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Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,065 Joined: 16-January 03 From: Fayetteville, NC Member No.: 3,916 ![]() |
Ok, you sign up for Corporate Duty.
Your choice: "Special Projects" You remember signing the dotted line, you might even remember basic training. After that, according to your contract fine print, your memory is wiped of all information until the end of your enlistment. Depending on your contract terms, you either keep any implanted cyberware or might receive cash options. Your medical profile may be limited depending on security concerns: (if you were exposed to an experimental nerve gas, they are not obliged to report it accurately, or at all). Besides "screwed", what other flaws would you tack on? -2 bad rep: Corporate Soldier -2 amnesia: No memory of enlistment period -2 command word: Kill (Willpower 6 to resist killing specified target upon receiving command word. Additional Willpower 6 roll to remember actions after receiving "clear" signal) -1 distinctive feature: Barcode on shoulder. Contains file reference number for corp employment records. (Sorry, after fencing with Polaris and watching "Soldier" in the background, I couldn't resist...) -Siege |
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Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,066 Joined: 5-February 03 Member No.: 4,017 ![]() |
Barcode is not needed. Nanites can etch the essential data into his skeletal structure. Having a radio-response barcode on each bone makes it easier to sort the parts if something goes wrong.
Proper procedures should leave the kill word TNs at "nearly impossible" according to the book comparison. TN of 6 may be too easy since no corp would waste the big money on people who will drop at the first poorly placed stunball. Mysterious cyberware, addiction, compulsion and/or vulnerabilities that make absolutely no sense. Possibly select by a roll of die. |
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Traumatizing players since 1992 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,282 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Las Vegas, NV Member No.: 220 ![]() |
Whatever happened to the 1st edition/2nd edition "Data Filter" cyberware that handled those pesky memories during the durations when it was turned on? vanished?
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Beetle Eater ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,797 Joined: 3-June 02 From: Oblivion City Member No.: 2,826 ![]() |
Data Filter is in SR3. Data Lock (P'Fix addition) is in M&M.
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Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,065 Joined: 16-January 03 From: Fayetteville, NC Member No.: 3,916 ![]() |
The bar code captured the whole "off the shelf" feeling, but you're right about the nano-tags.
You're probably right about the Willpower to resist roll -- I'll have to look at CC again. Although I'm not sure how a corp would "test" or "screen" a Willpower stat. :grinbig: What do you think of the basic idea? The spin on the Amnesia flaw? It's almost like the concept behind "Johnny Neumonic". Edit: The datafilter would compromise a soldier's learning curve. "We" want him to be as skilled and experienced as possible while he's working for us. Afterwards, he'll have reflexes and skills, but the details and memories we'll want to erase. -Siege |
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 ![]() |
interesting idea. for the kill word, how about simply extending the duration of the compulsion? leave the TN at 6, but you have to resist the compulsion for three rounds.
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 227 Joined: 18-August 03 Member No.: 5,513 ![]() |
I like it. I love it. That movie was so wrong on so many levels but I'm convinced it was written by a closet Shadowrun player. :smokin:
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Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,065 Joined: 16-January 03 From: Fayetteville, NC Member No.: 3,916 ![]() |
Remember that books by authors like Gibson and Walter Jon Williams and others spawned the whole "cyberpunk" genre.
It makese sense that professionally creative people have explored some really spiffy ideas. :D -Siege |
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Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,066 Joined: 5-February 03 Member No.: 4,017 ![]() |
Get the entire group of potentials into a room, have one mage cast a stunball at a standard testing level. Everyone who stays standing gets to go to round 2 the next day, end when you have a group close to the size you want to add to the sleeper assassin forces. |
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King of the Hobos ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,117 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 127 ![]() |
Like people said, M&M. Plus you don't want goons that can only remember something for a couple minutes at a time. Makes you all distracted - increasing TN's - and gets in the way of things like training and remember what the actual mission was. For something like this you'd be better of dosing them with laes so they only have holes in their memories of the actual job - and after they've been thoroughly debriefed. If they could find a way to make a cyberware version of laes they'd be set. |
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Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,065 Joined: 16-January 03 From: Fayetteville, NC Member No.: 3,916 ![]() |
Herald: Oh, that would just suck.
DI: "Today we test your Willpower. Line up! About face! Eat mana!" Recruits: "Huuuuuuuuuuuu.....thud." Although that's a hell of a way to teach the lesson, "Geek the mage first!" Flak: autoinjector with encoded radio controls? :grinbig: -Siege Edit: Although that does make for an interesting idea...could someone learn to resist spells through repeated exposure? Using that kind of training exercise, could someone learn "Resist Stun Spell" (for example) as an Active skill? Oh, that's just a bad idea from beginning to end. |
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 97 Joined: 17-March 03 Member No.: 4,269 ![]() |
You could always use that as the grounds for purchasing Magic Resistence Edge. While there is no "magic resisting skills" the Johnson (Nigiel) in the First Run mission Supernova has been taught to notice the use of magic and is granted a -1 to the tests to notice it. |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 113 Joined: 5-January 03 From: Butte County, CA Member No.: 3,836 ![]() |
How about the kill word (once he's failed to resist whatever test is first required) gives a temporary +4 willpower, -1 to intelligence and +4 to further kill word resist tests. That'd pretty much take care of mana based stunballs right there, kinda like one of those drugs in Shadowtech (and just think of what's going to happen to the exhausted guy when it wears off). ;)
This post has been edited by ShieldT: Oct 21 2003, 01:23 PM |
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,311 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Calgary, Alberta Member No.: 2,062 ![]() |
Hey, howabout a variation on Personafix. THe guy in charge has a button. Press the button, the lackeys follow orders and think of nothing else. To be truely effective, they'd need personality and experience, imho, but it's almost as good. |
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Why oh why didn't I take the blue pill. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,545 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gloomy Boise Idaho Member No.: 2,006 ![]() |
Theres a move coming out with Ben Affleck where he sign a contract to have his memory erased after each job. It looks pretty interesting and may be worth watching for ideas on Shadowrun.
The movie is called Paycheck and you can watch the trailer by clicking the blue word :D |
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Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,065 Joined: 16-January 03 From: Fayetteville, NC Member No.: 3,916 ![]() |
Actually, to expand on Mikey's idea, controlled p-fix chips could work.
As I have lamented before, there isn't a detailed listing of how they work. In the 1st edition adventure, a "Jack the Ripper" chip was profoundly nasty. Now, imagine a nasty hacker group cracked a chip company and one chip out of every 1,000 had an emotional compulsion on it... A p-fix chip could (theoretically) alter moods and emotional structures -- the infamous "berserker" chip that cranks adrenaline and endorphines while filling the user with homicidal rage. Similar manifestations could be fear suppression or enhanced concentration and focus abilities. Although subliminal programming could achieve a similar effect. Translating that into a balanced bit of game mechanic has always been...problematic at best. -Siege |
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Traumatizing players since 1992 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,282 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Las Vegas, NV Member No.: 220 ![]() |
That module was DreamChipper... and was pretty damn cool, I still have it.
They killed the person that slotted them tho... |
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Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,065 Joined: 16-January 03 From: Fayetteville, NC Member No.: 3,916 ![]() |
If I recall properly, the "Dreamchipper" chips also added skills without requiring skillwires, which could explain the inevitable fatality.
I'll have to rummage for that module and see if they can provide a base line for expounding on p-chips. -Siege |
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