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how much to initiate |
Oct 16 2006, 08:27 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 588 Joined: 27-February 06 Member No.: 8,316 |
The rules on initiation say for a group initiation with a deed, you round up, but do you round up the discount or the total after the discount?
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Oct 16 2006, 08:33 PM
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The Dragon Never Sleeps Group: Admin Posts: 6,924 Joined: 1-September 05 Member No.: 7,667 |
What's 60 % of 13?
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Oct 16 2006, 09:18 PM
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Uncle Fisty Group: Admin Posts: 13,891 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 |
I'd say round after the total
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Oct 16 2006, 09:25 PM
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Mr. Johnson Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,148 Joined: 27-February 06 From: UCAS Member No.: 8,314 |
13 * 0.6 is 7.8 Or, for those in Poland, 13 0.6 * is 7.8 (sorry, little joke there; I use an HP calculator). |
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Oct 16 2006, 10:09 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 668 Joined: 4-September 06 Member No.: 9,304 |
I went with 8, because I believe that you round after the calculation is finished.
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Oct 17 2006, 12:36 AM
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Bushido Cowgirl Group: Members Posts: 5,782 Joined: 8-July 05 From: On the Double K Ranch a half day's ride out of Phlogiston Flats Member No.: 7,490 |
...yeah, that's worth a karma or two. Oh and yes, I agree that the total is what is rounded. |
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Oct 17 2006, 05:45 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 524 Joined: 12-April 06 Member No.: 8,455 |
Booooo.
Hissssss. (I used to know how to RPN anything. Fortunately, I recovered by college). |
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Oct 17 2006, 06:46 AM
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Prime Runner Group: Banned Posts: 3,732 Joined: 1-September 05 From: Prague, Czech Republic Member No.: 7,665 |
Round up the savings. In general, rounding almost always works in your favor in 4th edition. You round your strength up when hiting a guy and you round your body up when calculating your wound boxes. You even round your Essence up when calculating whether you should be taking a penalty to healing spells.
Just about the only thing in the entire game that rounds against you is your Essence for the purposes of Magic Loss. And that's only like that because it's such an important part of the game world (and a holdover from previous editions when things rounded agaionst you). -Frank |
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Oct 17 2006, 09:12 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 588 Joined: 27-February 06 Member No.: 8,316 |
the whole reason I brought this up is that mathematically, and linguistically, something in parentheses modifies the last thing in a line/sentence.
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Oct 18 2006, 12:06 AM
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Project Terminus: Soul Hunters Group: Members Posts: 1,052 Joined: 6-November 03 From: Casselberry, Florida U.S.A. Member No.: 5,798 |
I do as the book says 10 plus grade times 3.
So level 1 times 3 equals 3 plus 10 for a total of 13. Then if you do a group minus 20% and futher more you can do an ordeal for another minus 20% for a total modifier of 40% which makes the total 5.2 then round up to 6. Then lastly add on the 5 karma for joining the group and your final total is 11 or at least that is how it reads to me. |
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