 "Paris Syndrome" leaves Japanese, This is how it would be for wageslaves? |
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 Nov 1 2006, 04:38 PM
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Manus Celer Dei  Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,013 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802  |
I haven't experienced anything like the fabled Parisian rudeness any of the times I've been there, but I can definitely agree to the craziness of the drivers (though it's still better than Italy!). Fortunately, my days dodging Bostonian drivers left me adequately prepared for everything but a certain triumphal monument, which thankfully doesn't need to be tangled with anyway.
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Nov 1 2006, 05:07 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 66 Joined: 5-September 06 Member No.: 9,305 |
Ha, been to Italy - yes, drivers are crazy, but try Greece. My cab driver was going 120 or 130 mph on the freeway, weaving in and out of cars. When I was driving myself and stopped at a stoplight, I got honked at by everybody behind me. And motorcycles have the right-of-way. Always, no matter how illegal what they're doing is. I personally think that the stereotypes against French people is just the American way of rebutting percieved French stereotypes of Americans. Plus the Americans are pissed that they generally won't speak English to you. |
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Nov 1 2006, 05:18 PM
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Bushido Cowgirl Group: Members Posts: 5,782 Joined: 8-July 05 From: On the Double K Ranch a half day's ride out of Phlogiston Flats Member No.: 7,490 |
...sounds a lot like Portland OR. Also drivers here don't seem to know what that little lever on the steering column is for, y'know, the one that makes these lights blink to tell people which way you are turning. I think when they see those lights flashing on their instrument panel they believe is something wrong with the motor... ...that is when they aren't on their cell phone and actually paying attention. |
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Nov 1 2006, 05:29 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 66 Joined: 5-September 06 Member No.: 9,305 |
I don't even think they exist in most other countries around the world. Never saw them once in Greece, or Mexico, or Colombia, or any of the other countries I've been to. Just didn't happen. |
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Nov 1 2006, 05:54 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,150 Joined: 19-December 05 From: Rhein-Ruhr Megaplex Member No.: 8,081 |
Now, that is a typically american view. |
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Nov 1 2006, 05:58 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 66 Joined: 5-September 06 Member No.: 9,305 |
...That's what I was implying. Sorry if you missed that. I said 'percieved French stereotypes.' The idea was that Americans think that the French hate them, and so they've decided that they're going to hate the French too. And about the language-speaking thing, I personally think it's stupid to go to another country and expect them to speak your language. Whenever I visit another country I try to learn their language, at least a little, in an attempt to be respectful. |
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Nov 1 2006, 05:59 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,013 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
I never saw any crazy driving while I was in Greece (I spent most of my time away from major roads), but I do remember the clusters of memorials at pretty much every significant turn in the road (for reference, these memorials are put up for the sites of fatal crashes, and IIRC it isn't customary to put up more than one for a given person). Godaime: I'd say the other way around, myself. ~J |
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Nov 1 2006, 06:04 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 66 Joined: 5-September 06 Member No.: 9,305 |
Quite possible. However, I have little knowledge of the French - and I grew up in a typical American family, where the French are the 'scum of the earth' because they 'hate America.' According to my father, at least. So from that, I assumed that it must be that way for most American families - they hate the French because they think the French hate America. |
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Nov 1 2006, 06:24 PM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
It isn't just you. Montreal is pretty much as you say ... with the rest of Quebec being quite a bit better (big statement from an Leafs fan! ;) ). In fact, the Quebec province's parallel to France is quite interesting. |
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Nov 1 2006, 06:33 PM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
Well, that's kinda what stereotypes are for. ;) Seriously though, I'm not meaning to give offence. All I have to go on are my 7 visits to Paris, and quite a bit of world travelling for comparison. :) |
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Nov 1 2006, 06:50 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,150 Joined: 19-December 05 From: Rhein-Ruhr Megaplex Member No.: 8,081 |
I think you missed my point ;). To imply that the stereotypical french arrogance is created by the way the french sees americans is pretty ridiculous. That prejudiced view is pretty common in europe. What I was pointing at was the self centered view of some americans. Also, I don't think the french in general hate america - that would be news to me. On another note, after visting Austria, Belgium, Denmark, France, Holland, Portugal, Spain (and some of the smaller countries), the most friendly people I met were the Dutch and the Portugese. Somehow I never made it to Italy, Switzerland or the UK, or the now accessible former Warsaw Pact States. |
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Nov 1 2006, 06:53 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 66 Joined: 5-September 06 Member No.: 9,305 |
Heh, sorry, it seems I most certainly did. |
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Nov 1 2006, 07:13 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,013 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
I think US citizens hate the French because there's a secret longing to still be spelling words like "colour" and "characterise" correctly. Had it not been for the French, we would be linguistically pure ;)
~J |
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Nov 1 2006, 07:19 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,579 Joined: 30-May 06 From: SoCal Member No.: 8,626 |
I always thought it was the accents personally. Now go away or I shall taunt you again, you silly English Ki...nigits! |
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Nov 1 2006, 07:30 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,150 Joined: 19-December 05 From: Rhein-Ruhr Megaplex Member No.: 8,081 |
Whats wrong with colour or armour ? :grinbig:
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Nov 1 2006, 07:46 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,013 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
They're spelled correctly, as opposed to having letters missing for no particular reason.
~J |
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Nov 1 2006, 10:11 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,577 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gwynedd Valley PA Member No.: 1,221 |
nah, the Brits still put needless 'u's in their words. |
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Nov 1 2006, 11:07 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 66 Joined: 5-September 06 Member No.: 9,305 |
Don't forget the Canadians! |
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Nov 1 2006, 11:17 PM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
And the Australians. ;) At least the Canadians teach both versions in many schools. |
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Nov 2 2006, 01:12 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 903 Joined: 7-February 03 Member No.: 4,025 |
I only make a point of it when I'm trying to write "properly." When I'm writing my own notes, those U's come and go.
And I say "eh" a lot. But I don't hear the difference in words like "mouth," "south" and "about". But to try to bring this back on topic, or at least back to SR relevance: Are there any new in-game stereotypes that anyone has come up with? Do folks from the UCAS have conversations like this about CASsies? Seattleites? (...and I'm praying that this does not turn into RL bashing...) |
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Nov 2 2006, 02:38 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,577 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gwynedd Valley PA Member No.: 1,221 |
I expect the nick names steroetypes between UCAS and CAS would be similar to RL terms today between north and south. Aztlan would probably get the ugly hispanic terms, getting really ugly in CAS.
California? hmm. as an east coast girl we view it a the land of breakfast cereals- "full of fruits, nuts and flakes" but who knows if it would still be like that with CFS. |
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Nov 3 2006, 01:26 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 132 Joined: 24-August 05 From: Luxembourg, Luxembourg Member No.: 7,611 |
This made me laugh so loud everyone around me stopped (at work). Cali is indeed the great land of breakfast cereal. Unfortunately they're all imported. Back on topic, kinda, almost. I think I'm on the same conspiracy list as WR. Paris seemed full of nice people. Didn't get run over. Asked for directions and had a guy find someone who spoke English for me. Great night life. Either it's a conspiracy or people have pity for the really dumb looking clueless tourist (me). To the original post, I wonder what happens to the Parisians when they go to Japan? Are they freaked out by the niceness? Do they freak out the Japanese? Or is it more of a "when in Rome" thing? |
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Nov 4 2006, 03:34 AM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,577 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gwynedd Valley PA Member No.: 1,221 |
As a group in rl today, Japanese are xenophobic and racist. on vacation or business outside Japan they open up a bit but back in Japan culture is strickly regulated and the nail that sticks out is hammered back into place.
If you don't speak japanese you are screwed. Now there can be and are exceptions but that is the general rule of thumb. For my sources my best friend is Japanese-American, I have two more friends, both white, who are in Japan teaching english. |
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Nov 5 2006, 02:02 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 903 Joined: 7-February 03 Member No.: 4,025 |
You could probably substitute all kinds of nationalities in there and still be accurate. A flaw of human nature, I suppose. |
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Nov 5 2006, 03:34 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,013 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Indeed, though the fact that Japan is not a melting pot and is largely single-ethnicity means there's simply no hope of just "blending in" for pretty much any outsider—you wear your outsider status emblazoned on your skin. Contrast that with, say, the US, where if you dress right no one can tell you aren't from here on sight.
Usual caveat about posting-while-mostly-asleep goes here. ~J |
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