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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,311 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Calgary, Alberta Member No.: 2,062 ![]() |
So, I was wandering AH's site and came across two bits of info that seem to connect... The first is from AHs description of All-Wing
This seems to set a precedent towards dragon funeral rites (sort of). This next quote is from the will.
So, we have an undestroyed and scattered dragon body, that any dragon would be able to identify. My thoughts are that if your GM sends you after these, you have more leverage in negotiations. Your thoughts? |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 198 Joined: 30-August 03 From: Upland, IN Member No.: 5,554 ![]() |
I think it would be pretty sweet to build a series of runs out of this.
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,311 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Calgary, Alberta Member No.: 2,062 ![]() |
Perhaps I should have kept this one to myself... |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 305 Joined: 24-September 03 From: Albany, OR Member No.: 5,643 ![]() |
I looked up the coordinates and they are scattered all over Eastern Asia. Sounds like a heck of a campaign.
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Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,314 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Lisbon, Cidade do Pecado Member No.: 185 ![]() |
The coordinates are actually spread out across Western North Am (with one notable exception), I know a lot of people read them wrong because the notation is unusual. Originally I thought I had it wrong but I tracked them down to a couple hundred meters and the spots are just make too much sense in an SR context to be wrong. When the Annotated Will goes up people are in for a whole lot of surprises.
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Beetle Eater ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,797 Joined: 3-June 02 From: Oblivion City Member No.: 2,826 ![]() |
Synner, did you go to school to learn Teaser-Fu like that?
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Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,314 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Lisbon, Cidade do Pecado Member No.: 185 ![]() |
Sheeesh, I was actually trying to be helpful. From what I've seen a lot of people got the coordinates wrong including Ancient (yes, and now the world is going to end). I don't mean to be mean but I had a hell of a job working out the information myself and I'm a firm believer in making people sweat for the juicy info. Finally I'm not yet absolutely sure I got it right.
Regardless, here's a hard one for free: Latitude 47° 21n, Longitude 122° 12w, according to my research, is in or around Lake Clark in the Kent neighborhood of Renton (Seattle Metroplex). |
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,311 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Calgary, Alberta Member No.: 2,062 ![]() |
Synner, I will kill if you can tell me the locations. Privately, please, as my players read the boards, and I *really* want to use this once they get enough Karma. Please? I'll give you a cookie. And sexual favors. And so on. |
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 73 Joined: 18-October 03 Member No.: 5,737 ![]() |
Part of the problem is that except for the Prime Meridian (0 degrees longitude), 180 longitude (international date line) and the equator, you need to annotate N/S and E/W for every cooridinate. So when there isn't one given, you have two possible locations, when two are missing, you have four.
Anybody got a good website to look these up on? |
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Beetle Eater ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,797 Joined: 3-June 02 From: Oblivion City Member No.: 2,826 ![]() |
Terraserver Latitude 47° 21n, Longitude 122° 12w Kent, Renton
Terraserver Latitude 41°, Longitude 121° Hestaby's Northern Cresent Terraserver Latitude 41° 50n, Longitude 87° 45w Cicero, Bug City Terraserver Latitude 39° 44n, Longitude 104° 59w Denver (Latitude 19° 24n, Longitude 99° 9w) and (Latitude 65°, Longitude 130°) are not in Terraserver's database. |
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Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,314 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Lisbon, Cidade do Pecado Member No.: 185 ![]() |
Okay, Kanada since you've gone to all that work (btw- thanks for cross-checking):
Latitude 19° 24n, Longitude 99° 9w – Technoctitlan, Aztlan Latitude 65°, Longitude 130° - the Mackenzie River just as it crosses into the TransPolar Aleut nation. Seville - Actually in the English system no notation means E or N respectively as defaults. |
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 70 Joined: 16-October 03 From: Westminster, CO Member No.: 5,727 ![]() |
What site is this?
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Beetle Eater ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,797 Joined: 3-June 02 From: Oblivion City Member No.: 2,826 ![]() |
What site is which?
Terraserver is one of Microsofts little project. The annotated will should show up on the The Official Site at some point. Ancient History's site of annotated everything. I have no idea where Synner found his stuff, but thanks Synner. And you are on Dumpshock currently. ;) |
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 73 Joined: 18-October 03 Member No.: 5,737 ![]() |
:) Thanks, I did not know that.
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,028 Joined: 9-November 02 From: The Republic of Vermont Member No.: 3,581 ![]() |
I whipped up some maps using xplanet last time this topic came up. Lemme see if I can remember where I put them...
Assuming that they're all N/W coordinates... #5 is the only one I can't place in relation to anything significant in Shadowrun. Using S or E where they're not specified will put #3 and #5 either in the southern ocean or the middle of nowhere in Siberia. |
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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 ![]() |
I eagerly await the Annotated Will. The co-ordinates have been a matter of much debate, though I'm pleased that they are, as I suspected, all mostly in and around North America.
As for the skeleton itself, it might be. It doesn't specifically mention a great dragon...but, i'll put it in the November Update witht he DotSW stuff (6 months are up!) |
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 70 Joined: 16-October 03 From: Westminster, CO Member No.: 5,727 ![]() |
I guess my question was a bit vague. :wobble: It was the Ancient History site that I was wondering about. Thanks! The link for the "Official Site" didn't work for me. I also tried typing it as www.srrpg.com, but that didn't work either. Are you talking about the official SR site (www.shadowrunrpg.com)? X |
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Beetle Eater ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,797 Joined: 3-June 02 From: Oblivion City Member No.: 2,826 ![]() |
Fixed, and WWW.SRRPG.COM should work.
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Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,314 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Lisbon, Cidade do Pecado Member No.: 185 ![]() |
I found it the old-fashioned way while working on the Annotated Will. A particularly detailed Atlas and a couple of city maps off the net and my old Geography lessons. John Campbell - Standard english default cartographic notations are East first, North second (and West only when so noted). A good mnemonic when reading Latitude/Longitude on a grid is "in the house (left to right) up the stairs (bottom to top)". As far as I can see you've got them all right on your map. |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 268 Joined: 30-March 03 From: Denver, CO Member No.: 4,355 ![]() |
ouch. :) Try this. BTW, for anyone looking to flesh out the Siberia one, it looks like it is in the Verkhoyansk Mountains, just east of the Lena River straight north of the city of Yakutsk in the Yakutia Province. Add some flavor with old mining camps and gulag prisons. |
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Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,314 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Lisbon, Cidade do Pecado Member No.: 185 ![]() |
The reason I used the old-fashioned way is because a lot of the web systems don't allow for inverting the Latitude (West instead of the default East) which this exercise requires. What Siberian site btw? Kanada's refs match mine and the six I got were: Latitude 47° 21n, Longitude 122° 12w - Renton, Seattle Metroplex Latitude 41°, Longitude 121° - Northern Cresent, CFS/Tir Latitude 41° 50n, Longitude 87° 45w - Chicago, UCAS Latitude 39° 44n, Longitude 104° 59w Denver, FRFZ Latitude 19° 24n, Longitude 99° 9w – Technoctitlan, Aztlan Latitude 65°, Longitude 130° - Mackenzie River, TransPolar Aleut nation. |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 268 Joined: 30-March 03 From: Denver, CO Member No.: 4,355 ![]() |
I'll pre-apologize since its a bit of a nitpick, but your interpretation of a Latitude and Longitude without N,S,W, or E is not the only one. Without directional notation, North and East are positive and South and West are negative.... which would place #5 in Siberia. This is the same method you can use to enter the coordinates into the mapquest lookup. Of course, this could be used to mislead the characters into a search of one area only to have it be sitting in the other. |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 611 Joined: 21-October 03 From: Yorkshire Toxic Zone Member No.: 5,752 ![]() |
Okay, a new way to look at it - what about those remains on mars? It did create a rift, and mars has atmosphere, and possibly enough organic matter (dead or otherwise) to create a manasphere.
Just a thought to throw in the mix... |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 142 Joined: 29-November 02 Member No.: 3,660 ![]() |
I thought those pics where fake , or was that the one real one in the set ? |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 611 Joined: 21-October 03 From: Yorkshire Toxic Zone Member No.: 5,752 ![]() |
must've missed where that was revealed. Can you tell me where to look? message me if its not safe for 'public' consumption (i.e. pesky players!)
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