Conjuring or spellcasting?, Which do you like better? |
Conjuring or spellcasting?, Which do you like better? |
Sep 5 2006, 10:22 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,589 Joined: 28-November 05 Member No.: 8,019 |
Is being able to throw a fireball yourself cool, or is being able to summon a living one yourself better?
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Sep 5 2006, 10:48 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 734 Joined: 30-August 05 Member No.: 7,646 |
Yes.
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Sep 6 2006, 12:08 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 168 Joined: 6-August 06 Member No.: 9,033 |
I second this motion. |
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Sep 6 2006, 12:13 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,556 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Seattle Member No.: 98 |
I agree.
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Sep 6 2006, 02:38 AM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,589 Joined: 28-November 05 Member No.: 8,019 |
Aye.
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Sep 6 2006, 03:49 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,206 Joined: 9-July 06 From: Fresno, CA Member No.: 8,856 |
Affirmative
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Sep 6 2006, 03:52 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 745 Joined: 12-August 06 Member No.: 9,097 |
You're all wrong and your mothers look like hippopotami.
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Sep 6 2006, 07:35 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 26-June 06 Member No.: 8,781 |
I totally agree with the first 2 replies but not the last few. Their points are all valid, but the third posting was eloquently put. :wobble:
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Sep 6 2006, 08:42 AM
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Awakened Asset Group: Members Posts: 4,464 Joined: 9-April 05 From: AGS, North German League Member No.: 7,309 |
A simple yes, implying "both"?
Wrong. Setting fire to something is obviously cooler than conjuring something that can make fire. |
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Sep 6 2006, 09:00 AM
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Shadow Cartographer Group: Members Posts: 3,737 Joined: 2-June 06 From: Secret Tunnels under the UK (South West) Member No.: 8,636 |
Amen. |
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Sep 6 2006, 09:01 AM
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Freelance Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 7,324 Joined: 30-September 04 From: Texas Member No.: 6,714 |
I prefer spellcasting. So much so, in fact, most of my magically active characters have been Sorcerous Adepts in previous editions (I've yet to make a mage in SR4, but they all see karma-intensive enough it seems like that trend may continue).
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Sep 6 2006, 10:19 AM
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Shadowrun Setting Nerd Group: Banned Posts: 3,632 Joined: 28-June 05 From: Pissing on pedestrians from my electronic ivory tower. Member No.: 7,473 |
I'm a big fan of spellcasting as well. It just seems so much more versatile in both the long and short-term.
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Sep 6 2006, 03:16 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,589 Joined: 28-November 05 Member No.: 8,019 |
But power... think of the POWER!
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Sep 6 2006, 04:14 PM
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jacked in Group: Admin Posts: 9,037 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 463 |
Spellcasting is more fun, more versatile and more powerful. 8)
Bye Thanee |
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Sep 6 2006, 04:25 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Banned Posts: 3,732 Joined: 1-September 05 From: Prague, Czech Republic Member No.: 7,665 |
Anything you can cast, a spirit of man can cast bigger and better. All you need is one net hit for the spirit of man to appear (which you average if your Magic + Summoning is Force +3) and then the spirit casts your spell of choice with a dice pool of double its Force.
So if your dicepool is 7+, you conjure spirits who are better at spellcasting than you are. The breakeven point is, amusingly enough, the minimum Force for a Spirit to know one of your spells at all. How awesome is that? And there are 10 spirit types to choose from, all of whom do cool things. So much so that you can make a legit argument that you don't even need Spirits of Man. So really, the entire spellcasting discipline is a subset of conjuring that perfectly reasonable people might decide not to take on the grounds that the rest of the options are better. So there's no way I'll agree to spellcasting being more "powerful" than Conjuring. Although it is pretty neat that Stun Bolt is the best answer to spirits - there's nice Rock/Paper/Scissors going on there. And that's probably why the advocates of Conjuring andthe advocates of Spellcasting are essentially equal in number. -Frank |
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Sep 6 2006, 04:47 PM
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Shadowrun Setting Nerd Group: Banned Posts: 3,632 Joined: 28-June 05 From: Pissing on pedestrians from my electronic ivory tower. Member No.: 7,473 |
Hardly an objective analysis.
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Sep 6 2006, 04:53 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 750 Joined: 9-August 06 Member No.: 9,059 |
Oppenheimer: Nuclear weapons are more powerful than a slingshot.
SL James: Hardly an objective analysis. Well, I'm sold! |
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Sep 6 2006, 06:58 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 734 Joined: 30-August 05 Member No.: 7,646 |
Set fire with a spell .... or set fire using a Fire Elemental ... IOW, both :) |
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Sep 6 2006, 11:00 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 831 Joined: 5-September 05 From: LAX, UCAS Member No.: 7,687 |
Sorcery, all the way. It's more fun :D
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Sep 7 2006, 03:30 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 360 Joined: 18-March 02 From: Plymouth UK. Member No.: 2,408 |
Spells over spirits.
You always have the spell handy, but the importance of spirits cannot be overlooked. It's just a spell can save your neck, whereas a spirit must be told to. |
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Sep 13 2006, 07:32 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,556 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Seattle Member No.: 98 |
I'd rather be able to do something myself than to have something done for me.
Then again, there's something to be said for having others do all the hard work :) |
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