me that a TM would be an instrument of chaos in the ordered structure of the matrix, and so thats how it became represented to my TM. |
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Aug 31 2006, 12:26 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
what about personality-wise? does he view his abilities as something he's developed, or something that happened to him? has gaining them affected his lifestyle and social habits? in what circumstances did he gain them? does he even know he has them? |
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Aug 31 2006, 12:32 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 684 Joined: 8-April 06 From: My dorm room Member No.: 8,438 |
My TM does accept what she sees and hears as "reality," she just has doubts about whether certain ordinary experiences are really ordinary - as opposed to being carefully orchestrated by an evil AI in order to manipulate her into following his agenda. She's heard about how Deus twisted his otaku into serving his horrible ends, and she's terrified of the prospect of being twisted in a similar way. Ever since she discovered that there's a fourth AI, she's been questioning almost every moral dilemma she encounters (e.g. "Oh Em Gee! That old lady is being mugged! I have to help her...unless that's what he wants me to do! But she needs help...unless she's actually working with him! But - Aw drek, the mugger got away...").
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Aug 31 2006, 01:24 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 615 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,895 |
AI / Alice Inside (Alice if your her friend):
Alice knows she 'talks' to the machince, but perhaps since her views of the world are slightly skewed anyways (or more accurately rarely cares what the 'norm' is) doesnt overly bother her anymore. Shy very introverted, Alice developed very much a loner. She had lots of imaginary friends, and it seemed natural when they started talking back. Not caring if she was 'going crazy' or 'just imagining them' she soon learned what she could and couldnt do. Know she knows she is 'different' from most, but doenst let it bother her. She 'plays along' with most and carries a comlink or three. Doesnt directly draw attention that half the time she forgets to use them.... but 'tries' to fit in sinxe people just hassle her less. She like the early mages... the world might think you are crazy, but when you can prove you can do the stuff, well the look on their faces sort of prove you arent crazy :-) peace |
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Aug 31 2006, 02:10 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,430 Joined: 10-January 05 From: Fort Worth, Texas Member No.: 6,957 |
I can only hope that Cain is not playing also. That could be the Unholy Trinity that signals the Twilight of Man. :)
Keep us updated! |
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Aug 31 2006, 02:17 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,507 Joined: 27-January 05 From: ...and I'm all out of bubblegum Member No.: 7,021 |
Take that TM to a dead zone. Think he's loco now? Have those talking tattoos all of a sudden not talk. Should freak him out a bit more than nomal.
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Aug 31 2006, 02:58 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 615 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,895 |
Yeah tell me about it.
Alice is currently working for somebody who lives is a isolated bunker.. She chats with his Fridge, lights, and the few other wireless things people take into the bunker, since she cant talk to anything outside.... Now the one I am dreading is the first time somebody hits her with a jammer stronger then her signal..... Not sure what that kind of overload the GM will decides does to her. (edited to fix an possibly embarring freudian slip) "His um refrigerator, thats what I said." (Ok sp alice might have a crush so far on the only person she's met that hasn't reated her as a freak (or more recently a good looking body), but actually seemed interested in her abilities and 'her'....) |
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Aug 31 2006, 03:16 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 7,089 Joined: 4-October 05 Member No.: 7,813 |
i assume what you meant to say, is that she talks to his *fridge*, right? |
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Aug 31 2006, 03:37 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 615 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,895 |
hmm did correct the original since it was a typo ... but then again according to Webster's it is correct :-) Fridge 2 entries found for fridge. To select an entry, click on it. Main Entry: fridge Variant(s): also frig /'frij/ Function: noun Etymology: by shortening & alteration :-) Hmm learn something new every day, and honestly I do enough typo's (when not coding for some reason) that if they have a spell check I use it.... The spell checker here even accepts 'frig' |
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Aug 31 2006, 04:09 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 207 Joined: 3-November 05 From: KCMO Member No.: 7,922 |
My team got so annoyed with my ADD routine when they took me into a dead zone, that they bought me a satellite uplink so I can stay "in touch". LOL My TM is still kinda young. I'm playing her as a little sheltered, too. She learned early on, though, that she needed to try to fit in, or end up having demands put on her that she didn't want to deal with.... |
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Aug 31 2006, 04:36 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 47 Joined: 26-February 02 From: London, England Member No.: 1,680 |
A TM that I am currently playing has named himself David Gurney. Basically he is a 30+ year old man who a marketing executive testing the latest in nano-trode rigs when the crash happened. He was stuck in VR for days, and when he came out, his entire life had been erased. (David Gurney is a character form a twilight Zone episode who awakens to find that no one, not even his wife, recognises him).
He basically became a bum, wandering the UCAS, talking to his imaginary friends (based on people he had known in his past life), until one day he asked a friend for a coke and one rolled out of a machine. He doesn't really know what to make of his abilities, but he isn't going to look a gift horse in the mouth. Being an ex marketing exec/coprprate con man, he is all for the quick sell and easy fix, and also about "conning" systems into doing what he wants. |
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Aug 31 2006, 04:37 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
Monday, human technomancer:
[ Spoiler ] generating the numbers took me about as long as it does to create a good SR3 char. coming up with a concept that fit SR4's streamlined ideas about street levelness took quite a while longer. for several days, i was torn between trying to crappy-ize a character (my concept for a troll TM with cyberarms was going okay, right up until i got to the section on cyberlimbs) and just using the default TM from the book--a character which fell fairly far short of my standards for awesomeness. |
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Aug 31 2006, 06:21 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 341 Joined: 3-October 05 Member No.: 7,802 |
Um... Knives with str of 1? And no pistol? This strike anyone else as odd?
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