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 Sep 4 2006, 05:36 AM
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Running Target  Group: Members Posts: 1,213 Joined: 10-March 02 From: Back from the abyss. Member No.: 2,316  |
Two things I see wrong with that page, is one it says the book is hardbacked. When has SR ever had a hardback other then the limited run BBBs adn it also says its goign to ship in 1 to 3 weeks. So far the earliest anyone including dog has stated is 8 weeks.
EDIT: Amazon has always been a horrible place to find release dates on any RPG book. Its been shown time and again on this site people finding SR release dates there and they are even remotley close. And they have a SR4 GM screen listed. I have seen here that there is no such animal and there hasnt been one printed. |
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Sep 4 2006, 05:59 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 734 Joined: 30-August 05 Member No.: 7,646 |
SR4: Limited Run BBB Regular print BBB Street Magic Arsenal is also sporting the same price tag as street magic. I'm guessing Augmentation and Unwired will as well. |
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Sep 4 2006, 06:10 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 199 Joined: 22-March 05 From: vancouver Member No.: 7,215 |
Yah, as far as I know and have seen all of the Shadowrun 4 sourcebooks will/have been Hard Cover.
I think that is the way RPG's have been going in general over the last couple of years. |
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Sep 4 2006, 06:12 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 500 Joined: 4-September 06 From: Salt Lake UT Member No.: 9,299 |
Actualy I redgistered here tonight because i found Arsenal on amazon and i wondered what it was. I've had my SR4 book for three days and the lack of suporting material is killing me. Befor i rediscovered Dumpshock amazon was the only way i could find out what might be coming up.
BTW: what is Arsenal (will it have unarmend combat rules and firearms builds?) where do i look for upcoming stuff? (more sr4 vehicles please! ;() |
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Sep 4 2006, 06:20 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,213 Joined: 10-March 02 From: Back from the abyss. Member No.: 2,316 |
Well I guess thats something new. Good for them. Though personally paying for hard back is not worth it in my mind.
Point Im trying to make is release dates are never what they are. I have seen SR books held up for months, I have seen one make it to the printers and still delayed once there. I have seen them printed and then distribution ties them up. It will do everyone well to just play the game and when the book shows up on the shelves prance around like its christmas time and go get it. Trying to predict the release dates or waiting for one that you heard about is an excercise in futility and not really worth it. A release scheduel only serves to let you know that certain books are possible but even then those books dont always materialize, like that one nicknamed Boo! Scarey book of SR creatures, or what ever the hell it was called. Hell Shadows of Latin America was written but never released, its been promised to be released on Holonet for over a year now and its still not out. Like its been said already, no one is calling the posters here or the people that work for Fanpro liars. Its just best to pretend release dates were never given and act suprised when its released other wise youll just get madder and madder as the dates come and go with out the book. |
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Sep 4 2006, 06:24 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 734 Joined: 30-August 05 Member No.: 7,646 |
Arsenal is Guns, Armor, and things that go boom. I suspect it will have Unarmed fightin styles a la Man & Machine, if you have that book, however that's purely speculation. I suspect there will also be expanded snifty gear for covert/special ops. Maybe a section on running Merc campaigns.
It may also have vehicles, but if so, I suspect they will military focused. I believe there's an update to Rigger 3/3.5 scheduled but I'm not sure hat it's called ... it might be part of Arsenal (I wouldn't be surprised if they handled general vehicles in Arsenal and Drones in unwired), but I doubt it. I hope there will be a firearm design/customization system like there was in Canon Companion. Someone else can probably give you a more accurate picture as I kind of glazed over the short description Adam (sorry), I think, gave me at Gencon. :sheepish grin: |
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Sep 4 2006, 07:13 AM
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Prime Runner Group: Retired Admins Posts: 3,929 Joined: 26-February 02 From: .ca Member No.: 51 |
Arsenal will have non-military vehicles and firearms customization rules.
OneTrikPony: keep an eye on shadowrunrpg.com -- we'll be posting info on the rest of the year's releases later this week. [I didn't realize that it was missing Arsenal still.. agh.] |
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Sep 4 2006, 07:33 AM
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Karma Police Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,358 Joined: 22-July 04 From: Gothenburg, SE Member No.: 6,505 |
Never, ever trust Amazon.com... When did it become ok for a company to sell products they don't even have, and lie about the time in which they will reach the customer?
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Sep 4 2006, 07:43 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 500 Joined: 4-September 06 From: Salt Lake UT Member No.: 9,299 |
SWEET! and once we get the cyberware rules this might be a game i would take the time to play :) :) |
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Sep 4 2006, 08:42 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 858 Joined: 25-August 03 From: Braunschweig, North German League, Allied German States Member No.: 5,537 |
All of the SR4 corebooks will be hardcover - BBB, Street Magic, Arsenal, Unwired and Augmentation! Sourcebooks are still softcover... |
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Sep 4 2006, 08:46 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 858 Joined: 25-August 03 From: Braunschweig, North German League, Allied German States Member No.: 5,537 |
Should read: I hope there will be a firearm design/customization system way more thought-out, play-tested and less abusable than in Canon Companion. |
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Sep 4 2006, 09:24 AM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
They actually hit the release dates for Eberron-sourcebooks really good. ;) |
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Sep 4 2006, 10:34 AM
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Hoppelhäschen 5000 Group: Members Posts: 5,807 Joined: 3-January 04 Member No.: 5,951 |
Or, even better: I hope there will be no firearm design system like there was in Canon Companion, but some nice, balanced and easy customizations. |
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Sep 4 2006, 10:48 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,498 Joined: 4-August 05 From: ADL Member No.: 7,534 |
Dont hope, that is confirmed. No design, but a cusomization system.
Source: FANPRO Qestion and answers at Ratcon. |
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Sep 4 2006, 11:03 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 934 Joined: 26-August 05 From: Earth - Europe - AGS - Norddeutscher Bund - Hannover Member No.: 7,624 |
That's good news.
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Sep 4 2006, 03:39 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 296 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Usually under a cat Member No.: 864 |
So far, the vehicle, drone, and firearm customization/modification systems have been getting good reviews from playtesters, and they've been one of the more heavily reviewed and revised sections of the rules. I think there's a good chance that folks will be pleased. |
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Sep 4 2006, 04:22 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 239 Joined: 21-August 05 Member No.: 7,586 |
now, that leaves me with the hope that someone will create some sort of sr3 -->sr4 conversion guide.. because i liked vehicle design in sr 3
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Sep 4 2006, 05:42 PM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
heh, nothing like being able to make a van that could break the sound barrier and then some.
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Sep 4 2006, 05:49 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 239 Joined: 21-August 05 Member No.: 7,586 |
that was a customization thing, not a design system prob...
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Sep 4 2006, 07:02 PM
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Hoppelhäschen 5000 Group: Members Posts: 5,807 Joined: 3-January 04 Member No.: 5,951 |
Design rules were a problem because you made things that were better in every way - and potentially even cheaper.
Customisation applies to equipment alike, so it's not that problematic. |
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Sep 4 2006, 07:28 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 734 Joined: 30-August 05 Member No.: 7,646 |
Gah! No! Please tell me there is still going to be a design system. One of the nice things about the design systems was that it meant that you didn't have to detail so many vehicles and weapons. Don't amputate when you can fix it. |
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Sep 4 2006, 08:17 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 681 Joined: 28-February 06 From: UK Member No.: 8,319 |
Aw sod it, I just want lots of luvverly pictures of guns, vehicles and drones. Not even all that fussed about the stats ;)
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Sep 4 2006, 11:20 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,537 Joined: 27-August 06 From: Albuquerque NM Member No.: 9,234 |
I liked how you couldn't make a commercial airplane that could fly across the atlantic, or a vector thrust that could fly 150 km without running out of fuel. :P Ok, I though it sort of sucked myself. But it's really hard to make a vehicle design system that doesn't really suck, so I'd rather have them spend time on doing a bunch of non-sucky vehicles rather then on a system that is probably just not going to work out well. |
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Sep 4 2006, 11:45 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 239 Joined: 21-August 05 Member No.: 7,586 |
they screwed up with the vehicles in the core book, what makes u think, they are gonna perform better with arsenal? |
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Sep 4 2006, 11:49 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,537 Joined: 27-August 06 From: Albuquerque NM Member No.: 9,234 |
Hope over experiance? I still find it odd that they never produced stats for the Doc-Wagon helos that allowed the crew and passengers that they said fit to fit. |
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