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post Oct 30 2006, 10:04 PM
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AR is where it's at for fashion. If I so desired, I could program it that anyone looking at me sees exactly what I want them to see based on their profile / who they are? Prostitutes wearing clothes that cater to particular fetishes, which those with the appropriate fetish can see, or even skimpier clothes for those who have better credit ratings. Nightclubs where every room changes what everyone looks like. In the AR, I wear what I want. Oh you can't see it? Then you obviously have last years designs still plugged in.
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post Oct 30 2006, 10:26 PM
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Even though I'm not a huge fan of AR, that has to be one of the most interesting suggestions for its use that I've ever seen.
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post Oct 30 2006, 11:48 PM
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I agree, SURGE too is a big one to mention. What happened to it? How has it changed the world since the comet?
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post Oct 31 2006, 01:34 AM
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I agree, SURGE too is a big one to mention. What happened to it? How has it changed the world since the comet?

We should take a poll about SURGE sometime. In the result I'd like to see, the effects lasted for a year-ish after the Comet passed (if that long) then went away. Note that the in-game run at teh beginning of the book has a Troll who was a normal human and then Goblinized due to the comet... It isn't unprecedented to Goblinize later in life, and a big mana surge like teh comet coul dhave done it, but is it a comet effect (SURGE) or a 'mana hit a threshhold' level, like normal Goblinization was?

Luckily, it can go either way.

-- Wak, in the "No SURGE please," camp.
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post Oct 31 2006, 03:50 PM
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Festivals and party culture would be a cool topic to cover. IE: the grand ball in england, Carnival and Cinco de Mayo.

The Olympics making a comeback in Seattle (Denver or Chicago) would be interesting. Baseball breaking the metahuman barrier?

The list for opportunities goes on but pary culture would be another issue to address in a SOTA 70'
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post Oct 31 2006, 10:53 PM
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QUOTE (Wakshaani)
QUOTE (ChicagosFineset @ Oct 30 2006, 11:48 PM)
I agree, SURGE too is a big one to mention.  What happened to it? How has it changed the world since the comet?

We should take a poll about SURGE sometime. In the result I'd like to see, the effects lasted for a year-ish after the Comet passed (if that long) then went away. Note that the in-game run at teh beginning of the book has a Troll who was a normal human and then Goblinized due to the comet... It isn't unprecedented to Goblinize later in life, and a big mana surge like teh comet coul dhave done it, but is it a comet effect (SURGE) or a 'mana hit a threshhold' level, like normal Goblinization was?

Luckily, it can go either way.

-- Wak, in the "No SURGE please," camp.

Hey I like SURGE, it allows me to play all the odd characters I've always wanted legitimately. Of course that never stopped me before. :D
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post Oct 31 2006, 10:56 PM
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Sure you could do that, but you wouldn't, for all the same reasons you don't run up to a celebrity and try to tear their clothes off, no matter how flimsy their garments.

Except you don't have to run anywhere. Beer in one hand, binoculars in the other. Soon there's one less spirit around and nobody's the wiser who did it.

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post Oct 31 2006, 11:04 PM
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Might be the guy with a beer and binoculars who was prepared to see something. :D
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post Nov 1 2006, 07:24 PM
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QUOTE (ChicagosFineset)
The Olympics making a comeback in Seattle (Denver or Chicago) would be interesting.

IIRC, Runner Havens mentions that Seattle Metroplex and Salish-Shidhe Council are to host the 2074 Summer Games together.
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post Nov 1 2006, 07:26 PM
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What about a free spirt clothing/ fashion desinger. How would that look in the T6W?

In Street Magic an Animus Free Spirit is mentioned who actually works as a sculptor. It seems his works are well sought-after and quite expensive...
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post Nov 1 2006, 07:27 PM
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QUOTE (M¥$T1C)
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What about a free spirt clothing/ fashion desinger.  How would that look in the T6W?

In Street Magic an Animus Free Spirit is mentioned who actually works as a sculptor. It seems his works are well sought-after and quite expensive...

I'll shut up then. Great moment for the awakened world I'm sure it will measue how far we have come :-)
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post Nov 1 2006, 09:40 PM
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QUOTE (ChicagosFineset)
Festivals and party culture would be a cool topic to cover.  IE: the grand ball in england,

...ahh, the "Season" as it is called. Actually ran a fluff role play session which took place at one of the balls (The Grande Estate Ball to be exact which was Leela's "Coming Out").

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Baseball breaking the metahuman barrier?

I thought it did. In Shadowbeat there is a picture of an Orc in uniform holding a bat and the Tir Taringire also has a team - The Portland Lords - which no doubt has only elves on its roster.
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post Nov 1 2006, 09:48 PM
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Though there is no supposed metahuman barrier in MLB, only Orcs, Elves and Humans are allowed on the teams' rosters. Trolls and Dwarves have their own professional leagues.
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post Nov 1 2006, 10:04 PM
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>>>>>[Well of course they do. Everybody knows that it's just not fair that a Troll's strike zone is so big and a Dwarf's is too small. It's not racism, it's just keeping unfair advantages from occurring in the MLB.]<<<<<
- Pitcher 16:04:21/11-01-70
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post Nov 1 2006, 10:48 PM
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>>>>>[Besides - think of the amount of juice an elf would have to take to get to the baseline of a troll? And legs like that, trolls would have to have bases twice as far! Besides, no one wants to see giant green scaly buggers ruinin' the good ol' MLB....]<<<<<
- Southern_Cross 19:23:23/11-01-70
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post Nov 2 2006, 12:13 AM
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LOL so I stand corrected by many people its been a while since shadowbeat
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post Nov 2 2006, 12:49 AM
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If ever an old sourcebook needed a new release, Shadowbeat is it.

When's the last time anyone in *your* game played a reporter, rabble-rouser, or professional musician?
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post Nov 2 2006, 01:39 AM
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QUOTE (Wakshaani)
If ever an old sourcebook needed a new release, Shadowbeat is it.

When's the last time anyone in *your* game played a reporter, rabble-rouser, or professional musician?

Some people don't want to play someone who is in legit work. Its hard to justify being on a shadowrun when you're a reporter. Others are unaware of the fact that wired 2 and smartlinked submachine guns are standard issue for on-air personalities.
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post Nov 2 2006, 01:47 AM
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QUOTE (Wakshaani)
If ever an old sourcebook needed a new release, Shadowbeat is it.

When's the last time anyone in *your* game played a reporter, rabble-rouser, or professional musician?

...I second that.

My last Shadowbeat based Character (and one of my personal favourites) was Lana Lane Ace Reporter (SR3). Our GM used the Shadowbeat rules for Pix & Punch as written.

For Leela, we made Music Performance an active instead of knowledge skill (since it was technically her real profession) and followed the guidelines for performance impact. Her debut concert rating at New Festival Hall in London was 98, placing it at "Novastar" level (in the classical sense of course). Seing that she could make a very comfortable living concertising and recording (without having someone shooting at her cute little butt all the time), she retired from shadowrunning and eventually went on to become Europe's hottest classical keyboard artist.
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post Nov 2 2006, 04:03 PM
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QUOTE (hyzmarca)
QUOTE (Wakshaani @ Nov 1 2006, 07:49 PM)
If ever an old sourcebook needed a new release, Shadowbeat is it.

When's the last time anyone in *your* game played a reporter, rabble-rouser, or professional musician?

Some people don't want to play someone who is in legit work. Its hard to justify being on a shadowrun when you're a reporter. Others are unaware of the fact that wired 2 and smartlinked submachine guns are standard issue for on-air personalities.

...a reporter can make an excellent Face, she is usually set up to do better research and legwork, often has really useful contacts, and often able to gain to hard to enter areas for recon without making a scene.

A reporter (as I proved with Lana Lane) can be a valuable asset to a runner team.

Of course, they still need a little edge in the way of speed just to keep up & at least be able to shoot a gun if necessary.
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post Nov 2 2006, 04:18 PM
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One thing I'm verry currious about and think would be worth while to see in SR culture is protest music and media. I think it would be something cool to see if i third world nation staged an earth shattering coup through protest music and cinema (think Cuba, Jamacia, USA during the 60's and 70's, along with revolutionary artists like Lennon, Hendrix, Marley and even throw a little Parliment in there for shits and giggles).

Who would become big name performers of music? How would a leader present documentary sims to the masses that show the tyrany of the big corps without selling out his integrity. What groups would back the movement? Where would this take place? Would the revolution work? Better yet would it last (those wacky elves have gotten the biz handed to them) or would there be tibetian massacares like the asian kid ran over by the tank?

Man the possibilties are endless with a metaplot sceme like that at the attention of everyone in the 6th world. My suggestion of places where it could manifest, Africa (the only continent that has never gotten a SB but has been mentioned more and more over the years). Plus something like this could take SR back to the roots of 1st and 2nd ed. Make things grittier and cyber punk again instead of awakened and cutting edge.

Edit: BTW that could be included in a new shadowbeat, I to agree that a reporter would be a smooth face character. I would love to see rocker come back the last one I heard of was "Crime time" (I would love to meet the guy who came up with him i got ?'s to ask)

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post Nov 2 2006, 04:30 PM
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I was bemoaning the loss of the Rockerboi a couple weeks ago.

Bring back Shadowbeat!!
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post Nov 2 2006, 06:26 PM
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I was bemoaning the loss of the Rockerboi a couple weeks ago.

Bring back Shadowbeat!!

On the one side, you have prefab musical groups pushed out of corporate enclaves ala Disney artists (Which, I suppose, means that Aztechnology is behind most of teh prefab bands in 2070 ... does there evil know no bounds?!) and teh 'edgy' corporate bands who are just as manufactured, but hide it somewhat better. (Screw those boy bands, I'm listening to this edgey alternative band! Wooo, I'm free of manipulative shackles!)

On the other are the underground artists (Who quietly want to sell out but never admit to it) and the handful of big artists who survived the dispoable 'Idoru' culture and came out as actual stars. That a runner could very well say "Mercurial? Aw man, that was before I was born!" should show that we're due for a few new bands at this stage. :)

Of course, there's bound to be a 'Pornomancer' style musician or three in bidness by now. And that... is kind of terrifying.
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post Nov 2 2006, 07:45 PM
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I was bemoaning the loss of the Rockerboi a couple weeks ago.

What loss? If you want them, you can have them. You don't need a badly-designed Archetype in order to include them in your games.

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I agree. Just leave out those inane rules. :D
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post Nov 2 2006, 07:54 PM
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QUOTE (Fortune)
QUOTE (lorechaser @ Nov 3 2006, 03:30 AM)
I was bemoaning the loss of the Rockerboi a couple weeks ago.

What loss? If you want them, you can have them. You don't need a badly-designed Archetype in order to include them in your games.

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I agree. Just leave out those inane rules. :D

Yeah, but if they aren't in the sample characters, no one is gonna think to play them except oldschool fools. ;)

I mean, really, that's not a concept a sane person comes up with and tries to play, without prompting.
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