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 Nov 3 2006, 05:28 PM
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Shooting Target  Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,755 Joined: 5-September 06 From: UCAS Member No.: 9,313  |
Used to be enough of difference in domains of spirits and time a spirit would serve to really set the hermetic apart from a mentor spirit class, now seems not picking mentor sprit is downside for a mage. Been considering to leave elementals conjured by hermetics to last 24 hours as opposed to 12 (till next sunset or sunrise). This doesnt seem to overpowering of houserule.
As always curious for some input, thanks. |
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Nov 3 2006, 05:34 PM
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Genuine Artificial Intelligence Group: Members Posts: 4,019 Joined: 12-June 03 Member No.: 4,715 |
Honestly, I don't think that would change much. Mentor spirits cost BP. Precious, precious, positive quality buildpoints. By that, I mean that they count against the 35 BP limit on positive qualities. That makes mentor spirit self-balancing, in my opinion.
Are you having a problem with no one playing Hermetics, or is this just a problem that you anticipate? |
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Nov 3 2006, 05:37 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,755 Joined: 5-September 06 From: UCAS Member No.: 9,313 |
Guess just flavor issue, so far all players have gone mentor spirit route and in previous versions of game always was hermetics heavey due to nature spirit domain rules.
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Nov 3 2006, 05:47 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,598 Joined: 24-May 03 Member No.: 4,629 |
Also note that Hermetics darn sure *can* take mentors, if they feel the want. The might not see them in the same light, and aren't as likely to take, say, Rat or Dog, but they still have options. Quite fond of Fire Bringer myself. Mentors in this style tend to be more philosophies/approaches, rather than Shamantic masks. A Fire Bringer might want to bring magic down from the hands of the corps and Tirs, to share the knowledge with Metahumanity as a whole. A Dark Seductress can just be some Hermetic who slept her way to staight 'A's in college, and now works with illusions (Hey, SOMEBODY had to invent teh Orgasm spell!) ... so on and so forth.
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Nov 3 2006, 05:49 PM
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Genuine Artificial Intelligence Group: Members Posts: 4,019 Joined: 12-June 03 Member No.: 4,715 |
Yeah, Wakshaani, technically I know that is true. Some stubborn part of my brain still wants to reject the idea, though. I do like the way you described Hermetic mentors, though, that might help bring me around.
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Nov 3 2006, 07:24 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 588 Joined: 27-February 06 Member No.: 8,316 |
personally, I kinda like that all the magical traditions are the same now (i.e. they all follow the same rules.) I always thought the hermetics were over powered compared to shamans since hermetics got the flock of elementals.
I also like that hermetics can now take mentor spirits or totems or whatever you want to call them. If you want to make a house rule that everyone without a mentor spirit has spirits that last 24 hours instead of 12 that's great, but singling out hermetics just because that's how it was done in past editins doesn't seem to make alot of sense to me; but hey it's your house rule, do what you want. |
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Nov 3 2006, 09:10 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 749 Joined: 28-July 05 Member No.: 7,526 |
the BP cost is pretty significant. not in its value, per se, but it does mean that a full magician (15 BP) with a mentor spirit (5 BP) cannot take any exceptional attribute qualities (20 BP).
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Nov 3 2006, 09:23 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,150 Joined: 19-December 05 From: Rhein-Ruhr Megaplex Member No.: 8,081 |
I think most people can live without exceptional attributes :D.
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Nov 3 2006, 09:35 PM
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Midnight Toker Group: Members Posts: 7,686 Joined: 4-July 04 From: Zombie Drop Bear Santa's Workshop Member No.: 6,456 |
I always imagined that Orgasm was invented by someone suffering from from two badly sprained wrists. :D Heck, a hermetic can even be a bugger now days, or a toxic, too. UMT, woot. |
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Nov 3 2006, 09:39 PM
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Bushido Cowgirl Group: Members Posts: 5,782 Joined: 8-July 05 From: On the Double K Ranch a half day's ride out of Phlogiston Flats Member No.: 7,490 |
...agreed. In one campaign several years ago, I had to deal with no less than three hermetics (all elves with maxxed Charisma, two of them with Increase Attribute 4: Charisma on a spell lock). Combats usually took on more the flavour of a pitched battlefield scene instead of the typical "Saturday Night Firefight." Got pretty exhausting after a while. |
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Nov 3 2006, 10:22 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 226 Joined: 5-April 03 Member No.: 4,388 |
As soon as the shaman gets Invoking, he can have his gang, too. Then the battles usually looked like naptime, as the spirits used their confusion power on the opposition.
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Nov 3 2006, 10:58 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,598 Joined: 24-May 03 Member No.: 4,629 |
Had one fellow who wanted to put together a Jedi tradition (Willpower + Intuition), who had a Mentor spirit that was, in essence, Yoda. Fought with a Monowhip, since it was teh cloest thing to a lightsabre that he could see. ... Long story. |
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