In Hong Kong, looking for Far East/Asian names. |
In Hong Kong, looking for Far East/Asian names. |
Oct 22 2006, 08:18 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,718 Joined: 14-September 02 Member No.: 3,263 |
I'm GMing in Hong Kong and I'm not so good at coming up with names on the fly. So I'm looking for a pregenerated list to work off of. Like those large list of fantasy names, but centering on far east.
I've found "convert your name" and single random given name type sites. But I'm looking for something that'll give me a list of hundred or so. Chinese (both coastal and inland including Mongolia etc.) is main aim, but S. Korean, Phillipine, Polynesia, Vietnam, and even Japan is good. Coverage of Indian penisula and central/eastern Russia considered a plus. |
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Oct 22 2006, 08:32 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 315 Joined: 10-June 06 Member No.: 8,691 |
There are plenty of name generators on the web, here's a quick list i found using metacrawler search engine.
http://rumandmonkey.com/widgets/toys/namegen/ http://www.behindthename.com/random/ (this one is particularly interesting) http://www.kleimo.com/random/name.cfm |
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Oct 22 2006, 08:40 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,718 Joined: 14-September 02 Member No.: 3,263 |
Thanks, but the first one only creates one at a time and no surname (I'd already found it, and the other parts of the site have some interesting info). The later is what I'm looking for, only it generates NA names. :/ P.S. Part of the problem is that where I'm GM I don't think has wireless internet (I'll check tonight), and even if it did I'd prefer a hard copy list so I can jot down notes next to the name as I use it. |
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Oct 22 2006, 09:01 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,006 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Nooo! I was going to pimp Kate Monk's Onomastikon, but it appears to have vanished!
Woe is us :( ~J |
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Oct 22 2006, 09:18 PM
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Chrome to the Core Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,152 Joined: 14-October 03 From: ::1 Member No.: 5,715 |
Archive.Org has one on backup. |
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Oct 22 2006, 09:31 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 13 Joined: 18-September 06 Member No.: 9,414 |
As the other two before me have said, Kate Monk's Onomastikon is a great place to look if you're having trouble finding names.
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Oct 22 2006, 10:34 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,640 Joined: 6-June 04 Member No.: 6,383 |
The ultra Mary Sue NPC who punks all the PCs should be named "Wong Fei Hong", since 'Wong Fei Hong" is Chinese for "Paul Bunyan".
Just rip off names of famous Chinese martial artists since at least you'll know that those sound like real names and not really dry made up names that don't sound quite right. (For unnatural sounding names in English watch anime...I remember how back in the 80s there were too many blond guys named Lobert.) Since your players are unlikely to be familiar with said CMAists they probably won't realize what a laugh-fest your name lineup is. So, call the first guy Wong Fei Hong. The second guy is Yip Man. The third guy is Lee Jun Fan. If someone is female they're Ng Mui. Just keep rattlin' 'em off. |
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Oct 22 2006, 10:58 PM
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Chrome to the Core Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,152 Joined: 14-October 03 From: ::1 Member No.: 5,715 |
He's in Hong Kong, so they may just know those martial artists.
In fact, I'd venture to say that at least one in his group will. |
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Oct 22 2006, 11:21 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,718 Joined: 14-September 02 Member No.: 3,263 |
Set in Hong Kong. RL in Canada. :) But I'll bet the one guy at the table will know more names than me. ;) Also Hong Kong in 6th World has had more than a few generations of massive influx going on. So I've got lots of different element to draw from.... Mary Sue don't live at this table.....unless they decide to travel to Seattle. Then the names are already picked out there. ;P I'm not going to push that because I've been dieing to run/play in SR HK for like ever. But I might just work Paul in there somewhere anyway. *adds to list* Thanks for that other link guys. That should do the trick. |
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Oct 22 2006, 11:35 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,174 Joined: 13-May 04 From: UCAS Member No.: 6,327 |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_surnames
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_commo...hinese_surnames For Hong Kong, look at the Cantonese list. If you're wondering, my parents are from Hong Kong and I've seen several of the surnames that I know from family friends so at least the list is not too shabby. |
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Oct 22 2006, 11:55 PM
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Chrome to the Core Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,152 Joined: 14-October 03 From: ::1 Member No.: 5,715 |
Close enough, and there you go. :D |
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Oct 23 2006, 12:43 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,598 Joined: 15-March 03 From: Hong Kong Member No.: 4,253 |
Another thing worth getting is probably a Hong Kong map book. Being able to spit out streets and regions (and commenting on when you need to cross the harbor to get somewhere) are all probably worth wile. here is a list of Filipino last names. Of course, it dosen't list popular first names. Heh handy wikipedia article about names. or how about
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Oct 23 2006, 01:16 AM
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Canon Companion Group: Members Posts: 8,021 Joined: 2-March 03 From: The Morgue, Singapore LTG Member No.: 4,187 |
I'd say look in the phone book. Phone books are good for names.
Not in HK? Mix and match celeb names are fun too- Jacky Li, Donny Hung, Sandy Mui, Anita Lam, Amitahb Khan, etc. |
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Oct 23 2006, 03:47 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 903 Joined: 7-February 03 Member No.: 4,025 |
The comment on movies gave me an idea. Check the credits and rip off the names of the gaffers and costumers and stuff. IMDb should help.
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Oct 23 2006, 02:19 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,718 Joined: 14-September 02 Member No.: 3,263 |
Great idea for IMDb, just takes some searching....
Phone book? Hrm, well I'll have to find international phone books online. I'm going down to the CAA (Canadian version of the AAA) to see if they've got a road map of Hong Kong. I've done up a rough Google Earth screen capture map, but it isn't so hot. Lot of dead space in the outlying Islands, so I'll need a second scale printout I think. Need to zoom in more for Kowloon City/Victoria Harbour/container docks area and then do some touchups to bring in the Walled City and such. But that's another thread that I'll likely put over in the SR4 forum because Kowloon Walled City and HK is detailed in Runners Havens. |
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Oct 23 2006, 10:54 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 749 Joined: 28-July 05 Member No.: 7,526 |
I hear hong kong phone books are notorious for their number of chins...
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Oct 23 2006, 11:49 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,174 Joined: 13-May 04 From: UCAS Member No.: 6,327 |
And US phone books are notorious for Smiths.
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Oct 28 2006, 03:39 AM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,577 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gwynedd Valley PA Member No.: 1,221 |
Go to international sporting events. Like the Olympics or owrld cup that will give long lists of names of people from countries with authentic names.
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Oct 28 2006, 03:53 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 276 Joined: 29-September 02 Member No.: 3,348 |
The Feng Shui name generator:
http://www.ruf.rice.edu/~pound/fsnames.html 250 names, updated every 15 minutes. Don't leave Hong Kong without it. :D |
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Oct 29 2006, 11:08 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 82 Joined: 21-September 06 Member No.: 9,450 |
I just came back from Hong Kong today.
I got a few maps, I can scan them if you want to and send them to you. I didn't understand why Hong Kong would be a Runner Haven. Now, I know. I went to Kowloon, I was there yesterday afternoon. The main street is called "Nathan Road". It's the touristy street. The back alleys of Nathan road is where everything is "happening" so to speak. Drugs, prostitution (saw a guy leaving with two malaysian girls), you name it. Other main street names: Canton road Kowloon Park Drive Salisbury Road As for the names: Chinese use their last name first and their given name second. Popular family name: Li Zhang Zhuang Zheng Wang Tang He Given names: Lin (girl) Hui (girl, boy) depending on how it's pronounced, Hui can be name either for male or a female Ai (love) Dan (girl) Ke Han (girl) Gang (Boy) |
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Oct 29 2006, 04:14 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,078 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 67 |
Nathan Road can really run the spectrum. I put it in Runner Havens for that reason, on page 22. Also, I think if you could put some maps online, that would be great! |
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Oct 29 2006, 08:34 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,718 Joined: 14-September 02 Member No.: 3,263 |
Some more nice suggestions, thanks.
I checked with CAA (local wing of the AAA) and they didn't have any Hong Kong roadmaps, however get them to me and I'll find some way to share the love (I assume you setting up a site of your own from China might be tricky). I'll keep looking, but haven't found anything nice yet. I'm still working on putting together something decent from Google Earth. Their satelite pics for that part of the world aren't that good, and GE has got this weird focus issue where stuff away from the center of your view can go fuzzy. |
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Oct 30 2006, 02:21 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 82 Joined: 21-September 06 Member No.: 9,450 |
Ok. I'll see what I can do.
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Oct 30 2006, 04:06 AM
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Canon Companion Group: Members Posts: 8,021 Joined: 2-March 03 From: The Morgue, Singapore LTG Member No.: 4,187 |
Family names aren't popular - you are stuck with what you've got. There are common family names and uncommon ones.
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Oct 30 2006, 10:53 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,174 Joined: 13-May 04 From: UCAS Member No.: 6,327 |
An interesting thing is the ones with the 'z' spellings can easily denote if one is from the mainland and you can figure out between those who have been living in HK for generations. It's the whole Wades-Giles or another romanization versus the Pinyin romanization that the chinese goverment adopted. There's a difference also since in HK, any romanization would have been using the cantonese language. So last names would sound different than the mandarin romanization. It's something I'm pointing out because you can figure out where someone is from the area or not at least at this point in time since HK has only been recently (less than 10 years) in reuniting with China. And as toturi said, it's not popular, it's common or not. Families have to breed to get more of those with the last names... :-P |
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