 Seattle's New Governor, To the Polls! |
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 Oct 21 2006, 01:04 AM
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Midnight Toker  Group: Members Posts: 7,686 Joined: 4-July 04 From: Zombie Drop Bear Santa's Workshop Member No.: 6,456  |
Struthers wants to catch a serial killer? To hell with that. I like Dzhugashvili because Aztechnology likes her. Maybe, just maybe, she'll make the metroplex safe friendly law-abiding blood mages and their families. Really, we need more ritual murder and less persecution of people who try to express themselves and their beliefs in this harmless manner.
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Oct 21 2006, 06:53 AM
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Shadowrun Setting Nerd Group: Banned Posts: 3,632 Joined: 28-June 05 From: Pissing on pedestrians from my electronic ivory tower. Member No.: 7,473 |
Her theories read like grandpa Joe's worst programs with a Matrix-based twist.
Goddamn Technomancers... |
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Oct 21 2006, 08:38 AM
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Mystery Archaeologist Group: Members Posts: 2,906 Joined: 19-September 05 From: The apple tree Member No.: 7,760 |
But he lives in Denver, and it's Perianwyr. |
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Oct 21 2006, 06:55 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,011 Joined: 15-February 05 From: Montréal, QC, Canada Member No.: 7,087 |
The 'New Deal' that got America out of the 30s depression was pretty much liberal tax and spend, you know. When the economy and society are out of whack, only governmental interventionism can correct the situation. Competent interventionism, of course, or else much protest and upheavals ensue as various group comptete to tell the government what needs to be done which can get ugly. Laissez-faire policies only work well when the economy function efficiently and society is fairly stable without too large a proportion of the population living in the gutter. Not exactly Seattle's situation. No doubt that for Seattlite, Strouthers is the best choice or at least the lesser of three evils. Which just won't do for my campaign! Mwahaha! |
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Oct 21 2006, 07:02 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,537 Joined: 27-August 06 From: Albuquerque NM Member No.: 9,234 |
Actually, if you look at it in detail, it was WW2. Most of the other policies were at best ineffective. For example, raising food prices and cutting production when people can't afford food doesn't seem like such a good idea in restrospect, now does it? |
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Oct 21 2006, 07:22 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,011 Joined: 15-February 05 From: Montréal, QC, Canada Member No.: 7,087 |
AFAIK the cutting down on food production to raise price was a reaction from the various agriculture actor (mostly farmer during the era), not from the government. If you are a farmer living of the land, breaking your back to deliver a product that isn't being paid enough to make it worth your while, you might as well cut down on your production (therefore your costs) and only sell at a higher price to people who can afford it while you yourself can still eat and trade your production so that your family doesn't starve. Is it good for the out of work factory worker? No. But for the farmer it's the best way he can weather the storm. Makes sense in hindsight, no? AFAIK, the New deal was mostltly the large government sponsored construction project to give work to the population (and improve the country's infrastructure while they were at it) and direct help to the destitute. And that did help. The US were on the way to recovery before WWII. Or else they wouldn't have won! As it is, the US barely made it in the pacific. The nuclear bombs were as much a desperation measure as anything else ; the US was going pretty much bankrupt and couldn't sustain the war effort much longer. (Not that you could say the Japanese would have won without the nuclear bombs ; just that the US was almost going to be forced to negotiate instead of being able to demand unconditional surrender if it weren't for the bombs). Anyway, the point is WW2 wasn't good for the US economy ; the victory was (very, very good). And the US wouldn't have won if its economy hadn't regained much vitality during the late 30s. And finally, SR Seattle desesperately needs a government that is going to intervene a lot because the Barrens sure as hell aren't going to fix themselves. |
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Oct 21 2006, 07:51 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,537 Joined: 27-August 06 From: Albuquerque NM Member No.: 9,234 |
Umm, no. Wickard v. Filburn. And something should be done, but, to quote SM Stirling (on a different universe) "it's a dystopia,". |
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Oct 21 2006, 11:13 PM
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Midnight Toker Group: Members Posts: 7,686 Joined: 4-July 04 From: Zombie Drop Bear Santa's Workshop Member No.: 6,456 |
Dystopic may equal crushing poverty but it is not required to do so. There are plenty of dystopias were everyone is rich and crime is nonexistant but their souls are crushed in other ways.
But it really doesn't matter because Shadowrun isn't really a dystopia. It is a stirred-up hornets' nest and some of those hornets are ninjas. |
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Oct 21 2006, 11:35 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,598 Joined: 24-May 03 Member No.: 4,629 |
Brackhaven needs to be in there, if only for the policy of striking Metahumanity from being Human, legally.
Hold the gasps! There's actually a reasoning behind it. Currently, Orks, and to a lesser extent Trolls, are required to enter mandantory schooling, just like other Metahumans. With a life expectancy of thirty, and a slower than usual grasp of complex subjects, teh typical Ork is nearly twenty before he graduates ... this would be akin to schooling a human until he was fifty! They need to be given different educational standards, so that they can concentrate on the mechanical and basic skills that they need, then be shuffled into teh workforce by 12 or so, when they reach physical maturity. This will allow them to better care for their litters and keep them away from a life of crime. Similarly, Dwarves and Elves have to be declassified as human due to, of all things, social security. Dwarves are predicted to live a hundred and fifty, perhaps two hundred years, while Elves are immortal! To allow them to work for forty years, then retire while still robust and in the prime of their lives, to fatten on the public teat for *generations* of humans is hardly fair. By declaring them non-human, a proper social support network for them can be constructed, one that will care for teh aged Dwarves yet not unfairly impunge proper humans. A Vote for Brackhaven is a vote for Humanity! (The previous was paid for by the Forces Eternal, Elect Brakchaven, or FEEB.) |
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Oct 22 2006, 08:53 AM
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Mystery Archaeologist Group: Members Posts: 2,906 Joined: 19-September 05 From: The apple tree Member No.: 7,760 |
your life expectancies are a little off, orks have average mid 40s, and at least part of this is due to high mortality in infancy and youth due to the harsher living conditions. Trolls live on average to mid 50s and have some similar influences on it. Dwarves yu got about right. Elves are not immortal (well most aren't) studies suggest anything beyween 100-400 years expectancy, with aging retarded after 26 or so and returning in the last couple decades of life.
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Oct 22 2006, 09:20 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 906 Joined: 16-October 06 Member No.: 9,630 |
I tell you now
Josephine Dzhugashvili will never take office. Its impossible. Even if elected we can expect the UCAS to have Josephine assasinated for his disire to have seatlee seccessed. |
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Oct 22 2006, 11:57 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,598 Joined: 24-May 03 Member No.: 4,629 |
Note the supression of Elven lifespan research by Universal Omnitech. Oh, they*claim* that earlier "Immortality Gene" discoveries were unreliable, but, smells like coverup to me. Just remember that while Orks are on their third, or sometimes fourth, generation, no Elf or Dwarf has yet died of old age. Yet we can't reconfigure teh educational system or the social security network, due to laws about fairness, despite a native inequality. So, first, we have to declare their non-human status, then we can build laws that are more in keeping with their unique qualities. For example, everyone knows about current incarceration rates for Orks. What is a fair penalty for a human, locking them away for ten years, is a virtual death sentence for an Ork but is less than a slap on the wrist for an Elf. Can you say that a ten year imprionment is really a detterent for a being that will live to be a thousand? Or that locking an Ork up for "Tusk on Tusk Crime", where no innocents are really harmed, is worth putting them to death? I say no. And I say that Brackhaven will be the light that sheds this dark gloom over our legal system and sets things right. (The above is paid for by teh Humanis Policlub, and does not represent teh opinions of moderators or posters on this board) |
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Oct 22 2006, 02:21 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 671 Joined: 9-March 06 Member No.: 8,353 |
Uh, I am a Dwarf, it's my street name. |
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Oct 22 2006, 10:24 PM
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Midnight Toker Group: Members Posts: 7,686 Joined: 4-July 04 From: Zombie Drop Bear Santa's Workshop Member No.: 6,456 |
Your assuming that she isn't a part of the New Revolution and her seccession promises aren't actually a ploy to begin reuniting the USA. If say, for example, she were to seccessed and then join the CAS for no apparent reason that would be a pretty good internationally justifiable excuse to invade and anex the Confederation, but more likely they're going with the soft-sell aproach with political manuvering that will somehow encourage the CAS to seek reunification, possibly by having Seatle go batshit insane, invade the Continental CAS with military support from Aztlan, and the UCAS would come to the rescue. A little bit of fabricated evidence could then be used to support the invasion of TT. Wakshaani, Humanis is secretly run by a filthy troll. A vote for Brakhaven is a vote for the domination of trolls over humans. Why, I bet he'd declare martial law and impose rules that let an army of love trolls go around and do anyone they want. |
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Oct 22 2006, 10:39 PM
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Hoppelhäschen 5000 Group: Members Posts: 5,807 Joined: 3-January 04 Member No.: 5,951 |
That would be Alamos2k, and it is run by some other nutcases, too. |
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Oct 22 2006, 11:43 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,174 Joined: 13-May 04 From: UCAS Member No.: 6,327 |
Hmmm... I think Bubba the Love Troll will be voting for Brakhaven. :eek: |
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Jan 9 2007, 04:27 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 695 Joined: 2-January 07 From: He has here a minute ago... Member No.: 10,514 |
Oh, dear. Looks like I just tied it up for the short man.
I say he needs to win and take a victory lap around the office on a Dodge Scoot. Nothing funnier than a dwarf on a Scoot. |
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Jan 10 2007, 09:55 PM
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Shadowrun Setting Nerd Group: Banned Posts: 3,632 Joined: 28-June 05 From: Pissing on pedestrians from my electronic ivory tower. Member No.: 7,473 |
But Humanis was run by the Troll. |
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Feb 21 2007, 08:18 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 13 Joined: 7-March 03 Member No.: 4,218 |
Any further word on how the election is going? Is there a winner yet?
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Feb 21 2007, 08:29 PM
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Uncle Fisty Group: Admin Posts: 13,891 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 |
gotta wait for another book. That's how they get ya. :D
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Feb 21 2007, 08:38 PM
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Mr. Johnson Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,148 Joined: 27-February 06 From: UCAS Member No.: 8,314 |
I've been running my game as though Brackhaven had won, based on the issues poll and discussion from a while ago. If it turns out to be somebody else, then we'll have to decide whether or not to retcon.
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Feb 22 2007, 12:52 AM
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Horror Group: Members Posts: 5,322 Joined: 15-June 05 From: BumFuck, New Jersey Member No.: 7,445 |
Vote Lofwyr.
Why? Because the outcome will be one of three things. 1: Anything remotely related to SK pulls out of Seattle or risk conflict-of-interest charges. 2: They'll kill another GD rather than let him take pollitical office. 3: You'll see the Shadow opportunities rise. Hehe, nah. I voted for Julius. |
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Feb 22 2007, 01:15 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,314 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Lisbon, Cidade do Pecado Member No.: 185 |
The very next book will have an update on the Seattle election situation. |
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Feb 22 2007, 02:39 AM
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Uncle Fisty Group: Admin Posts: 13,891 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 |
I love it when you say sweet things like that.
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Feb 25 2007, 06:35 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 355 Joined: 24-August 02 From: Magna, Ute Nation Member No.: 3,166 |
Vote Brackhaven! Lets make Seattle a safe place for Humans!
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