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Sep 20 2006, 03:23 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 681 Joined: 28-February 06 From: UK Member No.: 8,319 |
Probably not. |
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Sep 20 2006, 05:37 PM
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Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,589 Joined: 28-November 05 Member No.: 8,019 |
Examples? I think I get it pretty well.
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Sep 20 2006, 05:55 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 681 Joined: 28-February 06 From: UK Member No.: 8,319 |
I suspect he's getting at the fact that alignments might not be meant to be totally rigid, but more of an inspirational guideline- a general destination rather than a specific route, so to speak. An aspiration more than an attitude.
Or something like that. |
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Sep 20 2006, 06:33 PM
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ghostrider ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Retired Admins Posts: 4,196 Joined: 16-May 04 Member No.: 6,333 |
Alignment is circular. Too many people see it as being a straightjacket, an unachievable standard to which their characters must aspire. This misunderstanding is often the only thing motivating a persons dislike of the alignment system, which is sad.
I have a lot of writing about this, but sadly it currently resides on another machine. If anyone is still interested in it at a later date, and I can remember to, I'll post it. Right now I don't have the desire to rewrite what I've already got. |
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Sep 20 2006, 09:38 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 834 Joined: 30-June 03 Member No.: 4,832 |
I'd be interested to see what you've written about the subject.
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Sep 20 2006, 09:56 PM
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ghostrider ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Retired Admins Posts: 4,196 Joined: 16-May 04 Member No.: 6,333 |
When I get finished unpacking and the machine is up and running, I'll be glad to post what I can find.
That's assuming my machine still runs...we had the MOVERS FROM HELL. |
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Sep 25 2006, 10:34 PM
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ghostrider ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Retired Admins Posts: 4,196 Joined: 16-May 04 Member No.: 6,333 |
The following linked threads at WotC contain a lot on my views on, and ways of handling, alignment in D&D. Just as with any set of viewpoints, this one is malleable, and thus may not currently be exactly as you'll see here.
I still don't have my machine up and going, but this ought to be enough to satisfy the...one request. :D http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=546431 http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=547340 (I'm Slyde Shadowdart.) |
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Sep 25 2006, 11:28 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 619 Joined: 18-April 03 From: The UV Nexus Member No.: 4,474 |
What he said! You can go to this website to learn your dnd alignment. After that, you should discuss your alignment on the WOTC Wizards forums. If you want to talk Shadowrun alignments: how about hero, villain, and mercenary ? Maybe you prefer Samuri, Ninja, and Ronin? |
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Sep 26 2006, 12:19 AM
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Mystery Archaeologist ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,906 Joined: 19-September 05 From: The apple tree Member No.: 7,760 |
We all know that alignment has two axis.
So I'm Ronin Hero(or hero ronin I suppose). Actually thats quite a cool scale. |
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Sep 26 2006, 12:59 AM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 619 Joined: 18-April 03 From: The UV Nexus Member No.: 4,474 |
DnD uses a 2 dimensional alignment scheme. I think the Shadowrun universe is more complex than DnD. I imagine a runners alignment as a vector in an n-dimensional space. A n-dimensional space can have as many parameters as there are ways you characterize yourself, and a vector has both magnitude an direction. In other words, Samurai is an alignment (Yeah! I said it! OTOH: if you compare the SR4 Street Samurai example to the one in SR3, and you will see that while both follow a code of honor, the SR4 text is toned down compared to SR3). Mercenary is also an alignment. Mafioso, ditto. Yakuza, Ninja, Eco-terrorist, ditto. Mentor spirits, yeah. Add to that a description of your commitment - the magnitude of your alignment vector. Are you a Ninja wannabe, a weekend warrior, or an assassin with 15 kills. I guess shadowrun already uses street cred and notoriety to measure your "runnerness". I guess you could also use something like essense as an inverse measure of your sammyness ;) |
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Oct 6 2006, 10:30 AM
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Midnight Toker ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 7,686 Joined: 4-July 04 From: Zombie Drop Bear Santa's Workshop Member No.: 6,456 |
What do you mean that my Paladin can't use the Hand of Vecna? Am I supposed to run around with a bleeding stump?
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Oct 16 2006, 09:36 AM
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1 Joined: 13-October 06 From: Austin, Texas Member No.: 9,613 |
I suppose I'd be close to true neutral, even if I don't achieve it, I strive for equality in all things, with perhaps a bit of a leaning towards my own beliefs in the matter of justice... Lawful neutral, perhaps? Shit, I need to go back and read those descriptions again.
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