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 Oct 6 2006, 02:02 AM
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Target  Group: Members Posts: 91 Joined: 23-January 05 From: Washington, DC Member No.: 7,007  |
I remember from months ago some talk of a PDF of the never published book Shadows of Latin America becoming available. I signed up at the site and never heard of it again. Does anyone know if it is available somewhere?
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Oct 6 2006, 02:10 AM
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Uncle Fisty Group: Admin Posts: 13,891 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 |
No. It never will be .. ever . thank you for tearing open that particular scar. :frown:
In all seriousness though, they decided not to acutally publish it, and there's occassionally talk about this myth called holostreets. Personally, I've stopped holding my breath. I passed out a few times. It was bad. The pdf I don't know, although it would be great. I think the focus is more on getting SR4 out right now, which , IIRC, is why they decided not to publish it. Which I really don't get personally. AFAIK they had it done. Just other printing priorities I guess. And soon, more people will stop in here, we will say our words of dissapointment, and this will all fade away again. sad. |
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Oct 6 2006, 02:23 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 91 Joined: 23-January 05 From: Washington, DC Member No.: 7,007 |
That is a shame. You would think there would be a decent market for it since Shadows of Asia just went into a second printing. I imagine a lot of people here would be willing to shell out some $$$ for a PDF. Since it is already done, it sounds like free money to me.
Oh well, thanks for the reply. |
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Oct 6 2006, 02:27 AM
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Uncle Fisty Group: Admin Posts: 13,891 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 |
yeah NP. It comes up every few months. We all still secretly hope, but pretend now to, so we don't cry. :dead:
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Oct 6 2006, 05:20 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 162 Joined: 27-January 06 From: Norfolk, Ma Member No.: 8,202 |
SON OF A B----... Just signed up on Holostreets about a week ago. Guess I should pay a little more attention to the boards huh?
Mark |
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Oct 6 2006, 06:30 AM
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Prime Runner Group: Retired Admins Posts: 3,929 Joined: 26-February 02 From: .ca Member No.: 51 |
SOLA wasn't finished to the point of being "free money." |
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Oct 6 2006, 09:15 AM
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Freelance Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 7,324 Joined: 30-September 04 From: Texas Member No.: 6,714 |
You can say "bitch" here. It's okay. |
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Oct 6 2006, 09:44 AM
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Canon Companion Group: Members Posts: 8,021 Joined: 2-March 03 From: The Morgue, Singapore LTG Member No.: 4,187 |
Yeah, the admins are friendlier. Or grittier. Depends on who you ask. |
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Oct 6 2006, 12:24 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 595 Joined: 12-May 05 Member No.: 7,392 |
I know Holostreets has been delayed a lot, I know it's started to seem like it will never happen, but substantial progress on getting a site up was made at GenCon. Don't lose hope yet.
Jason H. |
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Oct 6 2006, 03:09 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,718 Joined: 14-September 02 Member No.: 3,263 |
Like someone got kicked in the ass to start working? :P Or just a sutble threat that a team was being put together for a messy extraction of SOLA? 8)
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Oct 6 2006, 03:14 PM
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ghostrider Group: Retired Admins Posts: 4,196 Joined: 16-May 04 Member No.: 6,333 |
Need matrix overwatch?
eidolon: Low vis, high wiz, low hourly rates. Inquire now. |
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Oct 6 2006, 03:25 PM
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Bushido Cowgirl Group: Members Posts: 5,782 Joined: 8-July 05 From: On the Double K Ranch a half day's ride out of Phlogiston Flats Member No.: 7,490 |
...yeah, major is a disappointment since I'm still running in SR3 and will be for some time to come. Could have really made use of SoLA for a future campaign I have been plotting considering this is where one of the corp players (Aztechnology) is based.
Seems like they've totally given up on SR3. But then, why a second printing of SoA & why hasn't the cover price on all other SR3 material been reduced if they are so hot about SR4? Doesn't make much sense. |
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Oct 6 2006, 03:56 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,718 Joined: 14-September 02 Member No.: 3,263 |
That be well over year-old news. :P
Because SoA is, as will be SoLA, quite applicable to SR4 games. Those fluff books are largely edition independant. BTW Runner Havens definately falls into that catagory, and it has 4 pages on Caracas. I just picked up the PDF because one of my groups is just starting a campaign in Hong Kong, which FINALLY has a nice big 55ish page write-up. |
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Oct 6 2006, 05:05 PM
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Uncle Fisty Group: Admin Posts: 13,891 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 |
Its just easier to lose hope, so that all my suprises will be nice and all that. It's liek waiting for Christmas, except it didn't come in December, and now it's August. |
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Oct 6 2006, 05:32 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,314 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Lisbon, Cidade do Pecado Member No.: 185 |
Nobody wants to see SoLA published more than the people who worked on it. The book has some really nice material by Demonseed Elite, Ancient History, JongWK, Joćo Nunes and a bunch of talented locals. As Jason has mentioned significant advances were made at GenCon and we're hoping Holostreets will have good news for everyone in the near future.
SR4 is the current edition and FanPro no longer supports SR3. That being said many of the fluff books at the tail end of SR3 were developed with as least rules content as possible to facilitate integration with SR4. The vast majority of the material in SoE, SoA, Loose Alliances and eventually SoLA is fully compatible with the SR4 setting with minimal tweaks. Releasing second printings of a fluff book when demand is still high is simply good business sense. Dropping prices on SR3 books when they're still selling well and there's still stock is bad business sense — losing those potential profits is what wouldn't make much sense. |
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Oct 6 2006, 06:04 PM
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Uncle Fisty Group: Admin Posts: 13,891 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 |
So if/when it does happen, are you guys going to include things that were cut for wordcount in other books as well?
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Oct 7 2006, 12:41 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,379 Joined: 16-April 02 From: the LI shadows Member No.: 2,607 |
I still await it, even though I have lost hope in seeing it in my lifetime.
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Oct 7 2006, 12:51 AM
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Uncle Fisty Group: Admin Posts: 13,891 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 |
hold me :(
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Oct 7 2006, 11:01 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,379 Joined: 16-April 02 From: the LI shadows Member No.: 2,607 |
*backs away slowly*
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Jan 27 2008, 06:09 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,577 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gwynedd Valley PA Member No.: 1,221 |
Just to raise old specters. Wasn't this at least on line or something?
I'm looking for details of Beunos Ares and Montivideo. |
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Jan 28 2008, 01:40 AM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
That was the plan. It was supposed to be included with the long awaited HoloStreets, but at the moment that has been put by the wayside. |
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Jan 28 2008, 01:57 AM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,577 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gwynedd Valley PA Member No.: 1,221 |
So it exists no where available to the general public :(
Anyone with any clues to what's what at the mouth of the River Platte? |
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Jan 28 2008, 02:49 AM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
You got it!
Silt?!? |
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Jan 28 2008, 05:44 AM
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King of the Hobos Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,117 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 127 |
The Missouri River? ;) Being serious for a moment since this is about Shadows of Latin America I'm assuming you meant the River Plate. In that case still Argentina and Uruguay (and as Fortune already said silt). We know that Argentina is still around from previous sourcebooks and since one of the freelancers that worked on the book comes from Uruguay IIRC I think we can probably still expect that it's still there as well. :) On an unrelated note I'll be interested to see what they did with Ciudad del Este. As is now it's a great location, after Amazonia comes to power and seals the border not so much. I suppose you could have it as a jumping off point for sending undercover research teams into the jungle but since they cleared out all the towns and cities that rules out large scale smuggling and the Amazonians probably keep a close eye on the area so there'd be better places to make an insertion I'd think. Shame really. |
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Jan 28 2008, 03:26 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 976 Joined: 16-September 04 From: Near my daughters, Lansdale PA Member No.: 6,668 |
Knowing how SF's mind runs she really does want details on the river/border itself.
I think I remember hearing that it is actually fresh water at that point because of the force of the river. I think I have also heard of disputes between the two RL nations because of industry. |
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