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Walknuki
post Sep 21 2006, 07:38 PM
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So if I have an internal commlink do I need anything to view or hear the data coming off of it? If someone sends me a picture of a monkey picking his nose do I see that, or do I need goggles or cyberwear image link?

What about inputting data? Do you need an external device (gloves, keyboard) or can you just think the commands in?
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post Sep 21 2006, 08:17 PM
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now i understand why some versions of the rules have internal comlinks listed with sim modules allready in place :P
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post Sep 21 2006, 08:18 PM
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QUOTE (Walknuki @ Sep 21 2006, 02:38 PM)
So if I have an internal commlink do I need anything to view or hear the data coming off of it? If someone sends me a picture of a monkey picking his nose do I see that, or do I need goggles or cyberwear image link?

What about inputting data? Do you need an external device (gloves, keyboard) or can you just think the commands in?


Simsense takes care of all that...granted, for most of us that is a hard concept to grasp, but if you can be completely immersed in a virtual world (matrix VR, BTLs, etc), then you can also make that same case for hearing voice, seeing images and whatnot with just DNI devices, specifically an internal commlink with sim module.

The thing is, that it is likely a lot harder to figure out whether a voice is coming from two feet away or you are listening to your voicemail. People that have this sort of setup could oftentimes seem to be distracted or always asking you to repeat yourself, if they are actively engaged with their comms.

Same goes for input...you think what you want to say, the DNI transfers that to your comm and then it goes out like any other communication from a commlink...it could be an email, it could be a phone call...the input device is your brain, which can mimic voice, keyboard or images...
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post Sep 21 2006, 08:27 PM
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Also, aren't internal commlinks kind of a rip-off? A regular commlink comes with a music player, micro-trid/holo projector, touch screen display, camcorder, microphone, image/text scanner, RFID tag reader, GPS, keyboard, chip player, credstick reader, earbuds, and of course, a case and voice access controls. Now granted, you have no need for a keyboard, earbuds, touch screen, or voice access with an internal commlink. But you're missing out on all of those free scanners, the RFID, credstick, and chip readers, the holo projector, and the camcorder. Unless, of course, you buy more cyberwear (cybereyes, for example) to duplicate what you're getting for 2k less if you buy a regular commlink.

Why would you even want all of those? If I have AR contacts why would I want a holo projector, more specifically who whould ever want one. It's a huge privacy risk.
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post Sep 21 2006, 08:47 PM
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I especially love the brain to brain talk... it's been in the fiction forever but this is the first time i've seen it printed in a rulebook.


Is everyone forgetting the simple radio or cellphone implant plus transducer combo? "Brain to brain" as it gets, and it's been around for a while now.

...Wonderful implant, the Transducer. Several of my SR3 characters had one.

My Reporter Lana Lane would use a Micro Transceiver/Transducer patch to do real time relays of Vid and Audio from her eye/headware recording system to the media van parked a ways away.

Leela would use hers to set off radio detonators during demolitions jobs - skate past the front (after the charges were set), wave at the guards, blow them a kiss, turn around and skate away down the street. The next thing you know, the building behind them explodes.

Night Angel would perform recon while being in direct communication with the rest of the team without blowing her cover (her Transceiver was disguised as a necklace - love SOTA '64).
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post Sep 21 2006, 08:54 PM
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Yeah, I think all of my characters had one until I had the epiphany of

"If I'm making a character that only needs commo capability while on runs, and he isn't the sneaky type (in other words, isn't going to care whether someone can see his comms gear), then I don't have to waste essence on commo implants."

I have no idea when this finally occurred to me, but I remember thinking "that took too long to realize".
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post Sep 21 2006, 08:55 PM
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QUOTE (Cognitive Resonance)
QUOTE (JonathanC @ Sep 21 2006, 01:52 AM)
Also, aren't internal commlinks kind of a rip-off? A regular commlink comes with a music player, micro-trid/holo projector, touch screen display, camcorder, microphone, image/text scanner, RFID tag reader, GPS, keyboard, chip player, credstick reader, earbuds, and of course, a case and voice access controls. Now granted, you have no need for a keyboard, earbuds, touch screen, or voice access with an internal commlink. But you're missing out on all of those free scanners, the RFID, credstick, and chip readers, the holo projector, and the camcorder. Unless, of course, you buy more cyberwear (cybereyes, for example) to duplicate what you're getting for 2k less if you buy a regular commlink.

Why would you even want all of those? If I have AR contacts why would I want a holo projector, more specifically who whould ever want one. It's a huge privacy risk.

Well, what if you needed to display something for other people? Or scan something? Take a picture? Record some video? Read an RFID Tag or a Credstick?

You'll spend even more money buying all of the cyberware to get you the equivalent of what you're getting for free from a regular commliink.
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post Sep 21 2006, 09:34 PM
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it just hit me that the datajack is described as basicly having a transducer buildt in these days. and isnt a implant comlink described as having a datajack buildt into it?
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post Sep 21 2006, 10:45 PM
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QUOTE (hobgoblin)
it just hit me that the datajack is described as basicly having a transducer buildt in these days. and isnt a implant comlink described as having a datajack buildt into it?

No, implanted commlinks do not, as far as I know, come with a datajack.
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post Sep 21 2006, 11:36 PM
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apparently not.
it appears that it basicly says its a implant version of the normal comlink.
and given that the description the normal is quite general (the equipment/functions list starts with the word most) one cant realy say what functions a implant comlink does have, or not...
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