DnCrg SR4 Character Generator (Early Dev), looking for comments, suggestions, help Options

[KeyMasterOfGozer]

I started with Skills at random.

Here are a few notes for your approval:

[thewolf]

@deek
10/29 would be the absolute earliest I could get a decent build done. Probably after that though. I haven't really added a great deal of features since the last one yet, just bug fixes primarily.

KeyMasterofGozer
Looks good. Skills is an easy one. Gear and Augmentations will be much harder. As a tip, I imported the DAT file into Excel, then used Excel to put the information in, then exported back to a CSV and changed the commas to pipes (using Find/Replace). Placement at the tail end is better.

PS, I get a 404 on your link.

[deek]

@thewolf
No hurry, I just wanted to get an idea on your timeframe. That will allow me to block some time out and determine just what I want to attack on a testing front. If something was coming out really soon, I would just hold off.

Seeing we have a few days, perhaps a week or two (maybe more), I'll continue to hit the current build! Thanks!

[KeyMasterOfGozer]

[thewolf]

Still getting a 404 here. Interesting. Email is fine, thanks,

[craigpierce]

404 for me too...

i tried http://www.atuin.org/files and then clicked on skills.dat with no luck either.

this doesn't seem important - just more of an FYI.

[KeyMasterOfGozer]

Ok, forget that other link, I don't see why it is not working, but this should work:
Zip of DAT files with Books and Pages added

I started adding Data in Adept Powers, but adding data was taking a long time, so I went adhead and put book and page on all the files, I'll repost with Street Magic Data when I finish, hopefully this weekend.

[thewolf]

@KeyMasterOfGozer
Radical. I will work on getting those attributes put into the classes. I even noticed you put in the additional adept powers too!

[Eleazar]

What I ran across with the Troll Bounty Hunter:

1. The attribute Agility for Trolls does not function at all. (confirmed Deek's error)
2. The Professional knowledge skills are not sorted alphabetically like all the other knowledge skills
3. The Sioux Language is missing
4. There isn't any current way to have an implant take up capacity rather than essence.
5. The ultrasound vision is missing from Eyeware under the Augmentations Tab
6. Reaction Enhancers are missing from the Bioware
7. I get the below error when I just saved the Bounty Hunter and then tried to load the Bounty Hunter. When I tried to load the Bounty Hunter I did not exit the program after I had saved. I saved and then I went to load right after.
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Unhandled exception has occurred in your application. If you click Continue, the application will ignore this error and attempt to continue. If you click Quit, the application will close immediately.

Value of '1/1/0001 12:00:00 AM' is not valid for 'Value'. 'Value' should be between 'MinDate' and 'MaxDate'.
Parameter name: Value.
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Here is the full detailed report:


See the end of this message for details on invoking
just-in-time (JIT) debugging instead of this dialog box.

************** Exception Text **************
System.ArgumentOutOfRangeException: Value of '1/1/0001 12:00:00 AM' is not valid for 'Value'. 'Value' should be between 'MinDate' and 'MaxDate'.
Parameter name: Value
at System.Windows.Forms.DateTimePicker.set_Value(DateTime value)
at DnCrg.Form1.LoadExistingCharacter(Character existingCharacter)
at DnCrg.Form1.openToolStripMenuItem_Click(Object sender, EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.RaiseEvent(Object key, EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripMenuItem.OnClick(EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.HandleClick(EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.HandleMouseUp(MouseEventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.FireEventInteractive(EventArgs e, ToolStripItemEventType met)
at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.FireEvent(EventArgs e, ToolStripItemEventType met)
at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStrip.OnMouseUp(MouseEventArgs mea)
at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripDropDown.OnMouseUp(MouseEventArgs mea)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseUp(Message& m, MouseButtons button, Int32 clicks)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.ScrollableControl.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStrip.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripDropDown.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)


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Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.42 (RTM.050727-4200)
CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/Microsoft.NET/Framework/v2.0.50727/mscorlib.dll
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DnCrg
Assembly Version: 1.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 1.0.0.0
CodeBase: file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/z014763/Desktop/DnCrg_SR4_Barbados_10212006/DnCrg.exe
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System.Windows.Forms
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Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.42 (RTM.050727-4200)
CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Windows.Forms/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Windows.Forms.dll
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System
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Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.42 (RTM.050727-4200)
CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.dll
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System.Drawing
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Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.42 (RTM.050727-4200)
CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/Accessibility/2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/Accessibility.dll
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System.Xml
Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.42 (RTM.050727-4200)
CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Xml/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Xml.dll
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************** JIT Debugging **************
To enable just-in-time (JIT) debugging, the .config file for this
application or computer (machine.config) must have the
jitDebugging value set in the system.windows.forms section.
The application must also be compiled with debugging
enabled.

For example:

<configuration>
<system.windows.forms jitDebugging="true" />
</configuration>

When JIT debugging is enabled, any unhandled exception
will be sent to the JIT debugger registered on the computer
rather than be handled by this dialog box.
END OF REPORT


When I hit continue everything seemed to be ok. Also one last comment is that clicking File, Exit does not exit out of the program.

EDIT: I just noticed that I can't load the Troll Bounty Hunter saved .xml without receiving this error. I get it everytime I try to load the .xml file. My previous statement about everything seeming to be ok is wrong. The only reason I saw the data for the Troll Bounty Hunter was because it was already there due to me typing everything in. When I exited out of the program and then tried to load the file, nothing loaded. So the loading isn't working at all for me.

[DireRadiant]

Probably laoding an empty xml node when it's expectign a value. It is more likely to be the fact the file wasn't saved correctly initially.

[Fortune]

[Eleazar]

Here is the whole .xml file. Everything looks intact as far as I can tell. Of course I don't have any experience with .xml, so that isn't saying too much.

FORTUNE:
You are correct about the Reaction Enhancers. The Bounty Hunter has Ultrasound Vision in the BBB listed as a Cybereye add-on. Though, I just looked and found Ultrasound under Headware.

[ Spoiler ]

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8" ?>
<character>
<system>
<generator_version>Barbados</generator_version>
<filename>C:\Documents and Settings\z014763\My Documents\Buggy_Bumpers.xml</filename>
</system>
<basic_info>
<real_name>Buggy</real_name>
<street_name>Buggy Bumpers</street_name>
<archetype>Buakko</archetype>
<created_by>Joen</created_by>
<gamemaster>Loser</gamemaster>
<creation_date>10/27/2006 2:19:22 PM</creation_date>
<gender>Female</gender>
<height></height>
<weight></weight>
<hair></hair>
<eyes></eyes>
<descriptive_notes></descriptive_notes>
<birth_date>1/1/0001</birth_date>
<birth_place></birth_place>
<birth_notes></birth_notes>
</basic_info>
<attributes>
<body>
<min_natural>5</min_natural>
<purchased_value>3</purchased_value>
<augmented_value>0</augmented_value>
<max_natural>10</max_natural>
<max_augmented>15</max_augmented>
<total_karma_cost>0</total_karma_cost>
<total_bp_cost>30</total_bp_cost>
</body>
<agility>
<min_natural>1</min_natural>
<purchased_value>0</purchased_value>
<augmented_value>0</augmented_value>
<max_natural>5</max_natural>
<max_augmented>7</max_augmented>
<total_karma_cost>0</total_karma_cost>
<total_bp_cost>0</total_bp_cost>
</agility>
<reaction>
<min_natural>1</min_natural>
<purchased_value>2</purchased_value>
<augmented_value>0</augmented_value>
<max_natural>6</max_natural>
<max_augmented>9</max_augmented>
<total_karma_cost>0</total_karma_cost>
<total_bp_cost>20</total_bp_cost>
</reaction>
<strength>
<min_natural>5</min_natural>
<purchased_value>3</purchased_value>
<augmented_value>0</augmented_value>
<max_natural>10</max_natural>
<max_augmented>15</max_augmented>
<total_karma_cost>0</total_karma_cost>
<total_bp_cost>30</total_bp_cost>
</strength>
<charisma>
<min_natural>1</min_natural>
<purchased_value>1</purchased_value>
<augmented_value>0</augmented_value>
<max_natural>4</max_natural>
<max_augmented>6</max_augmented>
<total_karma_cost>0</total_karma_cost>
<total_bp_cost>10</total_bp_cost>
</charisma>
<intuition>
<min_natural>1</min_natural>
<purchased_value>2</purchased_value>
<augmented_value>0</augmented_value>
<max_natural>5</max_natural>
<max_augmented>7</max_augmented>
<total_karma_cost>0</total_karma_cost>
<total_bp_cost>20</total_bp_cost>
</intuition>
<logic>
<min_natural>1</min_natural>
<purchased_value>2</purchased_value>
<augmented_value>0</augmented_value>
<max_natural>5</max_natural>
<max_augmented>7</max_augmented>
<total_karma_cost>0</total_karma_cost>
<total_bp_cost>20</total_bp_cost>
</logic>
<willpower>
<min_natural>1</min_natural>
<purchased_value>3</purchased_value>
<augmented_value>0</augmented_value>
<max_natural>6</max_natural>
<max_augmented>9</max_augmented>
<total_karma_cost>0</total_karma_cost>
<total_bp_cost>30</total_bp_cost>
</willpower>
<edge>
<min_natural>1</min_natural>
<purchased_value>2</purchased_value>
<augmented_value>0</augmented_value>
<max_natural>6</max_natural>
<max_augmented>7</max_augmented>
<total_karma_cost>0</total_karma_cost>
<total_bp_cost>20</total_bp_cost>
</edge>
<magic>
<min_natural>0</min_natural>
<purchased_value>0</purchased_value>
<augmented_value>0</augmented_value>
<max_natural>6</max_natural>
<max_augmented>6</max_augmented>
<total_karma_cost>0</total_karma_cost>
<total_bp_cost>0</total_bp_cost>
</magic>
<resonance>
<min_natural>0</min_natural>
<purchased_value>0</purchased_value>
<augmented_value>0</augmented_value>
<max_natural>6</max_natural>
<max_augmented>6</max_augmented>
<total_karma_cost>0</total_karma_cost>
<total_bp_cost>0</total_bp_cost>
</resonance>
</attributes>
<nat_initiative>6</nat_initiative>
<aug_initiative>6</aug_initiative>
<init_passes>1</init_passes>
<essence>4.7</essence>
<additional_dmg_res>0</additional_dmg_res>
<nat_ballistic_armor>0</nat_ballistic_armor>
<nat_impact_armor>0</nat_impact_armor>
<physical_damage_boxes>0</physical_damage_boxes>
<stun_damage_boxes>0</stun_damage_boxes>
<metatype>
<name>Troll</name>
<abilities>Thermographic Vision, +1 Reach, +1 Natural armor</abilities>
<bp_cost>40</bp_cost>
</metatype>
<lifestyle_collection>
</lifestyle_collection>
<skill_collection>
<skill>
<category>Combat</category>
<name>Archery</name>
<linked_attribute>AGL</linked_attribute>
<type>Active</type>
<specialization></specialization>
<rating>2</rating>
<bp_cost>8</bp_cost>
<karma_cost>0</karma_cost>
</skill>
<skill>
<category>Combat</category>
<name>Blades</name>
<linked_attribute>AGL</linked_attribute>
<type>Active</type>
<specialization>Knives</specialization>
<rating>1</rating>
<bp_cost>6</bp_cost>
<karma_cost>0</karma_cost>
</skill>
<skill>
<category>Combat</category>
<name>Clubs</name>
<linked_attribute>AGL</linked_attribute>
<type>Active</type>
<specialization>Batons</specialization>
<rating>2</rating>
<bp_cost>10</bp_cost>
<karma_cost>0</karma_cost>
</skill>
<skill>
<category>Combat</category>
<name>Dodge</name>
<linked_attribute>REA</linked_attribute>
<type>Active</type>
<specialization></specialization>
<rating>2</rating>
<bp_cost>8</bp_cost>
<karma_cost>0</karma_cost>
</skill>
<skill>
<category>Technical</category>
<name>First Aid</name>
<linked_attribute>LOG</linked_attribute>
<type>Active</type>
<specialization>Poisons</specialization>
<rating>3</rating>
<bp_cost>14</bp_cost>
<karma_cost>0</karma_cost>
</skill>
<skill>
<category>Combat</category>
<name>Longarms</name>
<linked_attribute>AGL</linked_attribute>
<type>Active</type>
<specialization></specialization>
<rating>3</rating>
<bp_cost>12</bp_cost>
<karma_cost>0</karma_cost>
</skill>
<skill>
<category>Physical</category>
<name>Perception</name>
<linked_attribute>INT</linked_attribute>
<type>Active</type>
<specialization></specialization>
<rating>2</rating>
<bp_cost>8</bp_cost>
<karma_cost>0</karma_cost>
</skill>
<skill>
<category>Physical</category>
<name>Survival</name>
<linked_attribute>WIL</linked_attribute>
<type>Active</type>
<specialization></specialization>
<rating>2</rating>
<bp_cost>8</bp_cost>
<karma_cost>0</karma_cost>
</skill>
<skill>
<category>Physical</category>
<name>Tracking</name>
<linked_attribute>INT</linked_attribute>
<type>Active</type>
<specialization></specialization>
<rating>3</rating>
<bp_cost>12</bp_cost>
<karma_cost>0</karma_cost>
</skill>
<skill>
<category>Combat</category>
<name>Unarmed Combat</name>
<linked_attribute>AGL</linked_attribute>
<type>Active</type>
<specialization>Subdual Combat</specialization>
<rating>5</rating>
<bp_cost>22</bp_cost>
<karma_cost>0</karma_cost>
</skill>
<skill>
<category>Street Knowledge</category>
<name>Fences</name>
<linked_attribute>INT</linked_attribute>
<type>Knowledge</type>
<specialization></specialization>
<rating>3</rating>
<bp_cost>0</bp_cost>
<karma_cost>0</karma_cost>
</skill>
<skill>
<category>Street Knowledge</category>
<name>Entertainment Politics</name>
<linked_attribute>INT</linked_attribute>
<type>Knowledge</type>
<specialization></specialization>
<rating>3</rating>
<bp_cost>0</bp_cost>
<karma_cost>0</karma_cost>
</skill>
<skill>
<category>Street Knowledge</category>
<name>Lone Star Tactics</name>
<linked_attribute>INT</linked_attribute>
<type>Knowledge</type>
<specialization></specialization>
<rating>4</rating>
<bp_cost>0</bp_cost>
<karma_cost>0</karma_cost>
</skill>
<skill>
<category>Languages</category>
<name>Thai</name>
<linked_attribute>INT</linked_attribute>
<type>Knowledge</type>
<specialization></specialization>
<rating>0</rating>
<bp_cost>0</bp_cost>
<karma_cost>0</karma_cost>
</skill>
<skill>
<category>Languages</category>
<name>English</name>
<linked_attribute>INT</linked_attribute>
<type>Knowledge</type>
<specialization>Cityspeak</specialization>
<rating>3</rating>
<bp_cost>0</bp_cost>
<karma_cost>0</karma_cost>
</skill>
</skill_collection>
<skill_group_collection>
<skill_group>
<name>Athletics</name>
<rating>2</rating>
<bp_cost>20</bp_cost>
<karma_cost>0</karma_cost>
<member_skill_collection>
<member_skill>
<skill_name>Climbing</skill_name>
<linked_attribute>STR</linked_attribute>
</member_skill>
<member_skill>
<skill_name>Gymnastics</skill_name>
<linked_attribute>AGL</linked_attribute>
</member_skill>
<member_skill>
<skill_name>Running</skill_name>
<linked_attribute>STR</linked_attribute>
</member_skill>
<member_skill>
<skill_name>Swimming</skill_name>
<linked_attribute>STR</linked_attribute>
</member_skill>
</member_skill_collection>
</skill_group>
</skill_group_collection>
<quality_collection>
<quality>
<type>Positive</type>
<name>Animal Empathy</name>
<description>The character has an instinctive feel for the handling of animals of all kinds. The character receives a +2 dice pool modifier for all tests involving the influence or control of an animal.</description>
<note></note>
<note_required>False</note_required>
<bp_cost>10</bp_cost>
</quality>
<quality>
<type>Positive</type>
<name>Quick Healer</name>
<description></description>
<note></note>
<note_required>False</note_required>
<bp_cost>10</bp_cost>
</quality>
<quality>
<type>Positive</type>
<name>Resistance to Pathogens</name>
<description></description>
<note></note>
<note_required>False</note_required>
<bp_cost>5</bp_cost>
</quality>
<quality>
<type>Positive</type>
<name>Resistance to Pathogens/Toxins</name>
<description></description>
<note></note>
<note_required>False</note_required>
<bp_cost>10</bp_cost>
</quality>
<quality>
<type>Negative</type>
<name>Gremlins I</name>
<description></description>
<note></note>
<note_required>False</note_required>
<bp_cost>5</bp_cost>
</quality>
<quality>
<type>Negative</type>
<name>SINner, Standard</name>
<description></description>
<note></note>
<note_required>False</note_required>
<bp_cost>5</bp_cost>
</quality>
<quality>
<type>Negative</type>
<name>Uncouth</name>
<description></description>
<note></note>
<note_required>False</note_required>
<bp_cost>20</bp_cost>
</quality>
</quality_collection>
<spell_collection>
</spell_collection>
<adept_power_collection>
</adept_power_collection>
<augmentation_collection>
<augmentation>
<type>Cyberware</type>
<subclass>Eyeware</subclass>
<name>Cybereyes, Rating 3</name>
<description>Description</description>
<availability_value>6</availability_value>
<legality_code></legality_code>
<final_cost>1000</final_cost>
<final_grade>Standard</final_grade>
<final_essence_cost>0.4</final_essence_cost>
<final_rating>0</final_rating>
<final_capacity>12</final_capacity>
<customization_collection>
</customization_collection>
</augmentation>
<augmentation>
<type>Cyberware</type>
<subclass>Eyeware</subclass>
<name>Flare Compensation</name>
<description>Description</description>
<availability_value>4</availability_value>
<legality_code></legality_code>
<final_cost>750</final_cost>
<final_grade>Standard</final_grade>
<final_essence_cost>0.1</final_essence_cost>
<final_rating>0</final_rating>
<final_capacity>1</final_capacity>
<customization_collection>
</customization_collection>
</augmentation>
<augmentation>
<type>Cyberware</type>
<subclass>Eyeware</subclass>
<name>Thermographic Vision</name>
<description>Description</description>
<availability_value>4</availability_value>
<legality_code>R</legality_code>
<final_cost>1000</final_cost>
<final_grade>Standard</final_grade>
<final_essence_cost>0.1</final_essence_cost>
<final_rating>0</final_rating>
<final_capacity>2</final_capacity>
<customization_collection>
</customization_collection>
</augmentation>
<augmentation>
<type>Cyberware</type>
<subclass>Eyeware</subclass>
<name>Smartlink</name>
<description>Description</description>
<availability_value>8</availability_value>
<legality_code></legality_code>
<final_cost>1000</final_cost>
<final_grade>Standard</final_grade>
<final_essence_cost>0.1</final_essence_cost>
<final_rating>0</final_rating>
<final_capacity>3</final_capacity>
<customization_collection>
</customization_collection>
</augmentation>
<augmentation>
<type>Cyberware</type>
<subclass>Earware</subclass>
<name>Cyberears, Rating 2</name>
<description>Description</description>
<availability_value>4</availability_value>
<legality_code></legality_code>
<final_cost>750</final_cost>
<final_grade>Standard</final_grade>
<final_essence_cost>0.3</final_essence_cost>
<final_rating>0</final_rating>
<final_capacity>8</final_capacity>
<customization_collection>
</customization_collection>
</augmentation>
<augmentation>
<type>Cyberware</type>
<subclass>Earware</subclass>
<name>Audio Enhancement</name>
<description>Description</description>
<availability_value>3</availability_value>
<legality_code></legality_code>
<final_cost>4500</final_cost>
<final_grade>Standard</final_grade>
<final_essence_cost>0.1</final_essence_cost>
<final_rating>3</final_rating>
<final_capacity>3</final_capacity>
<customization_collection>
</customization_collection>
</augmentation>
<augmentation>
<type>Cyberware</type>
<subclass>Earware</subclass>
<name>Damper</name>
<description>Description</description>
<availability_value>4</availability_value>
<legality_code></legality_code>
<final_cost>750</final_cost>
<final_grade>Standard</final_grade>
<final_essence_cost>0.1</final_essence_cost>
<final_rating>0</final_rating>
<final_capacity>1</final_capacity>
<customization_collection>
</customization_collection>
</augmentation>
<augmentation>
<type>Cyberware</type>
<subclass>Earware</subclass>
<name>Select Sound Filter</name>
<description>Description</description>
<availability_value>3</availability_value>
<legality_code></legality_code>
<final_cost>3000</final_cost>
<final_grade>Standard</final_grade>
<final_essence_cost>0.1</final_essence_cost>
<final_rating>3</final_rating>
<final_capacity>3</final_capacity>
<customization_collection>
</customization_collection>
</augmentation>
</augmentation_collection>
<gear_collection>
</gear_collection>
<vehicle_collection>
</vehicle_collection>
<contact_collection>
</contact_collection>
<purchased_nuyen>0</purchased_nuyen>
<beginning_build_points>400</beginning_build_points>
<background_story>This is the point at which you write down your character's story. Consider the following three suggestions:

1) Write down some quotes that your character might say.

2) Write down a short paragraph, as if someone else was talking about your character.

3) Write down a quick outline of how your character got started.</background_story>
</character>

[DireRadiant]

Bet it's this node "<birth_date>1/1/0001</birth_date>".

Try and edit it with notepad to have adifferent date and see if that works.

[thewolf]

@Eleazar
1. Right. Fixed in the next development version.
2. True. I probably added some more later without re-alphabetizing them. I will shove that off to KeyMasterOfGozer, master of the DAT files.
3. See master of DAT files again for submissions. At some point, a custom skill functionality will exist so you can put in Lilliputian, if you desire.
4. Add the augmentation, right-click on it in the grid, Customize.
5. See, that must be an archetype error. Ultrasound is not a cybereye accessory, it is headware.
6. Reaction Enhancers are bodyware, not bioware.
7. The BirthDate field wasn't saving correctly to the XML file, hence the 1/1/0001 entry and the failure to parse. That is fixed in the next version.

I hope you all don't get too discouraged with all of this non-functioning. This is quite normal at this stage of development. I really think things are going well, actually, and the next release in a few days will allow you to create a lot more characters.

[Fortune]

[Eleazar]

[Kairo]

Ditto. I'm not discouraged at all. I'd put up my report of bugs to you, but it looks like everyone already mentioned the same things I've been getting. I'll let you know if I find something else.

[thewolf]

Hey all, I am designing the options dialog box. Here is the list of current options that I have thought of:

- Starting BP
- Max Allowed Avail
- Show/Hide Restricted Items
- Show/Hide Forbidden Items
- Allow Beta Augmentations
- Allow Delta Augmentations
- Allowed Sourcebooks

Can you think of any other options that might be handy to build in at this time? Even if they don't work right off, I can at least stub out the code for them.

[Kyoto Kid]

...houserules like starting contact BPs = 2x Charisma and Free native language. (both of these appear to becoming somewhat universal in their application).

Also:
Street Cred
Noteriety

[thewolf]

@Kyoto Kid
Starting contact BP's is a good one. I had forgotten about that. I was under the impression that your native language is free.

Street Cred and Notoriety will probably be lumped in with the post-character creation part of the program (a version 2 thing).

[blakkie]

[thewolf]

@blakkie
Once I get to the house rules and options section, I can take a look at that. The source code will be released with the actual release of the product, so you can wait until then or I can try to add it when I'm developing those extra rules.

[KeyMasterOfGozer]

Ok, I have done all I can do until another weekend.

I have gotten all the SR4 and Street Magic stuff in the files, I think.

I did not get the Descriptions for Spells in (too much for one weekend), but the spells should be there with the math they need. I also only typed in Sketchy Descriptions for the Adept Powers.

You should look over the files, though, there were several fields with 0/1 that I really couldn't guess what was going on, you may need to fill in those for the Application to work right. If you can fill in the header on the files, myself or someone can maybe fill it in latter.

Here is the latest

Data.zip

Perhaps I can put descriptions in Spells on another future weekend, or maybe someone else with more time on their hands can do it first. Let us know if anyone can take over this and get as much as you can in.

[thewolf]

@KeyMasterOfGozer
Groovy. I will look at it later this afternoon. I know typing the descriptions is a bear. I thought about doing the header files this weekend, but I didn't get to it. At least the current version I have ignores the # signs.

[deek]