DnCrg SR4 Character Generator (Early Dev)

DnCrg SR4 Character Generator (Early Dev), looking for comments, suggestions, help

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dog_xinu

Sep 24 2007, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE

@Eleazar
My email is [me] at [brandonkent].[com] Adding stuff from the new books should be straightforward unless they have added new things to keep track of.

if you need help adding stuff to the .xml files, email me (dogxinu [at] shadowrunatl [dot] com). I am willing to add some/help out.

thanks

augurer

Sep 24 2007, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE (blakkie @ Sep 20 2007, 04:19 PM)

QUOTE (thewolf @ Sep 19 2007, 09:45 PM)

The program should work as extracted no matter where it is copied to.

Nope. :rotfl: Welcome to the brave new world of file redirection under Vista. Sadly I haven't seen anywhere on the 'net or even the Vista tech books, muchless from Microsoft themselves, that fully explains how it all works. It took me and a coworker about a week of gathering info for a number of sources and testing the behavior on both x86 and x64 to understand all the ins and outs. But I will tell you that it definately matters which directory it is installed to because the Program Files and Windows directories, and sub-directories thereof, have a different security setting and behavior than others.

If you don't intend to have it work for Vista...well people that think Vista is just going to go away like Windows Millenium did don't really understand how the two situations are very different. Or understand why these issues spring up from Vista working towards the tighter security found under many other OSes while trying to support the less security legacy practices.

If you aren't going to support Vista that's your choice. But you are really only going to be cutting out a growing potential userbase that you can include with relatively little tightning of the code.

I have vista on both of my laptops, and the application runs just fine. I just unzipped it to "c:\program files\DNCRG" and it works okay. Vista warns me that the application is not digitally signed, but other than that I have no issues. Granted, I "installed" and ran the application with an admin account.

blakkie

Sep 24 2007, 09:30 PM

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QUOTE (augurer)

I have vista on both of my laptops, and the application runs just fine. I just unzipped it to "c:\program files\DNCRG" and it works okay. Vista warns me that the application is not digitally signed, but other than that I have no issues. Granted, I "installed" and ran the application with an admin account.

Maybe there is a different source for the error then. But it isn't in the initial screen.

It worked to start with but then I went to a tab. I didn't bother to screen cap as my screen cap program is set up for sending the snaps to the company debug FogBugz database.

I changed to a different tab (not Magic, forget which one but I think it is one that is suppose to work). It was trying to open an XML file in the Programs Files (x86) directory where the app was coppied to. I assumed it was trying to open the file in Write mode, which will fail due to security.

blakkie

Sep 24 2007, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE (dog_xinu @ Sep 24 2007, 05:02 AM)

So making things Vista compatible can be a challenge especially if you do not have a vista machine to test against.

A lot of it is now making a rule of things that were guidelines. Guidelines that many programmers ignored. Including hacks at Microsoft (you try to get several thousand people to all listen to you ;) ).

The main one in question here, at least I'm guessing from the error message, is: Don't open or create in write mode any file in the applications directory. If you must open a file there use read-only.

It is only if you choose to ignore that rule that things get really complicated. Because you can sort of work around it. And sometimes you can write the files. But they'll go off into the user's private store. Which while it works is bad because that is one bloated place already. It's sort of like cleaning your room by using a shovel to push all the junk on the floor under the bed. :dead:

P.S. Yeah, testing is definately important. I'll try to get a screen cap next time. But for now I've removed the app from my machine.

augurer View Member Profile	Sep 25 2007, 01:37 PM Post #280
Target Group: Members Posts: 56 Joined: 19-July 07 Member No.: 12,304	I just opened the app from my c:\program files\dncrg directory, running Vista Business 32b, and cycled through every tab without issue.

blakkie View Member Profile	Sep 26 2007, 01:54 AM Post #281
Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,718 Joined: 14-September 02 Member No.: 3,263	It wasn't just going to the tab. You have to edit something, I forget what though. This is why screen caps and note taking is critical for professional testers. ;) The screen cap alone would likely have done it. I did have a screen cap utility running but it is hooked up to send the screen cap off to the FogBugz bug tracking tool which I use for work. No worries though. When the program gets closer to complete, if the bug hasn't been fixed yet, I'll come back, install again, and break it to grab a screenie. 8)

rythymhack View Member Profile	Oct 9 2007, 06:18 AM Post #282
Target Group: Members Posts: 72 Joined: 7-October 07 Member No.: 13,597	ok. the program works fantastically. however, when i use the 'adept' sub tab of the magic tab i get this: ************ Exception Text ************ System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object. at DnCrg.Character.get_AttrIntuition() at DnCrg.Character.get_FreeKnowledgeBuildPoints() at DnCrg.Character.get_RemainingFreeKnowledgeBuildPoints() at DnCrg.Form1.UpdateAllFields() at DnCrg.Form1.button16_Click(Object sender, EventArgs e) at System.Windows.Forms.Control.OnClick(EventArgs e) at System.Windows.Forms.Button.OnClick(EventArgs e) at System.Windows.Forms.Button.OnMouseUp(MouseEventArgs mevent) at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseUp(Message& m, MouseButtons button, Int32 clicks) at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m) at System.Windows.Forms.ButtonBase.WndProc(Message& m) at System.Windows.Forms.Button.WndProc(Message& m) at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage(Message& m) at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m) at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam) i know that previously the magic tab was not working. however, the ONLY thing that does this is the adept sub tab. (augmentation was doing this before, but a reinstall fixed this...no such luck on this one though).

Alphastream View Member Profile	Oct 11 2007, 06:43 PM Post #283
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 103 Joined: 21-August 07 Member No.: 12,814	I found that the program failed to run (generated an error similar to the one posted by the user in New Zealand) if I ran it from a networked drive. As soon as I moved it to the C drive, it then worked. I had the /Data directory in both cases. Teos

rythymhack View Member Profile	Oct 11 2007, 07:19 PM Post #284
Target Group: Members Posts: 72 Joined: 7-October 07 Member No.: 13,597	the first available drive is h:/ . for some reason, it wont let me make a c:/ . it doesnt do that for augmentation...(ok...once or twice). it also appears that if i monkey with something i saved, it eventually generates that error. sometimes when im just looking and have the file open.

Alphastream View Member Profile	Oct 13 2007, 05:54 AM Post #285
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 103 Joined: 21-August 07 Member No.: 12,814	I tried out the program. I really liked it, and it did its job of helping me choose things very well. Unfortunately, I ran into another problem (first was the install, as noted before). When I go to save, it gives me an error. Since there is no print option... Doh! Any fixes for this?

thewolf View Member Profile	Oct 19 2007, 06:33 AM Post #286
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 313 Joined: 11-July 05 From: Kansas, USA Member No.: 7,493	I think there are some issues with the XML character source that are causing all of these errors. I'll see if I can work on that.

thewolf View Member Profile	Oct 19 2007, 08:00 AM Post #287
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 313 Joined: 11-July 05 From: Kansas, USA Member No.: 7,493	(Dev Site) Fixed the nasty error that was causing all of the problems, I think. I also switched things over to binary serialization, so no more XML character files. I don't think it will be that big of a deal. The binary files are faster to load and smaller in size. I was thinking about the best way to handle the print issue. I'm leaning towards XML spreadsheet, but I'd have to test and make sure OpenOffice loads it ok. Thoughts? Also, I can repackage whenever someone gets the new DAT files for me that include Augmentation gear. I noticed I passed a year of development on this project. It sucks it is taking this long, but when I program during the day I rarely want to program some more when I get home. I hope everyone finds the program to be useful even if it is not as polished as it should be at this point.

Alphastream View Member Profile	Oct 22 2007, 09:16 PM Post #288
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 103 Joined: 21-August 07 Member No.: 12,814	I'll test it soon. One thing I noticed is that capacity is not taken into account with cyberwear. So, I get cybereye and get low-light and flare comp, they are shown as taking up more essence when they should not unless the capacity of the cybereye is exceeded. Thanks! Teos

thewolf View Member Profile	Oct 23 2007, 01:18 PM Post #289
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 313 Joined: 11-July 05 From: Kansas, USA Member No.: 7,493	You're probably adding the cyberware accessories wrong. Add the parent item (Cybereyes II, for example) and then right click on its entry. You can then accessorize it with thermographic vision, lowlight, etc.

Eleazar

Oct 29 2007, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE (thewolf)

Also, I can repackage whenever someone gets the new DAT files for me that include Augmentation gear.

Yeah yeah, I hear ya. Expect something soon.

fatal2ty View Member Profile	Oct 29 2007, 10:39 PM Post #291
Target Group: Members Posts: 79 Joined: 11-July 07 Member No.: 12,214	any chance of getting a port to Linux? unless somebody has gotten it running under Wine

thewolf View Member Profile	Oct 30 2007, 12:47 AM Post #292
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 313 Joined: 11-July 05 From: Kansas, USA Member No.: 7,493	Theoretically it would run under the Mono project, if they have WinForms support. Mono is an implementation of the .Net Framework under Linux.

Eleazar View Member Profile	Nov 6 2007, 02:21 AM Post #293
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 398 Joined: 16-August 06 Member No.: 9,130	Status Update: I have added all of the Cyberware, Bioware, Symbionts and Biodrones with some exceptions. {Customized Cyberlimbs, Bulk Modification, Optimized Cyberlimb, Modular Cyberlimb, Modular Plug-in, Cyberweapon Mounts, Modular Plug-in Adaptation, Cyberware Suites, and finally Biosculpting.} Also to note. Nothing in the Attribute Mods list has been filled in yet, nor any of the page reference numbers. Dog_Xinu, if at all possible I would like to submit what I have currently accomplished for your analysis and correction. Please email me at [jonathan223] at [gmail].[com] Also, anyone else willing to analyze and correct the augmentation datasets, please email me as well. I currently have them in an .xls format. If you prefer, I can easily convert them to the native format for you. Genetech, Nanotech, Medtech. I will tackle each one in the next three days. So that means tomorrow is Genetech, followed by Nanotech on Wednesday, and finally Medtech on Thursday. EDIT: Dog_Xinu, I just caught your email. Sending it to you now.

Eleazar View Member Profile	Nov 16 2007, 05:36 PM Post #294
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 398 Joined: 16-August 06 Member No.: 9,130	Did you guys receive my emails?????

thewolf View Member Profile	Dec 24 2007, 09:54 PM Post #295
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 313 Joined: 11-July 05 From: Kansas, USA Member No.: 7,493	FYI - I am performing a hosting change, so DnCRG files and the download page will be unavailable for a day or so while I get everything switched over. I will post the new URL for files as soon as I have it.

dog_xinu

Dec 25 2007, 06:10 AM

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QUOTE (Eleazar)

Did you guys receive my emails?????

I did not get your emails. did you send it to dogxinu (at) gmail (dot) com?

Sorry I didnt see your post before now.
dog.

thewolf View Member Profile	Dec 25 2007, 04:37 PM Post #297
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 313 Joined: 11-July 05 From: Kansas, USA Member No.: 7,493	DnCRG Download Page

klinktastic View Member Profile	Dec 25 2007, 06:13 PM Post #298
Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,244 Joined: 2-August 07 Member No.: 12,442	Great program! From what I can tell, its awesome.

thewolf View Member Profile	Dec 26 2007, 05:01 PM Post #299
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 313 Joined: 11-July 05 From: Kansas, USA Member No.: 7,493	Thanks for the compliment. It's not really all I would like it to be, but maybe it will get there someday. Before Shadowrun 5th Edition anyways.

klinktastic View Member Profile	Dec 28 2007, 03:18 AM Post #300
Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,244 Joined: 2-August 07 Member No.: 12,442	You should make the column of the totals be differentiated from the other columns. For example, with the stats, you have like 3 or 4 columns, the totals should stand out for quick use ease. Something to think about.

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